Nvidia's GTX 1080 is Much More Powerful Than a Titan, $400 Less

[Strazdas]

Please mate, I know what I am talking about.

The difference between my custom High-Ultra settings and pure ultra is ... almost impossible for me to see. No matter the display.

Even a custom Med-High-Ultra settings on Witcher 3 can almost never be told apart from pure Ultra. We reached that point.

Well i dont know about your ability to see the difference but i know that i can tell the difference. Your claims here sounds as ridiculous as the people claiming they dont see a difference between 30 and 60 fps.

Also, you are forgetting that Pascal has lower IPC compared to Maxwell and that Nvidia's architecture does not scale linearly.

Can you give me a source for that? I havent heard anything about Pascal IPC but it would be relaly odd if they made it lower.... and quite unprecedented.

So before anyone goes blowing their wad over a $600 GPU keep in mind that the GTX 260 and 280 saw HUGE price cuts within weeks of their release after the 4850/4870 were nearly as fast for a lot less money. We may see this same scenario play out shortly here.

Of course waiting to see what Polaris is going to bring is smart but i really doubt its going to have as much impact here as it did back then.

Paying an extra $100 for the "Founder's Edition" AKA reference cards that will be inferior to the cheaper, better cooled AIB cards released a couple of months later...just a taste of Nvidia monopoly. PC gaming (and next gen consoles come to think of it) might get a lot more expensive over the next few years...

Worth noting that AMD is doing the chips for both consoles this time around so Nvidia raising prices will not raise console prices. Though from what i gather AMD is really not making any profit on the console chips.

 

[Strazdas]

You can not. I am certain of it. It is not ridiculous, this is not like the difference between 30 and 60 or Low settings and Ultra settings. This is custom/High vs Ultra.

Even this youtube (that I generally like truth be told, but is imperfect) thinks so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmsoIIMGZ00
*He gives some screenshots and compares some things, so you can watch him. I have no ready screenshots.

Do the math for the IPC. You are one of the few people that can do that here, though it ain't hard.

Youtube is useless for comparison because of video compression. Games have went way past the level of detail where compression can be ignored. Many gaming youtubers are really angry at youtube now because the codecs are freaking out trying to determine which detail to keep and ending up with horrible visuals.

A stock 980 has 4210 instructions per clock.
A stock 1080 supposedly has 5319 instructions per clock. What am i missing?

 

[flying_whimsy]

Wow, so much bickering in this thread. I'm just running a 950, but I do plan to upgrade when I have some real money I can drop on two (better) cards to run sli. In the meantime, though, I haven't come across much my rig can't handle at this point.

Since I only run 1080p for my displays, there simply isn't much reason for me to go for anything so extreme as what the high end stuff does (that wouldn't be better spent on a 4k or 3d monitor). I'm curious to see what the real benchmarks for this new wunderkind ends up being and how amd will respond, but I don't see a point in getting excited either way.

Even as a fairly high end pc user and hardcore gamer, I just don't understand the need for always being right at the cutting edge of new releases. Too much money for things that are obsolete before you even open the box.

 

[JUMBO PALACE]

Fucking hell. I JUST bought a GTX 960 for just under $AU300 because my Radeon HD 6950 died. Why does nothing to do with computers ever pan out for me simply?

Well, Pascal and Polaris/Vega were hyped for months.

Though the actual choice of GPU within that price range aint great either mate.

Yeah. It's on me, but I don't really keep up with hardware news. Actually, all my gaming-related news comes from here.
I'm not really upset about buying another card too early. I'm happy with my GTX 960. It's definitely better than my HD 6950 (especially since that one doesn't display video anymore). It was more more of a superfluous outrage.

Also, would knowing that these cards are coming out made you think that differently anyway? A 960 and a 1080 are hardly in the same price range. Unless you mean you would have waited for the 1060 I think you made an alright decision.

 

[Creator002]

Also, would knowing that these cards are coming out made you think that differently anyway?

Probably not. Lol. LIke I said, I wasn't really angry. I just thought it was good timing that a new card was coming out after having just bought one. Then again, that's the norm when it comes to PC gaming. You get a new part and 2 hours later it's obsolete.