Obama

[captain awesome 12]

Woah woah woah there captain awesome. The campaign is over. Obama won. The fight was well fought but you can get off your soap box and go home now.

So, Bush can be bashed for almost his entire term? But Obama, woah woah woah. No "soap box" and go home now. Obama should and will get the exact same scrutiny. He is an elected official just the same. And will be under the very same microscope (not by the media, of course).

Anyways, I have no doubts that Obama will be a great president.

Of course not. Anyone who uses Bob The Builder's "Can We Fix It? Yes We Can!" line as his mantra, has GREAT written all over him.

Certainly his term will probably never equal the theatrics of his campaign, but political theatrics is not what America needs right now

Apparently it is. That's how he got elected.

and watch a real leader get things done.

A real leader? Yes, because he's proven himself as such an immaculate leader in the past. Oh wait, he hasn't led anything.

Change Hope Hope Change Cha Cha Cha. What is change? He is all about change. His numbers change. His tune changes. And he's not even in office yet.

As is, no warranty. Used car salesman at its finest. And you want to talk about Kool-Aid? Really??? After the American Idol election?!?!?!?!?

For the sake of the country, I hope he can turn things, around. I really do. But I don't trust any of them. It's time all politicians, regardless of what their little (d) or (r) or whatever is by their name - are scrutinized and held accountable. To what they say, and what they were elected to do. I'm tired of the blame games, and the gridlock, finger pointing, and political posturing. FIX IT, or GET OUT.

Basically this is what I've been meaning to say.

 

[geldonyetich]

Basically this is what I've been meaning to say.

What, the whole thing? If so, it sort of leads to, "Who is more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?"

 

[Aiden Rebirth]

I have hope for a better tomorrow, but there will prolly be a terror attack to start his term, like with bush and clinton, and there is high probability he will get assassinated.

 

[Kyuumi]

I am so glad Obama is going to be President, I am going to watch it when it happens.

 

[Frater Perdurabo]

Yes, because a man with his incredible amount of experience is just what we need in the economic crisis. Yes, because a man taught by Communists is the right choice in a Capitalist based society. Yes, because a man that cannot think for himself, that must be in front of a TelePrompTer at all times has the ingenuity, intelligence and ability to lead us. Yes, because a man that thinks there are 57 states is the exact role model for young people. Yes, because the "change we need" is the reinstitution of the cabinet and policies of the Clinton Era. Yes, because a man that doesn't even realize that he's the most powerful man in the world is holding the keys to our future. Yes, because since his campaign was so good he absolutely cannot fail. Yes, because a man with such little grip upon world issues is the right man for the job. I could keep going, but I don't feel the need to. Wait I've got another more. Yes, the Community Organizer from Chicago with connections to terrorists and slum crime lords, that has less time in the Senate that I do with playing Halo 3 is a much better choice than the decorated war hero whose faced the darkest of times and come through with honor and humility, and who has spent an incredible amount of time serving this country. A man who's only criticisms were that he was "old" "just like Bush" (which isn't true at all, merely left wing propaganda) and "can't use a computer" (because the injuries sustained during the five years he spent in hell in a Vietnamese prison camp with his fellow men have rendered him unable to use a keyboard.)
I hope that Obama is the greatest president ever, but I know he won't be. His policies have been proven time and time again to be failures, what policies he has ever expressed. He lacks the understanding, the humility, the experience, the courage, the temperance, the morality, the honesty, and the character to succeed. While I believe that Obama may very well be a "smart" man, a good father, and a charismatic speaker (when he's been told what to say) he was not the right man for this office.

Don't get me started on Socialized Medicine. When you break down the people that don't have healthcare very few actually cannot afford it. A 1/5 or so are illegal immigrants, nearly half are those who willfully refuse it because of a feeling of "immortality" due to young age. Another part of the demographic are people that are so incredibly wealthy they don't need it. And if people can't afford it but still need an operation or are sick they do not have to pay. Why do you think so many Canadians come to the U.S. to have surgery? Socialized healthcare adds a massive amount of patients at one time, causing overcrowding, and long waiting lines. Substandard hospitals, poorly equipped facilities, and doctors that are underpaid spawn out of it. By the way, the massive tax increase that comes along with all of this means it isn't fee anyway, you just get around 26 billion extra in money paid to the government.

Obama isn't the solution. Bush strengthened our defense, but did little on the home front because of his massive spending. However, Obama's policies are no different, the first thing he wants is a trillion dollar bailout! There are a number of ways to accomplish this. One, print more money, inflation rises. Two, tax more, you voted for this guy people. Three, go farther in debt to ourselves. I'm sorry, but I cannot put faith in this man.

Sources: http://www.cato.org/pubs/catosletter/catosletterv3n1.pdf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

Easy on the Cool Aid Captain. Next time you write something read it before you post it. Bush Stregthened your defenses??? For god's sake he waged wars with non existent enemies and streched thn your troops. You need one more battlefield for your warmachine to collapse.

About the tax thing you mentioned. I wont speak about your 13 trillion external debt that you as a country have thanks to Bush neither for the gifts of 20 billion Dollars in military equipment you give to Israel every Year.

And about the age thing you mentioned, Your country needs a president young enough that wont die of old age during his first term and will also be able to understand the young people of your country cause their the future.

Also it is costume to wait for the man to die before you bury him. but history showed us that you are ok to have a corpse controlled by FED run your country.

By strengthened our defenses I meant that despite numerous terrorist attacks on other countries after 911 the United States was not hit again. If you think it wasn't because terrorists didn't try you've got to be crazy, it's common sense they'd want to try and launch more strikes. I do believe that it's because of the Patriot Act that many attacks were stopped, whether small scale or large scale. Make all the accusations you want about "civil rights violations" but really, it worked. If you bothered to read my post you'd have noticed that I criticized Bush's massive spending, but a man that wants to come in and spend even more won't improve this.

In all honesty, is it the young people of this country that need to be understood, or the rest of the world and the country in which he will run? Personally, as a young person I am drawn to the war hero/patriot/servant of his country over the marijuana-smoking, community organizer that abstained from voting 44% of the time. McCain is in no way feebleminded, and in no way close to death, so I highly doubt that he'd die in the next four years.

I also take extreme offense to be called a Cool-Aid drinker. I think Cool-Aid is a delicious beverage that all people should enjoy. On a more serious note, the people who voted for a man who ran around yelling "Change! Change! Change!" drink far more Cool-Aid than me.

WHAT? You support the patriot Act? are you blind? they turned you from a free nation to an oligarchy overnight with this piece of toilet paper. Oh and if you still believe that 9/11 wasnt funded by CIA and that the planes wherent decoys to hide they remote demolitions of the two towers i have one think two say. WAKE UP. open your eyes. Search for your self. And another think. If you are so convinced that 9/11 attacks was the job of osama bin laden and his lot why is it that in the OFFICIAL site of F.B.I with the mst wanted men in the world under Osama profile it says nothing about the 9/11 attacks? By the way is better to yell CHANGE all the time than declare do go to war with Iran when you get elected. That s right i am talking about your buddy Mccain. Its not your fault. i Presume you live in the states thats why you have so few intelligence on the matter of who is doing what in your country. Dont be offended by my post's i am Greek and we used to speak the truth. Or lie damn well about it. unlike your current administration.
And on a humorous note i dont know what Cool-aid tastes like. Its just the phrase is spot-on to your previously written misguided beliefs.

My father watched from across the Hudson river through binoculars as those planes hit the towers. He was there, he saw them. I was recently listening to a man who was inside the fucking tower when the plane hit the floor below him; he looked out the window and saw it flying right at him. His escape was a miracle that would take too long to explain in detail. Don't you dare try and force conspiracy theories down my throat when I know people that died that day. Don't you dare try and insult my intelligence and tell me that the phone calls from people on those flights to their loved ones were fake. Stop with your idiotic conspiracy theories, they don't work, I don't believe them, you aren't doing yourself any good believing them. McCain never stated that he was going to go to war with Iran, where's your source by the way? Why don't you open up your own eyes and stop trying to make excuses for people who's very beliefs center on killing you. Stop trying to act intelligent by inventing these theories, you aren't cool because you think it was an elaborate plot to go to war for some unknown reason because George Bush must be bad. Or whatever it is you believe.
As for the Patriot Act, I have no problem with my telephone calls being tapped if I know it will keep me safe. I have no problem with proving my citizenship or having to wait in line at a security checkpoint if it means the freedoms I enjoy will be preserved. Since you're a foreigner, why do you care about what happens in this country? Why do you care what laws or acts are passed? Why do you care if we go to war with a genocidal, maniacal dictator? I find it funny that you're Greek, since you're country has so much history based on going to war in protection of the homeland. I also find it incredibly hard to believe that despite the threats, statements, acts of violence, killings, suicide bombings, and murders that radical Muslim extremists have committed you still jump in line to defend them and condemn the United States for having the balls to stand up for itself. Please, going by your logic if Osama Bin Laden was innocent why would he be one of the most wanted men in the first place? That's right, you don't live in the States, so you wouldn't have been here when every paper held the "Wanted for the mass murder of U.S. citizens" headlines. Believe what you want, that's your right, and the right of every person, except for those who until most recently were freed from being under the heel of a mass murderer. They were freed by the efforts of American and British soldiers, one of which was my brother, the only people who seem to give a shit about this world any more.
Finally, what deciding force in Hell makes my beliefs misguided? You haven't established anything to prove the contrary, all you've done is spout off conspiracy theories with absolutely no grounding in fact. Even more, you're from another country, and thus can only get information from the ultra-opinionated internet or your own biased new services. You sir, are part of the conspiracy theory Cool Aid drinkers club. Now I'm not offended by the blatant idiocy here, but come one, you do not have the authority or knowledge to call me misinformed, misguided, or an unintelligent just because I'm American. I could say the same thing about you.

O god. you are like a christmass delight. i can unwrapp you and chew all day long. and then spit you back out cause you taste rot. The situation in middle east is worse since your country decided to attack a second time. I dont blame the soldiers, i instead salute them for their courage but they are mere pawns of their goverment. You still believe that you invaded iraq to find the weapons of mass distraction. Conspiracy theories. i dont know if you dress as Mulder or Scully but there are no conspiracy theories unless you want them to be in order to fortify your goverments stupid , wrong and immoral decisions over almost everything that mattered for the past 8 years. Untill you open a book or watch something else than FOX news you wont be able to understand anything else. I am not trying to change your thinking-only god and lobotomy can do that- but i only suggest that there is a different story here. And if you are intersted in something different check out Zeitgeist and Zeitgeist adendum. Also check 9/11 a ground zero investigation. I f you dont belive me atleast believe all the scientists and the nobel prize winner that say 9/11 was a con. Oh and the witnesses that came forth and gave statements.
If you dont believe me believe what you see with your own eyes. And i am not trying to defile the memories of those lost in the towers and planes they were victims of a dirty war that your goverment had played a bigger part than you think.

P.S Greek history is full of wars because nine out of ten times we had an actual real enemy with real army invading us. And i as many others in the world outsde U.S.A care for what is happening in your country because you are the leaders of the western hemisphere. And it saddens me to see how you have fallen from a beacon of hope and freedom to your current state.

 

[Frater Perdurabo]

Yes, because a man with his incredible amount of experience is just what we need in the economic crisis. Yes, because a man taught by Communists is the right choice in a Capitalist based society. Yes, because a man that cannot think for himself, that must be in front of a TelePrompTer at all times has the ingenuity, intelligence and ability to lead us. Yes, because a man that thinks there are 57 states is the exact role model for young people. Yes, because the "change we need" is the reinstitution of the cabinet and policies of the Clinton Era. Yes, because a man that doesn't even realize that he's the most powerful man in the world is holding the keys to our future. Yes, because since his campaign was so good he absolutely cannot fail. Yes, because a man with such little grip upon world issues is the right man for the job. I could keep going, but I don't feel the need to. Wait I've got another more. Yes, the Community Organizer from Chicago with connections to terrorists and slum crime lords, that has less time in the Senate that I do with playing Halo 3 is a much better choice than the decorated war hero whose faced the darkest of times and come through with honor and humility, and who has spent an incredible amount of time serving this country. A man who's only criticisms were that he was "old" "just like Bush" (which isn't true at all, merely left wing propaganda) and "can't use a computer" (because the injuries sustained during the five years he spent in hell in a Vietnamese prison camp with his fellow men have rendered him unable to use a keyboard.)
I hope that Obama is the greatest president ever, but I know he won't be. His policies have been proven time and time again to be failures, what policies he has ever expressed. He lacks the understanding, the humility, the experience, the courage, the temperance, the morality, the honesty, and the character to succeed. While I believe that Obama may very well be a "smart" man, a good father, and a charismatic speaker (when he's been told what to say) he was not the right man for this office.

Don't get me started on Socialized Medicine. When you break down the people that don't have healthcare very few actually cannot afford it. A 1/5 or so are illegal immigrants, nearly half are those who willfully refuse it because of a feeling of "immortality" due to young age. Another part of the demographic are people that are so incredibly wealthy they don't need it. And if people can't afford it but still need an operation or are sick they do not have to pay. Why do you think so many Canadians come to the U.S. to have surgery? Socialized healthcare adds a massive amount of patients at one time, causing overcrowding, and long waiting lines. Substandard hospitals, poorly equipped facilities, and doctors that are underpaid spawn out of it. By the way, the massive tax increase that comes along with all of this means it isn't fee anyway, you just get around 26 billion extra in money paid to the government.

Obama isn't the solution. Bush strengthened our defense, but did little on the home front because of his massive spending. However, Obama's policies are no different, the first thing he wants is a trillion dollar bailout! There are a number of ways to accomplish this. One, print more money, inflation rises. Two, tax more, you voted for this guy people. Three, go farther in debt to ourselves. I'm sorry, but I cannot put faith in this man.

Sources: http://www.cato.org/pubs/catosletter/catosletterv3n1.pdf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

Easy on the Cool Aid Captain. Next time you write something read it before you post it. Bush Stregthened your defenses??? For god's sake he waged wars with non existent enemies and streched thn your troops. You need one more battlefield for your warmachine to collapse.

About the tax thing you mentioned. I wont speak about your 13 trillion external debt that you as a country have thanks to Bush neither for the gifts of 20 billion Dollars in military equipment you give to Israel every Year.

And about the age thing you mentioned, Your country needs a president young enough that wont die of old age during his first term and will also be able to understand the young people of your country cause their the future.

Also it is costume to wait for the man to die before you bury him. but history showed us that you are ok to have a corpse controlled by FED run your country.

By strengthened our defenses I meant that despite numerous terrorist attacks on other countries after 911 the United States was not hit again. If you think it wasn't because terrorists didn't try you've got to be crazy, it's common sense they'd want to try and launch more strikes. I do believe that it's because of the Patriot Act that many attacks were stopped, whether small scale or large scale. Make all the accusations you want about "civil rights violations" but really, it worked. If you bothered to read my post you'd have noticed that I criticized Bush's massive spending, but a man that wants to come in and spend even more won't improve this.

In all honesty, is it the young people of this country that need to be understood, or the rest of the world and the country in which he will run? Personally, as a young person I am drawn to the war hero/patriot/servant of his country over the marijuana-smoking, community organizer that abstained from voting 44% of the time. McCain is in no way feebleminded, and in no way close to death, so I highly doubt that he'd die in the next four years.

I also take extreme offense to be called a Cool-Aid drinker. I think Cool-Aid is a delicious beverage that all people should enjoy. On a more serious note, the people who voted for a man who ran around yelling "Change! Change! Change!" drink far more Cool-Aid than me.

WHAT? You support the patriot Act? are you blind? they turned you from a free nation to an oligarchy overnight with this piece of toilet paper. Oh and if you still believe that 9/11 wasnt funded by CIA and that the planes wherent decoys to hide they remote demolitions of the two towers i have one think two say. WAKE UP. open your eyes. Search for your self. And another think. If you are so convinced that 9/11 attacks was the job of osama bin laden and his lot why is it that in the OFFICIAL site of F.B.I with the mst wanted men in the world under Osama profile it says nothing about the 9/11 attacks? By the way is better to yell CHANGE all the time than declare do go to war with Iran when you get elected. That s right i am talking about your buddy Mccain. Its not your fault. i Presume you live in the states thats why you have so few intelligence on the matter of who is doing what in your country. Dont be offended by my post's i am Greek and we used to speak the truth. Or lie damn well about it. unlike your current administration.
And on a humorous note i dont know what Cool-aid tastes like. Its just the phrase is spot-on to your previously written misguided beliefs.

I'm sorry but I've had enough. I'm sick of you foreigners thinking you know anything at all about us.

Your a moron plain and simple.

Bush possibly one of the greatest presidents ever kept this country safe from evil. In the future you morons will realize that he was one of biggest defenders of our country, one of the biggest patriots. I am so greatful he was elected when he was, because if Gore would have won I doubt he could have led us through. Could he have done things better? Yes. Was he wrong about Iraq? Yes, but either way good came out of it. A country and millions were freed from the very evil we are trying to abolish. My father was in the air on a plane in the new york area when 9/11 happend. I thought he had died. You dont know the pain and suffering that this country has gone through, the sacrifies we have made, that we still make. To say that the 9/11 terrorist attacks were orchestrated by our own government just shows you are and again are a MORON. Fucking Osama ADMITTED he had planned the attacks. Go back into your hole and never speak again you insensitive prick.

Since when they put internet connection in mental institutes. You are ignorant. from what i just read its you who is in a hole for the past 6 years. get a grip. I am rendered speechless. if you are allowed to vote we are certainly doomed.

 

[Lord George]

Yes, because a man with his incredible amount of experience is just what we need in the economic crisis. Yes, because a man taught by Communists is the right choice in a Capitalist based society. Yes, because a man that cannot think for himself, that must be in front of a TelePrompTer at all times has the ingenuity, intelligence and ability to lead us. Yes, because a man that thinks there are 57 states is the exact role model for young people. Yes, because the "change we need" is the reinstitution of the cabinet and policies of the Clinton Era. Yes, because a man that doesn't even realize that he's the most powerful man in the world is holding the keys to our future. Yes, because since his campaign was so good he absolutely cannot fail. Yes, because a man with such little grip upon world issues is the right man for the job. I could keep going, but I don't feel the need to. Wait I've got another more. Yes, the Community Organizer from Chicago with connections to terrorists and slum crime lords, that has less time in the Senate that I do with playing Halo 3 is a much better choice than the decorated war hero whose faced the darkest of times and come through with honor and humility, and who has spent an incredible amount of time serving this country. A man who's only criticisms were that he was "old" "just like Bush" (which isn't true at all, merely left wing propaganda) and "can't use a computer" (because the injuries sustained during the five years he spent in hell in a Vietnamese prison camp with his fellow men have rendered him unable to use a keyboard.)
I hope that Obama is the greatest president ever, but I know he won't be. His policies have been proven time and time again to be failures, what policies he has ever expressed. He lacks the understanding, the humility, the experience, the courage, the temperance, the morality, the honesty, and the character to succeed. While I believe that Obama may very well be a "smart" man, a good father, and a charismatic speaker (when he's been told what to say) he was not the right man for this office.

Don't get me started on Socialized Medicine. When you break down the people that don't have healthcare very few actually cannot afford it. A 1/5 or so are illegal immigrants, nearly half are those who willfully refuse it because of a feeling of "immortality" due to young age. Another part of the demographic are people that are so incredibly wealthy they don't need it. And if people can't afford it but still need an operation or are sick they do not have to pay. Why do you think so many Canadians come to the U.S. to have surgery? Socialized healthcare adds a massive amount of patients at one time, causing overcrowding, and long waiting lines. Substandard hospitals, poorly equipped facilities, and doctors that are underpaid spawn out of it. By the way, the massive tax increase that comes along with all of this means it isn't fee anyway, you just get around 26 billion extra in money paid to the government.

Obama isn't the solution. Bush strengthened our defense, but did little on the home front because of his massive spending. However, Obama's policies are no different, the first thing he wants is a trillion dollar bailout! There are a number of ways to accomplish this. One, print more money, inflation rises. Two, tax more, you voted for this guy people. Three, go farther in debt to ourselves. I'm sorry, but I cannot put faith in this man.

Sources: http://www.cato.org/pubs/catosletter/catosletterv3n1.pdf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

Easy on the Cool Aid Captain. Next time you write something read it before you post it. Bush Stregthened your defenses??? For god's sake he waged wars with non existent enemies and streched thn your troops. You need one more battlefield for your warmachine to collapse.

About the tax thing you mentioned. I wont speak about your 13 trillion external debt that you as a country have thanks to Bush neither for the gifts of 20 billion Dollars in military equipment you give to Israel every Year.

And about the age thing you mentioned, Your country needs a president young enough that wont die of old age during his first term and will also be able to understand the young people of your country cause their the future.

Also it is costume to wait for the man to die before you bury him. but history showed us that you are ok to have a corpse controlled by FED run your country.

By strengthened our defenses I meant that despite numerous terrorist attacks on other countries after 911 the United States was not hit again. If you think it wasn't because terrorists didn't try you've got to be crazy, it's common sense they'd want to try and launch more strikes. I do believe that it's because of the Patriot Act that many attacks were stopped, whether small scale or large scale. Make all the accusations you want about "civil rights violations" but really, it worked. If you bothered to read my post you'd have noticed that I criticized Bush's massive spending, but a man that wants to come in and spend even more won't improve this.

In all honesty, is it the young people of this country that need to be understood, or the rest of the world and the country in which he will run? Personally, as a young person I am drawn to the war hero/patriot/servant of his country over the marijuana-smoking, community organizer that abstained from voting 44% of the time. McCain is in no way feebleminded, and in no way close to death, so I highly doubt that he'd die in the next four years.

I also take extreme offense to be called a Cool-Aid drinker. I think Cool-Aid is a delicious beverage that all people should enjoy. On a more serious note, the people who voted for a man who ran around yelling "Change! Change! Change!" drink far more Cool-Aid than me.

WHAT? You support the patriot Act? are you blind? they turned you from a free nation to an oligarchy overnight with this piece of toilet paper. Oh and if you still believe that 9/11 wasnt funded by CIA and that the planes wherent decoys to hide they remote demolitions of the two towers i have one think two say. WAKE UP. open your eyes. Search for your self. And another think. If you are so convinced that 9/11 attacks was the job of osama bin laden and his lot why is it that in the OFFICIAL site of F.B.I with the mst wanted men in the world under Osama profile it says nothing about the 9/11 attacks? By the way is better to yell CHANGE all the time than declare do go to war with Iran when you get elected. That s right i am talking about your buddy Mccain. Its not your fault. i Presume you live in the states thats why you have so few intelligence on the matter of who is doing what in your country. Dont be offended by my post's i am Greek and we used to speak the truth. Or lie damn well about it. unlike your current administration.
And on a humorous note i dont know what Cool-aid tastes like. Its just the phrase is spot-on to your previously written misguided beliefs.

I'm sorry but I've had enough. I'm sick of you foreigners thinking you know anything at all about us.

Your a moron plain and simple.

Bush possibly one of the greatest presidents ever kept this country safe from evil. In the future you morons will realize that he was one of biggest defenders of our country, one of the biggest patriots. I am so greatful he was elected when he was, because if Gore would have won I doubt he could have led us through. Could he have done things better? Yes. Was he wrong about Iraq? Yes, but either way good came out of it. A country and millions were freed from the very evil we are trying to abolish. My father was in the air on a plane in the new york area when 9/11 happend. I thought he had died. You dont know the pain and suffering that this country has gone through, the sacrifies we have made, that we still make. To say that the 9/11 terrorist attacks were orchestrated by our own government just shows you are and again are a MORON. Fucking Osama ADMITTED he had planned the attacks. Go back into your hole and never speak again you insensitive prick.

I'm gonna agree with the other guy here, George Bush wasn't that great, in fact he became the laughing stock of the world, and people viewed America as a joke. Does that say great leader to you? You didn't free Iraq you just attacked it and created a generation willing to become suicide bombers. Also the 9/11 thing was a bad thing but it wasn't this great world changing event really, it just showed America that it wasn't invincible. i think Obama will hopefully show the rest of the world that Americas not just a big joke but is actually a country that can help the world

 

[Gamer101]

He calls Iraq/wmod a 'conspiracy theory', then goes on and states 9/11 was funded by the CIA as the truth.

Regardless of political stance within, as an American, I second Darkside360. 'Nuff said.

 

[Untamed Waters]

The sign of a great leader isn't that he's popular, it's that he did what's right and stood up for what he believes in.

 

[Untamed Waters]

The sign of a great leader isn't that he's popular, it's that he did what's right and stood up for what he believes in.

Exactly, he did what he felt needed to be done. A great leader does not let outside opinions change what he/she feels needs to be done.

Spot on. That's why anyone has to admit that President Bush (And he is still president) has some of the most political courage that the world has ever seen.

 

[Frater Perdurabo]

Gentlemen it was a very interesting conversation which i am glad it took place.

Yes, because a man with his incredible amount of experience is just what we need in the economic crisis. Yes, because a man taught by Communists is the right choice in a Capitalist based society. Yes, because a man that cannot think for himself, that must be in front of a TelePrompTer at all times has the ingenuity, intelligence and ability to lead us. Yes, because a man that thinks there are 57 states is the exact role model for young people. Yes, because the "change we need" is the reinstitution of the cabinet and policies of the Clinton Era. Yes, because a man that doesn't even realize that he's the most powerful man in the world is holding the keys to our future. Yes, because since his campaign was so good he absolutely cannot fail. Yes, because a man with such little grip upon world issues is the right man for the job. I could keep going, but I don't feel the need to. Wait I've got another more. Yes, the Community Organizer from Chicago with connections to terrorists and slum crime lords, that has less time in the Senate that I do with playing Halo 3 is a much better choice than the decorated war hero whose faced the darkest of times and come through with honor and humility, and who has spent an incredible amount of time serving this country. A man who's only criticisms were that he was "old" "just like Bush" (which isn't true at all, merely left wing propaganda) and "can't use a computer" (because the injuries sustained during the five years he spent in hell in a Vietnamese prison camp with his fellow men have rendered him unable to use a keyboard.)
I hope that Obama is the greatest president ever, but I know he won't be. His policies have been proven time and time again to be failures, what policies he has ever expressed. He lacks the understanding, the humility, the experience, the courage, the temperance, the morality, the honesty, and the character to succeed. While I believe that Obama may very well be a "smart" man, a good father, and a charismatic speaker (when he's been told what to say) he was not the right man for this office.

Don't get me started on Socialized Medicine. When you break down the people that don't have healthcare very few actually cannot afford it. A 1/5 or so are illegal immigrants, nearly half are those who willfully refuse it because of a feeling of "immortality" due to young age. Another part of the demographic are people that are so incredibly wealthy they don't need it. And if people can't afford it but still need an operation or are sick they do not have to pay. Why do you think so many Canadians come to the U.S. to have surgery? Socialized healthcare adds a massive amount of patients at one time, causing overcrowding, and long waiting lines. Substandard hospitals, poorly equipped facilities, and doctors that are underpaid spawn out of it. By the way, the massive tax increase that comes along with all of this means it isn't fee anyway, you just get around 26 billion extra in money paid to the government.

Obama isn't the solution. Bush strengthened our defense, but did little on the home front because of his massive spending. However, Obama's policies are no different, the first thing he wants is a trillion dollar bailout! There are a number of ways to accomplish this. One, print more money, inflation rises. Two, tax more, you voted for this guy people. Three, go farther in debt to ourselves. I'm sorry, but I cannot put faith in this man.

Sources: http://www.cato.org/pubs/catosletter/catosletterv3n1.pdf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

Easy on the Cool Aid Captain. Next time you write something read it before you post it. Bush Stregthened your defenses??? For god's sake he waged wars with non existent enemies and streched thn your troops. You need one more battlefield for your warmachine to collapse.

About the tax thing you mentioned. I wont speak about your 13 trillion external debt that you as a country have thanks to Bush neither for the gifts of 20 billion Dollars in military equipment you give to Israel every Year.

And about the age thing you mentioned, Your country needs a president young enough that wont die of old age during his first term and will also be able to understand the young people of your country cause their the future.

Also it is costume to wait for the man to die before you bury him. but history showed us that you are ok to have a corpse controlled by FED run your country.

By strengthened our defenses I meant that despite numerous terrorist attacks on other countries after 911 the United States was not hit again. If you think it wasn't because terrorists didn't try you've got to be crazy, it's common sense they'd want to try and launch more strikes. I do believe that it's because of the Patriot Act that many attacks were stopped, whether small scale or large scale. Make all the accusations you want about "civil rights violations" but really, it worked. If you bothered to read my post you'd have noticed that I criticized Bush's massive spending, but a man that wants to come in and spend even more won't improve this.

In all honesty, is it the young people of this country that need to be understood, or the rest of the world and the country in which he will run? Personally, as a young person I am drawn to the war hero/patriot/servant of his country over the marijuana-smoking, community organizer that abstained from voting 44% of the time. McCain is in no way feebleminded, and in no way close to death, so I highly doubt that he'd die in the next four years.

I also take extreme offense to be called a Cool-Aid drinker. I think Cool-Aid is a delicious beverage that all people should enjoy. On a more serious note, the people who voted for a man who ran around yelling "Change! Change! Change!" drink far more Cool-Aid than me.

WHAT? You support the patriot Act? are you blind? they turned you from a free nation to an oligarchy overnight with this piece of toilet paper. Oh and if you still believe that 9/11 wasnt funded by CIA and that the planes wherent decoys to hide they remote demolitions of the two towers i have one think two say. WAKE UP. open your eyes. Search for your self. And another think. If you are so convinced that 9/11 attacks was the job of osama bin laden and his lot why is it that in the OFFICIAL site of F.B.I with the mst wanted men in the world under Osama profile it says nothing about the 9/11 attacks? By the way is better to yell CHANGE all the time than declare do go to war with Iran when you get elected. That s right i am talking about your buddy Mccain. Its not your fault. i Presume you live in the states thats why you have so few intelligence on the matter of who is doing what in your country. Dont be offended by my post's i am Greek and we used to speak the truth. Or lie damn well about it. unlike your current administration.
And on a humorous note i dont know what Cool-aid tastes like. Its just the phrase is spot-on to your previously written misguided beliefs.

I'm sorry but I've had enough. I'm sick of you foreigners thinking you know anything at all about us.

Your a moron plain and simple.

Bush possibly one of the greatest presidents ever kept this country safe from evil. In the future you morons will realize that he was one of biggest defenders of our country, one of the biggest patriots. I am so greatful he was elected when he was, because if Gore would have won I doubt he could have led us through. Could he have done things better? Yes. Was he wrong about Iraq? Yes, but either way good came out of it. A country and millions were freed from the very evil we are trying to abolish. My father was in the air on a plane in the new york area when 9/11 happend. I thought he had died. You dont know the pain and suffering that this country has gone through, the sacrifies we have made, that we still make. To say that the 9/11 terrorist attacks were orchestrated by our own government just shows you are and again are a MORON. Fucking Osama ADMITTED he had planned the attacks. Go back into your hole and never speak again you insensitive prick.

I'm gonna agree with the other guy here, George Bush wasn't that great, in fact he became the laughing stock of the world, and people viewed America as a joke. Does that say great leader to you? You didn't free Iraq you just attacked it and created a generation willing to become suicide bombers. Also the 9/11 thing was a bad thing but it wasn't this great world changing event really, it just showed America that it wasn't invincible. i think Obama will hopefully show the rest of the world that Americas not just a big joke but is actually a country that can help the world

Hmm let me see, Oh yes you are a foreigner too. Again you dont know SHIT. Because Bush and our brave soldiers, EVEN YOUR own country men, thousands of terrorist are dead. Dozens if not hundreds of attacks have been thwarted. There are too many fucking pussies in this world, whenever a country goes to war, they all bash them trying to dictate their foreign policies. Bush wouldnt let you foreigners dictate us.

Yeah and Fat chance at Obama trying to change really anything. The only thing he can probably change is how many more innocent people are open to terrorist attacks.

Gentlemen it was a very pleasant conversation which i am glad i did in this forum which guarantees i could speak with intelligent people. thank you very much for unfolding your ideals and thoughts to me a humble stranger and stay true to your selfs. Have a goodnight you and take care. Dont see my withdrawal us a sign of weakness but as a sign of fullfilment. thank you again

 

[Majick]

The sign of a great leader isn't that he's popular, it's that he did what's right and stood up for what he believes in.

Exactly, he did what he felt needed to be done. A great leader does not let outside opinions change what he/she feels needs to be done.

Spot on. That's why anyone has to admit that President Bush (And he is still president) has some of the most political courage that the world has ever seen.

...Wow.
A true leader doesn't do what he want. A true leader is popular, mainly because he, oh, I don't know; DOES WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT. So when you're a leader you can force you ideological beliefs down everyone's throats? No, you represent the people, and you are a tool of their will. And, Bush? Political courage? Please. Nelson Mandela had political courage, Gandhi had political courage. Bush has ignorance and is only useful as a laughing stock and to inspire others that they could be President.

 

[Untamed Waters]

The sign of a great leader isn't that he's popular, it's that he did what's right and stood up for what he believes in.

Exactly, he did what he felt needed to be done. A great leader does not let outside opinions change what he/she feels needs to be done.

Spot on. That's why anyone has to admit that President Bush (And he is still president) has some of the most political courage that the world has ever seen.

...Wow.
A true leader doesn't do what he want. A true leader is popular, mainly because he, oh, I don't know; DOES WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT. So when you're a leader you can force you ideological beliefs down everyone's throats? No, you represent the people, and you are a tool of their will. And, Bush? Political courage? Please. Nelson Mandela had political courage, Gandhi had political courage. Bush has ignorance and is only useful as a laughing stock and to inspire others that they could be President.

You DO know what "Political courage" means, right?

You know, it's funny, because until we have a totally 100% vote (for one side) someday, nobody is a "true" leader because there will always be more than one person who does NOT agree with him. If anything, your post is the one with ignorance written all over it.