Obsidian Gears Up For Wasteland 2

Andy Chalk

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Is this gonna be the generic obsidian work where they take something was epic and just release it with a few modifications and pass it off as original? If so count me out. I could barely get through New Vegas because it was just Fallout 3 with mods for console.
 

DRTJR

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Audacity said:
Is this gonna be the generic obsidian work where they take something was epic and just release it with a few modifications and pass it off as original? If so count me out. I could barely get through New Vegas because it was just Fallout 3 with mods for console.
Oh no! they took a successful formula, improved upon it, and then filled the game world with interesting characters, locations, and quests. How dare they make a sequal to a popular game and make it their own while keeping what brought in old and new fans of Fallout in Fallout 3.

Also wasn't the first wasteland one of the biggest inspirations for Fallout?
 

Andy Chalk

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oh my thi is getting insane i so cant wait.. come on people lets get obsidian onboard :D
 

Callate

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...So does that mean we can expect the story to be a third longer than they have time to develop and then get chopped off just before release...?

I kid. I actually quite enjoyed Alpha Protocol, and mine spouse has been playing the heck out of New Vegas (albeit with a significant amount of help from some FAQs to work around some of the more significant bugs.) I'll probably chip in to make this happen.
 

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Ewyx said:
PrinceOfShapeir said:
Hopefully they'll spend a little bit of that 2 million on a QA department.
feel free to read up fargos last interview. QA is handled by the publisher.
Damn! Got here too late to preemptively mention this! Link for easiness.

There. Can you people lay off Obsidian's back now? It made me a bit irked to see the whole "bugs" criticism mentioned over and over throughout MM. Keep in mind, this would/will be Obsidian working without publishers on it's back, free to keep the content they want in the game and to take care of the QA part themselves, without the pressure to meet strict deadlines (and running out of financing, if one donates enough). /throwsmoney
 

PrinceOfShapeir

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aemroth said:
Ewyx said:
PrinceOfShapeir said:
Hopefully they'll spend a little bit of that 2 million on a QA department.
feel free to read up fargos last interview. QA is handled by the publisher.
Damn! Got here too late to preemptively mention this! Link for easiness.

There. Can you people lay off Obsidian's back now? It made me a bit irked to see the whole "bugs" criticism mentioned over and over throughout MM. Keep in mind, this would/will be Obsidian working without publishers on it's back, free to keep the content they want in the game and to take care of the QA part themselves, without the pressure to meet strict deadlines (and running out of financing, if one donates enough). /throwsmoney
Sorry, no, don't buy it. There hasn't been a single Obsidian game that wasn't a buggy mess. Coincidence? Doubt it.
 

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Still not giving my money to this, but if it comes out in a few years, I'll probably buy it.
 

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Ok that's it I'm giving up my birthday present to give all of that money to this kickstarter. Here's to hoping that they get to make the game they always wanted.
 

Andy Chalk

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PrinceOfShapeir said:
aemroth said:
Ewyx said:
PrinceOfShapeir said:
Hopefully they'll spend a little bit of that 2 million on a QA department.
feel free to read up fargos last interview. QA is handled by the publisher.
Damn! Got here too late to preemptively mention this! Link for easiness.

There. Can you people lay off Obsidian's back now? It made me a bit irked to see the whole "bugs" criticism mentioned over and over throughout MM. Keep in mind, this would/will be Obsidian working without publishers on it's back, free to keep the content they want in the game and to take care of the QA part themselves, without the pressure to meet strict deadlines (and running out of financing, if one donates enough). /throwsmoney
Sorry, no, don't buy it. There hasn't been a single Obsidian game that wasn't a buggy mess. Coincidence? Doubt it.
Funnily enough, Obsidian haven't self-published a game either.

Lucasarts and Bethesda are on record as screwing Obsidian when it came to QA'ing the game. Lucasarts knobbed them out of an extra year's worth of development time, and Bethesda told them they'd handle bug-testing inhouse.

Strangely, Obsidian developed their own engine for Dungeon Siege 3, and by all accounts it's as bug free as any other game out there on the market. Seems like if you let Obsidian use their own tools, and give them a reasonable development period, they can make a game as smooth as anyone else. Funny that...
 

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PrinceOfShapeir said:
Sorry, no, don't buy it. There hasn't been a single Obsidian game that wasn't a buggy mess. Coincidence? Doubt it.
Great, got a better argument besides "No!" ?
 

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PrinceOfShapeir said:
aemroth said:
Ewyx said:
PrinceOfShapeir said:
Hopefully they'll spend a little bit of that 2 million on a QA department.
feel free to read up fargos last interview. QA is handled by the publisher.
Damn! Got here too late to preemptively mention this! Link for easiness.

There. Can you people lay off Obsidian's back now? It made me a bit irked to see the whole "bugs" criticism mentioned over and over throughout MM. Keep in mind, this would/will be Obsidian working without publishers on it's back, free to keep the content they want in the game and to take care of the QA part themselves, without the pressure to meet strict deadlines (and running out of financing, if one donates enough). /throwsmoney
Sorry, no, don't buy it. There hasn't been a single Obsidian game that wasn't a buggy mess. Coincidence? Doubt it.
You just had a link with Obsidian's original publisher telling you how QA works and you are still in denial. Also go check out every one of Obsidian's games and see how many of them have had horrible publishers or some other problem. KOTOR 2 was rushed out with a 3rd of the game unfinished and Lucas Arts refused Obsidian the right to make a patch after the game was released. Neverwinter Nights 2 was using Bioware's Aurora Engine and had technical support from Bioware as well. Alpha Protocol was made when Obsidian was going through massive troubles so that's the only one they can be truly blamed for save QA because as said by a freaking publisher they take care of it. Fallout New Vegas had Bethesda's QA behind it so that was a death sentence from the start that cost Obsidian some of their jobs. Dungeon Siege 3 used Obsidian's own engine and is nearly bug free with only a few people having any problems with it at all. Do you see it yet?
 

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PrinceOfShapeir said:
aemroth said:
Ewyx said:
PrinceOfShapeir said:
Hopefully they'll spend a little bit of that 2 million on a QA department.
feel free to read up fargos last interview. QA is handled by the publisher.
Damn! Got here too late to preemptively mention this! Link for easiness.

There. Can you people lay off Obsidian's back now? It made me a bit irked to see the whole "bugs" criticism mentioned over and over throughout MM. Keep in mind, this would/will be Obsidian working without publishers on it's back, free to keep the content they want in the game and to take care of the QA part themselves, without the pressure to meet strict deadlines (and running out of financing, if one donates enough). /throwsmoney
Sorry, no, don't buy it. There hasn't been a single Obsidian game that wasn't a buggy mess. Coincidence? Doubt it.
Obsidian is going to be working on design and writing so that isn't even really relevant.
Besides at this point we almost have old Interplay back for this project and they made great games.
 

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Man. I already donated $75 of this month's paycheck, which is about as much as I can spend without going into grocery/gas money. :( Someone a little farther along in career development than I am donate the $25 I would donate if I wasn't already skimming the edges.
 

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PrinceOfShapeir said:
aemroth said:
Ewyx said:
PrinceOfShapeir said:
Hopefully they'll spend a little bit of that 2 million on a QA department.
feel free to read up fargos last interview. QA is handled by the publisher.
Damn! Got here too late to preemptively mention this! Link for easiness.

There. Can you people lay off Obsidian's back now? It made me a bit irked to see the whole "bugs" criticism mentioned over and over throughout MM. Keep in mind, this would/will be Obsidian working without publishers on it's back, free to keep the content they want in the game and to take care of the QA part themselves, without the pressure to meet strict deadlines (and running out of financing, if one donates enough). /throwsmoney
Sorry, no, don't buy it. There hasn't been a single Obsidian game that wasn't a buggy mess. Coincidence? Doubt it.
Alpha Protocol and Dungeon Siege 3 weren't buggy. Though the former just had some design flaws that irked a lot of people (but I didn't run into a single bug, and most everything that I hear people refer to as bugs were just questionable AI behaviors).
 

Andy Chalk

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DRTJR said:
Also wasn't the first wasteland one of the biggest inspirations for Fallout?
Fallout was made because Fargo and co. wanted to do a sequel to Wasteland but couldn't get the rights to the IP.
 

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Dear God, it's like my favorites from the past are returning. Everything I loved about Wasteland and the original Fallouts, Obsidian, and an actual old-school RPG. How can someone NOT love this?
 

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DRTJR said:
Audacity said:
Is this gonna be the generic obsidian work where they take something was epic and just release it with a few modifications and pass it off as original? If so count me out. I could barely get through New Vegas because it was just Fallout 3 with mods for console.
Oh no! they took a successful formula, improved upon it, and then filled the game world with interesting characters, locations, and quests. How dare they make a sequal to a popular game and make it their own while keeping what brought in old and new fans of Fallout in Fallout 3.

Also wasn't the first wasteland one of the biggest inspirations for Fallout?
Dont forget ppl in Obsiden where from Black isle studios. ho. made Fallout

I hated 3 but enjoyed New Vegas


OT: i need more money to throw into this