turtlenecks. that is why.Daystar Clarion said:
I still have a UNIX box from 1987 with 16kb RAM that hasn't crashed yet, and still runs like a dream. The only fault it has is that the motherboard battery died, so you have to remind it what it's master and slave drivers are. Haven't had to replace anything, either. Does that make it a superior machine to any Macs or modern day PCs? Rhetorical question to answer your 1998 Mac story, and show that comparing an old machine to a new machine is rather silly. It runs UNIX mainly, but also has partitions for OS/2 DOS and Windows 3.1.The Heik said:
Don't I know it, I'm currently at uni (doing computer science) but I come from a small community and my father was a local publican so my family was quite well known in the area. Well known family + knack for fixing things in general + studying comp sci = tech support for about a 3rd of the town.Kalezian said:
lol yes this always annoys me. I've run into mac users that don't believe me when the subject comes up of PowerPC arch being in the older macs, I guess because PowerPC has the letters `PC' in it. And they're like `PC is Windows and that's stupid, Apple would never use any shitty Windows shit' and I can't fucking facepalm hard enough 9_9 It doesn't even stand for the same thing.SuccessAndBiscuts said:
Well, free as in beer too. But that's not as important, it's just a nice featureSuccessAndBiscuts said:
People don't get this wrong. Have you forgotten about all the Apple marketing? The whole "Mac vs. PC" thing? Apple doesn't brand their computers as PCs even though they technically are, so it makes sense that people wouldn't consider Macs to be PCs.SuccessAndBiscuts said:
Marketing does not accuracy make, PC standing for personal computer just makes more sense, a machine running Windows 7 is a PC a machine running Snow Leopard is a PC a machine running Natty Narwhal is a PCInternet Kraken said:
Sorry to say it buy you're dad messed up, or quite frankly doesn't know what he's doing too well. I have a 2004 refurbished Windows XP machine, which is quite literally a piece of shit (it cost me $300 then), and it still has never broken down (Hardware wise) and apart from a couple viruses, is a completely functional machine. I could download the latest itunes and the latest version of most programs that weren't too labour intensive (Games, photoshop, etc), and putting in about another $300 and a weekend I could probably get it to run essentially every program with the exception of some games. So even if we don't account for the fact that the current price of my machine has severely deteriorated, I would have spent about 600 to get a decent functional machine which is way lower than the price of any current mac.The Heik said:I honestly don't see why people are complaining. Their OS is out of date, so they need to buy a new one. This is not surprising to anyone who has owned computers for any extended amount of time. In 2007 Apple was already telling people that they were coming out with a new different OS, so these people faults really were that they bought something on the way out, and they can only blame themselves. The simple fact that the article writer's computer worked for so long on an outdated system is a credit to how well Apple makes its products. As a bonus, he doesn't even have to buy a whole new computer to get the OS. One only needs to buy the OS disc. That's it. Considering that his computer is 4 years old, that's a pretty good deal. Comparatively on a PC, one would not only have to buy the new OS, but new parts in order to ensure that the system would function at all.Versuvius said:
Which leads me to:
While this may be true, let me point out something with broken down PCs vs broken down Macs.Johnnyallstar said:I think this is appropriate at this point.
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Around 2005, my dad, a professional electrician and computer repair man at the CBC (that the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation for any of you not from Canada), bought a Windows XP Home OS and combined it with a set of reliable computer systems for my first home computer. It is now 2011, and despite my dad's expert work, the things has hard crashed a few times and has needed quite new parts
Comparatively, in 1998 my dad bought a iMac 3G, more commonly known as the Strawberry Mac. It lasted us until 2010, where at that point it was so old that the parts were falling apart, because it had outlived its expected lifespan. Yet, until the very end of those 12 years, it never had broken down once, and more importantly had been able to do quite a few things that much newer models of other computer OSs were able to do.
My point is that while you do need to buy a whole new Mac when the old one is done, it takes quite a while before that is utterly necessary. This is because Mac hardware and software are specifically designed to match each other and be updated seamlessly, maximizing their capability and stability. Many PCs on the other hand, are an amalgam of parts and programming, meaning that there's always a chance they won't match well, leading to ye olde Blue Screen of Death.
So if the PC is muscle car and only needs parts when it breaks, then it's one whose parts become more and more expensive farther down the road and which may not match the vehicle as a whole, possibly leading to a mass breakdown that can require a full overhaul. The Mac sports car on the other hand, while needing to be replaced completely if it fails, rarely does so, and mostly only if there was a defect with that specific model unit or if it is at the end of it's expected lifespan. Otherwise it only needs a quick tune up that is was designed for, and which is checked by professionals to make sure it works, rather than your average Joe slapping bits together.
I agree with you, but its much quicker to write PC than a PC running Windows XP, or a Windows Machine, and pretty much everyone knows what your talking about when you say you have a PC as opposed to a Mac.SuccessAndBiscuts said:
Marketing does make social opinion though. That's why Twiglet is still a "teen phenomenom".SuccessAndBiscuts said:
And the ridiculous price tag that goes with it. 1200 Euros for an outdated laptop with a shiny case and a different operating system? Puh-lease. It's frustrating to see people fall for their marketing schemes. They're just PC's people!Daystar Clarion said:
At least their consoles are a crapton cheaper than Apple's crap, and they're not really multi-purpose machines anyway.The_root_of_all_evil said:
