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This might’ve ultimately been Biden’s biggest accomplishment in limiting China’s access to the world’s most advanced chips.
What country is going to forgo power just because of intellectual property?

The whole system of intellectual property (IP) works at a global level because countries defend their IP by threatening something worse (sanctions, war, etc.). Sanctions because countries that generate lots of IP tend to have lots of useful things and money other countries want.

In a world where something critical is invented and a country threatens to weaponise access to it against others, unless some other threat of sufficient magnitude is levied, other countries will simply ignore the IP. One might argue this is a major danger to US power of Trump's protectionist stance on global trade. The USA is highly advanced and other countries accepting US IP is thus highly important to it. But the more trade barriers the USA puts up, the less motivation any country has to accept US intellectual property rights.

If China really wants chips enough and the West restricts it too much, it will simply make its own - reverse engineering them if it has to.
 

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Truth-in-advertising laws finally working, because both things produce shit.
 

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I honestly don't know how to feel about this:


Stacey Wales spent two years working on the victim impact statement she planned to give in court after her brother was shot to death in a 2021 road rage incident. But even after all that time, Wales felt her statement wouldn’t be enough to capture her brother Christopher Pelkey’s humanity and what he would’ve wanted to say.

So, Wales decided to let Pelkey give the statement himself — with the help of artificial intelligence.

She and her husband created an AI-generated video version of Pelkey to play during his killer’s sentencing hearing earlier this month that read, in a recreation of Pelkey’s own voice, a script that Wales wrote. In it, the AI version of Pelkey expressed forgiveness to the shooter, something Wales said she knew her brother would have done but she wasn’t ready to do herself just yet.
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
I honestly don't know how to feel about this:
I don't like it. For 1, it gives ai crap much more personality then it deserves, 2 it is what is essentially a fantasy statement admitted in court, 3 I think it is insulting to the dead to put words in their mouth.
 

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I don't like it. For 1, it gives ai crap much more personality then it deserves, 2 it is what is essentially a fantasy statement admitted in court, 3 I think it is insulting to the dead to put words in their mouth.
This. Seriously, it's a bad stunt when, say Kanye West got Robert Kardashian back from the dead to tell Kim Kardashian how nice it was she married someone wonderful like Kanye West, but in court? No...
 
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I honestly don't know how to feel about this:
It was bad enough when they were resurrecting dead Hollywood stars of yesteryear in CGI for adverts. It feels ghoulish to steal someone's essence that way.

I think if you could train an AI on someone and let the AI speak from its distillation of that person't history and thoughts, it might be better. As a vehicle for putting someone else's words forward, even those a loved relative with (we hope) good intentions, it feels a little like putting oneself forward at the dead person's expense.
 

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Because things just aren't bad enough: Trump's "big, beautiful bill" aims to impose a 10-year moratorium on any state laws regulating AI.


"This moratorium would mean that even if a company deliberately designs an algorithm that causes foreseeable harm ... the company making that bad tech would be unaccountable to lawmakers and the public."
WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?!
 

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Because things just aren't bad enough: Trump's "big, beautiful bill" aims to impose a 10-year moratorium on any state laws regulating AI.
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WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?!
It might be great for Big Tech profits - exempting companies from oversight, regulation, or the externalised costs of their activities usually is.
 
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It might be great for Big Tech profits - exempting companies from oversight, regulation, or the externalised costs of their activities usually is.
What's the bet that some of them manage to go bankrupt in the most hilariously foreseeable manner anyway?
 
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Because things just aren't bad enough: Trump's "big, beautiful bill" aims to impose a 10-year moratorium on any state laws regulating AI.




WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?!
The algorithm thing is already happening and you guys are already for letting it keep happening so why do you have a problem with that?

Also, AI is a joke, what do you think AI can do that you're so worried about?
 
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What's the bet that some of them manage to go bankrupt in the most hilariously foreseeable manner anyway?
The likes of Google, Meta, MS, Amazon are huge companies that subsidise their AI operations off the back of their other business. They're probably all backing AI not so much because they think they'll win but because it keeps them perceived as a "growth" stock that keeps their share price sky-high. They're probably more at risk from antitrust.

Then there's OpenAI. OpenAI is of course diversifying. OpenAI has bought Jony Ive's design company for $6 billion. That's on top of it announcing that it's got some social media app ready to go. It's obviously doing a lot more than making AI - it's turning itself into a much broader-based tech company, so even if AI doesn't work out, it's got something to keep going. OpenAI is going to get something like $20-40 billion in funding in 2025 and also make a massive loss. This guy thinks OpenAI could be sucking in and blowing up so much investment that it could pose a systemic risk to the entire tech sector (!)

Then there's everyone else. My understanding is "everyone else" - and this includes some pretty major outfits like xAI - are minnows, relatively. They're well behind the game. They're taking plenty of investor money collectively, although I'm betting you that, like OpenAI, plenty of that money isn't going on AI. They're probably diversifying their portfolios just like OpenAI is (note that Musk used xAI's money to pay off FKA Twitter's debt). They're going to get lucky or they'll fail.

One way or another I suspect there's plenty of bubble around AI. The sector is going to take a massive contraction somewhere down the line, and investors can say goodbye to a lot of their money. It's just a question of who is left standing at the end.
 
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I was in a meeting recently about how to deal with AI in Higher Education.

Some of the discussion was about how AI was the future, and the skill of the future was how we get AI to do what we want accurately, not to do anything ourselves, and we needed to get with the programme.

And part of me thought... how much is it the future?

So tech companies have started making AIs, and then they tell everyone that AI is the future, and the media report that AI is the future, and other businesses all integrate AI into all their processes (as it "hallucinates" errors or otherwise goes rogue), and so here we are stuck in this seemingly unstoppable situation, having to dance to the tune of something which, in the end, quite possibly hasn't even proven to us that it can do the work we want - either in terms of quality, or cost-effectiveness.
 
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I was in a meeting recently about how to deal with AI in Higher Education.

Some of the discussion was about how AI was the future, and the skill of the future was how we get AI to do what we want accurately, not to do anything ourselves, and we needed to get with the programme.

And part of me thought... how much is it the future?
Well, did anyone say it was a good future? Less flippantly, I fear it is the future, and we all are going to have to live with bucketloads of AI unintentional misinformation as well as the intentional stuff, for the rest of our lives. Damn techbros.

 
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