OK, let's choose our GOTY and our biggest disappointment of 2015

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Barbas said:
Most of the complaints I've heard about the game contradicted themselves and/or were little more than angry rants, some of them based on zero first-hand playtime. The series has changed too much from Fallout, yet at the same time it hasn't changed enough. Somebody even claimed the game was raped and called me an enabler for enjoying it. That is just a sad lack of perspective.

My guess is that the angry backlash and usual vitriol has been exacerbated by the marketing campaign and hype. I hope Bethesda doesn't listen to it, frankly, because a lot of it is just depressing bile. I did see some interesting comments about the FPS cap on another site, though. Maybe it's time to build an entirely new engine if this is stuff that's a concrete limitation of the current one; it's a lot of money to start over like that but I daresay they can afford the time and money now.
No offense, but I am calling bull and you are just a bit too excited about the game to consider any criticism valid
 

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GOTY for me would be Batman Arkham City, PC version. Because I'm hoping Warner Brothers got burned so badly on this they will actually put effort into future PC releases, and hopefully as a reminder to other developers about why you should finish your games before you release them.

In all seriousness GOTY has to be Undertale for me, no question about it.

Biggest dissapointment: ooooh boy so many things to choose from, I'm gonna have to go with "Star Wars: Battlefront" without any hint of irony this is the saddest a game has ever made me. I'm not angry, I'm not irritated or anything like that, just watching footage of it makes me feel legitimately depressed that this even carries the "Battlefront" name and that EA has an exclusive license on star wars games(look it up its from 2013 or something)

I know everybody is saying "be happy with what you get, the gameplay is good blah blah blah" but its not a battlefront game and since EA has the license for star wars games this is all we'll get, EA isn't going to release something like "Empire at war" or "Rogue Squadron" and if they do it'll be exactly the same as this: six maps and one of them is a lazy ass horde gamemode. $10 "digital deluxe edition" that only includes two emotes and unskinned guns you can get normally. Until this contract with EA is up they don't have to compete with star wars games period, so don't expect anything but EA riding the IP until "Star Wars game" is synonymous to "movie tie in"
 

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kenu12345 said:
No offense, but I am calling bull and you are just a bit too excited about the game to consider any criticism valid
Played it and enjoyed it so much that I'm corrupted, eh? Well, I've been in that mindset. Best of luck.
 

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Barbas said:
kenu12345 said:
No offense, but I am calling bull and you are just a bit too excited about the game to consider any criticism valid
Played it and enjoyed it so much that I'm corrupted, eh? Well, I've been in that mindset. Best of luck.
See that reaction is actually what I am talking bout. I find the game alright and its cool you like it, but damn has it made you reactionary. I was doubting the claim that you heard no legit criticisms based on the simple fact that you are overreactionary cause you love it right now thus you disregard them just like you just did with that statement, but hey keep acting like that. Real mature
 

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kenu12345 said:
Barbas said:
Most of the complaints I've heard about the game contradicted themselves and/or were little more than angry rants, some of them based on zero first-hand playtime. The series has changed too much from Fallout, yet at the same time it hasn't changed enough. Somebody even claimed the game was raped and called me an enabler for enjoying it. That is just a sad lack of perspective.

My guess is that the angry backlash and usual vitriol has been exacerbated by the marketing campaign and hype. I hope Bethesda doesn't listen to it, frankly, because a lot of it is just depressing bile. I did see some interesting comments about the FPS cap on another site, though. Maybe it's time to build an entirely new engine if this is stuff that's a concrete limitation of the current one; it's a lot of money to start over like that but I daresay they can afford the time and money now.
No offense, but I am calling bull and you are just a bit too excited about the game to consider any criticism valid
Maybe so, but I largely agree with him and have a whole laundry list of criticisms about the game myself (after clocking in over 30 hours so far). I think there's a lot of anti-hype going on, which is just as useless as the hype it's attempting to subvert. I think he's mainly calling out the sensational critics who haven't even played the game.

As to his point though, it has never been more apparent that Beth needs a new engine. One of the biggest criticisms I have heard that I wholeheartedly agree with is that the game feels dated, which is not good for a brand new game. Hopefully a healthy modding community will uplift it and Beth will learn from their mistakes. Chances are only one of those two things will happen, unfortunately.
 

kenu12345

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Fappy said:
kenu12345 said:
Barbas said:
Most of the complaints I've heard about the game contradicted themselves and/or were little more than angry rants, some of them based on zero first-hand playtime. The series has changed too much from Fallout, yet at the same time it hasn't changed enough. Somebody even claimed the game was raped and called me an enabler for enjoying it. That is just a sad lack of perspective.

My guess is that the angry backlash and usual vitriol has been exacerbated by the marketing campaign and hype. I hope Bethesda doesn't listen to it, frankly, because a lot of it is just depressing bile. I did see some interesting comments about the FPS cap on another site, though. Maybe it's time to build an entirely new engine if this is stuff that's a concrete limitation of the current one; it's a lot of money to start over like that but I daresay they can afford the time and money now.
No offense, but I am calling bull and you are just a bit too excited about the game to consider any criticism valid
Maybe so, but I largely agree with him and have a whole laundry list of criticisms about the game myself (after clocking in over 30 hours so far). I think there's a lot of anti-hype going on, which is just as useless as the hype it's attempting to subvert. I think he's mainly calling out the sensational critics who haven't even played the game.

As to his point though, it has never been more apparent that Beth needs a new engine. One of the biggest criticisms I have heard that I wholeheartedly agree with is that the game feels dated, which is not good for a brand new game. Hopefully a healthy modding community will uplift it and Beth will learn from their mistakes. Chances are only one of those two things will happen, unfortunately.
And I am not disagreeing with that, I just think he is displaying the opposite himself by claiming there is no valid one. Either way, I feel this would be the wrong place to discuss this as I feel I already went on longer than I should have bout this here. Lets try to get this related to the actual topic ^^
 

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kenu12345 said:
Barbas said:
kenu12345 said:
No offense, but I am calling bull and you are just a bit too excited about the game to consider any criticism valid
Played it and enjoyed it so much that I'm corrupted, eh? Well, I've been in that mindset. Best of luck.
See that reaction is actually what I am talking bout. I find the game alright and its cool you like it, but damn has it made you reactionary. I was doubting the claim that you heard no legit criticisms based on the simple fact that you are overreactionary cause you love it right now thus you disregard them just like you just did with that statement, but hey keep acting like that. Real mature
You comment about his mildly sarcastic reaction to your direct comment about his personal reaction to something You did the internet equivalent of saying "bullshit" to his face, and then saying he's an over excited fanboy. What kind of reaction did you expect? Frankly, I think you're lucky all he did was give you a little bit of snark after saying such a directly insulting comment. Somehow, that comment is labeled as "reactionary" by you? I think you need to recalculate your sliding scale of reactions based, that was hardly anything at all other than a sarcastic comeback.
 

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The main games I've been playing this year were Binding of Isaac, Nuclear Throne, Team Fortress 2, Wolfenstein: The Old Blood, a bit of Terraria 1.3, and right now Fallout 4. Only three of the games were released in 2015.

GOTY: Fallout 4 because I'm a gigantic shill.

Disappointment: Binding of Isaac: Afterbirth for giving okay content, nerfing some of the fun stuff, holding back patches for Rebirth that don't have Afterbirth, and the dev being extremely cagey and releasing DLC content later, saying Afterbirth was bugged/not finished/untested (despite the DLC being almost a year of work, 9 months of dev blogs, and being pushed back from the Summer 2015 release date) or as an ARG so we have to wait (as of typing) two weeks to play the full content of a DLC we've already paid almost $7 or even $10 for.

If they released 100% of Afterbirth and paraded the rest of the content as a free update ARG I'd say power to them. But the fact that most of these content additions revolve around owning Afterbirth (since they mostly involve Greed Mode).

Just don't make sense why they're doing this other than releasing the DLC early despite it being unfinished.

EDIT: Actually I take that back. Disappointment of the year and probably the next few years goes to Payday. How Overkill turned a unique PC game with a devoted fanbase into a disgusting example of microtransactions gone wrong with probably hundreds of thousands of fans turning their back on the game overnight, then they trashed the game's already weird balance even further, then they turned a deaf ear to the outcry of microtransactions calling it already successful and all naysayers (including those who made a splinter community based around preserving the update before the game went south) were a vocal minority, then this week they released skins that actually give you boosts to your XP and rewards.

In the space of one month, the game went from being a unique experience "PC mustard race" game to almost mobile game standards of microtransactions and P2W. Overkill did more than shoot themselves in the foot. I very well believe they've committed corporate suicide, and it's going to be a slow and gradual suicide until they're bought out (and hopefully lead by someone different because Almir or whoever else obviously don't have the game or community's interest at heart) or outright go bankrupt.

To paraphrase Jim Sterling on the situation: "Don't make me regret liking you." And they totally are making that their mission.
 

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My game of the year is... and hold on to your pants cuz I'm probably the only one who's going to say it, is Evolve. I haven't had this much fun with a game in a LONG time, and its a breath of fresh air in a AAA market that loves to do the same thing over and over again. Here I get a truly skill-based asymmetrical game, with a lot more depth and complexity then a lot people ever gave it credit for, and often gave reviews with flat out false information. (looking at you Angry Joe with your "Wraith is pay to win" crap. She's in the base game and unlockable after a few games and has been rebalanced appropriately)

Granted I haven't gotten around to Witcher 3 yet, so its entirely possible that would supplant Evolve in my favorites.

Biggest Disappointment? Akrham Knight. Game still barely works on PC, and half the game is that fucking bat-tank which gets really boring really fast.
 

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Is.... Tales From the Borderlands a thing? I mean, I know it was TECHNICALLY released last year but it wasn't FINISHED 'til this year and.... God I can't believe it but the only other game from this year that I've played is Undertale and hype ruined it for me.

So yeah! MY GOTY is Tales From the Borderlands. HA! HA HA! What's everyone gotta say about THAT? . . . . I'll just leave the way I came in. //drags Troy Baker behind me

Also most disappointing goes to Undertale because it's not as great as everyone says SORRYYYYY
 

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GOTY: Witcher 3. I've posted on threads before about "what is your dream game?" and I always said "a Bioware quality story in a Bethesda quality open world". Never thought it was actually possible, but CD Projekt pulled it off. Interesting characters and dialogue, fun, tactical combat system, and the best side quests ever that actually had properly fleshed out stories of their own.

Biggest disappointment: Batman Arkham Knight (PC). Loved Asylum and City, Origins was okay. Can't even be bothered with Knight because I don't play games that are broken pieces of shit.
 

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Game of the Year: None.

No, really. None. There hasn't been a single game this year that has "wowed" me. And I'm not saying that to be contrarian or 'edgy'. I genuinely mean what I say.

Fallout 4 is an outdated mess. The Witcher 3 was pretty but hollow. Metal Gear Solid V was dumb. Evolve was barely a game. Batman was broken. Halo 5 is decent at best. Undertale was funny but not that mind-blowing. Splatoon wasn't great. Super Mario Maker was pointless. Syndicate is dull. Black Ops 3 is just sort of there. Life is Strange made me cringe.

It's just....not a single triple-A game, nor even many games from smaller devs, really did much for me this year. Grey Goo was alright, I suppose, as was Oblitus, but otherwise? Egh.

Maybe I'm forgetting a game that was loads of fun, but it can't have been too memorable if that's the case.

Oh well. I know that makes me sound like a whiny cynic, and maybe I am, but it's how I felt this year.

That said, next year's looking a bit better for me. No Man's Sky, Hob, Routine, Firewatch, etc. Here's hoping something turns out great.
 

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Joccaren said:
For most people, CD PR and Witcher 3 did it better.
Most people didn't buy Witcher 3 because they're well-aware of what broken shit every game CD Projekt pushes out.

But you have idiots who worship them out of a sad attempt to spite another developer because that developer wouldn't kiss their asses when those idiots threatened to kill them unless they changed their game. So Witcher 3 fans are sad, pathetic trolls.
And once again, you're talking Bethesda games. People avoid them because they are buggy and broken. CD PR actually got props for being surprisingly bug free at launch... In all their games that I've played too. And funnily enough, most people did end up buying Witcher 3, because they heard how amazing it was, and thousands of people who had never heard of the games before came in and bought the whole series. I would know. I was in the stores.

I get you love Betheseda, but they've been outplayed this time. It ain't about changing the game, its about making a good game to start with. Bethesda make passable games - again, wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle. CD PR? They made something wide and deep, moreso than has been done before in gaming. Content to match an MMO, open world, and dialogue and story that put fan-favourite Bioware to shame. Helps they had a book series to work off, but they created a masterpiece.

In terms of open world games, CD PR is king at this point. Maybe Bethesda will release something to rival them, but it'd surprise me. Their style of game is wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle. And believe it or not, people are getting tired of that.
 

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GOTY- starcraft 2: legacy of the void- great single player story and the multiplayer is the best its ever been.

biggest disappointment- halo 5; don't get me wrong still loved the game but I guess I could say I expected more.

as to why fallout 4 and witcher 3 are not even in the running;

1. fallout 4 hasn't released yet as far as im concerned as Bethesda will take 6 months to fix all their bugs.

2. witcher 3 has the unfortunate fate of coming out after DA:I which kinda burnt me out on fantasy RPGs so could bring myself to really play more then 5 hours before it got sidelined.
 

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I think it should be mentioned for anybody considering their biggest disappointment: Payday 2, it's gotten so bad over there that the steam moderators for that forum are on strike and they just implemented MORE stat increasing skins.
 

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I don't want to jump on any band wagons but damn witcher 3 is good, I'm struggling with the combat (I am trying to play it like shadows of mordor) and the "I have to finish this animation before dodging" is really fucking me up. I need to take a much more considered style to play this game but so far I am just save scumming.

I am surprised I like this so much after I couldn't even begin to play witcher 2.

Disappointment would be MGSV. I'm an MGS fanboy and I want my story damnit!
 

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Charcharo said:
-Ezio- said:
Charcharo said:
GOTY:
Witcher 3. A game that made me see how far gaming has gone, and how inferior it still is to literature. A cold but beautiful shower.

Dissapointed:
Fallout 4- Bethesda can not code for shit and their fans still defend the incompetence. Insulting really.
isnt that a bit harsh? far as i can tell fallout 4 has no more bugs than witcher 3 had at launch. hell witcher 3 still has quests i cant complete.
Nope. It is me being nice to Fallout 4.
The game is released in an alpha stage.

This is Bethesda?s fourth time. And the SAME damned mistakes. Not new ones. Not old ones. The same. Ohh and one more (or at least more sever than before) ? terrible performance on all hardware, but worst on AMD and consoles. GG.

Lets see:
-No FOV slider. One of the rare times this affected me? why cant it be in an options menu?
-Mouse acceleration and smoothing. Why can I not turn them on and off in a menu? Why is it on by default?
-Vsyncs to either 30 or 60. Why is this not an option? Why can it not be like in the Witcher 3? Why can I not set it on/off and also choose a cap to my frame rate? Why is this not in the options menu?
-Game logic is tied to frame rate. This? is amateurish. FFS, this is a rookie mistake, why did it happen to a AAA game in 2015?

Add in:
- Bad selection of gameworks features. That AND bad implementation. This is crippling to AMD users? and the saddest thing is, games like Metro Last Light STILL have better god rays and illumination. Except they dont cripple neither AMD nor Nvidia hardware with it.
Speaking of which, even Nvidia cards with the latest drivers are having issues with these features. Not as severe as AMD, true, but ? it is not well either.

- Bad CPU utilization.

- Despite all of these optimization issues, the game does not look good. In many areas, STALKER from 2007 and 2008 actually is objectively superior (graphical fidelity, not art style, that is subjective and dont confuse the two). FO4′s AI is absolutely abysmal. This is not an issue ? the fact that it runs this badly though, whilst having nothing to show for it? that is a problem.

This is acceptable once. Or from a smaller studio with little money. Or a young studio at least. Bethesda is neither of those.

To top it all of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPZXkdD1RwQ
And
http://wccftech.com/bethesdas-pete-hines-reacts-fallout-4-ps4xo-performance-reports/
And
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15wOp7_dD8E
And this:
http://imgur.com/a/rdvK4

Jesus Christ Bethesda are morons. Witcher 3 is simply MUCH better of a release. Even if it had faults, those are small compared to this level of stupidity.
Oh hey it's this post again. Tell me - do you have it saved in a Word document or do you have to go hunting through your posts every time someone says "don't you think you're being a bit of a diva?"
 

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GOTY: Tales of Zestiria

Biggest Disappointment: I haven't played Tales of Zestiria yet...

Well, shit... This is [still] a conundrum... Uh... I guess you say 2015 was pretty uneventful for me in the realm of new video games...
I'm the same as this. I just ordered the PS4 version of Zestiria and would like to withhold judgement until I finish it.

So my goty so far is Metal Gear Solid the Phantom pain: It's unfinished, a bit samey, lacking in metal gear humor and Snake is basically mute. But it was still a cracking piece of gameplay and had a gigantic amount of stuff to see and do. It had some seriously emotional bits and it was ultimately a very interesting game to play. It just doesn't seem very much like a metal gear game.

Runners up:
Resident evil revelations 2: A great survival horror. The revalations side series is now officially better than the main series. The only disappointing thing was the main villain.

Toukiden kiwami: Sony may have lost monster hunter to the 3DS. But Koei have gifted them with a technically superior series in Toukiden. It has a story, an interesting supporting class, reasonable difficulty level, Japanese hero ghosts and a hot spring. The only thing monster hunter has over toukiden is that it has cool armor. Toukiden's armor is awful and the creatures you kill don't look as cool either.

Splatoon: I usually hate team based shooters. But covering the floor in ink is fun, my squid girl is cute, sliding around in ink feels great and you don't actually have to kill other players to win. You can focus entirely on making a mess. It's a clever take on the genre and once again nintendo have got it right on their first try. Thank god it wasn't yet another damn mario game.
 

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StarCraft 2 is the only game released in 2015 I'll have personally played by years end (I own it but haven't started it yet). So by default it wins GOTY and Biggest Disappointment.

I have watched entire lets plays of a few story focused games like Undertale, Life is Strange and Until Dawn though. Among them the biggest disappointment was Life is Strange. Life is Strange had me HOOKED for the first 3 episodes but just lost me and ultimately annoyed me by the end. It reminds me of watching LOST actually. I only stuck with Life is Strange's 5th episode because I was committed at that point. Any joy or intrigue was gone. It's a real shame because of how fantastic the game was from the start.

If persistent games counted than I'd give GOTY to Marvel Puzzle Quest for being the main game I played all year.

The best AAA game I've played this year is definitely Dishonored. Had this sitting in my steam backlog for a long time now and the game is incredible. It far exceeded my expectations simply by living up to the original hype of it's release. Very few games live up to the hype in my experience. Loved it.
 

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Charcharo said:
Thyunda said:
Charcharo said:
-Ezio- said:
Charcharo said:
GOTY:
Witcher 3. A game that made me see how far gaming has gone, and how inferior it still is to literature. A cold but beautiful shower.

Dissapointed:
Fallout 4- Bethesda can not code for shit and their fans still defend the incompetence. Insulting really.
isnt that a bit harsh? far as i can tell fallout 4 has no more bugs than witcher 3 had at launch. hell witcher 3 still has quests i cant complete.
Nope. It is me being nice to Fallout 4.
The game is released in an alpha stage.

This is Bethesda?s fourth time. And the SAME damned mistakes. Not new ones. Not old ones. The same. Ohh and one more (or at least more sever than before) ? terrible performance on all hardware, but worst on AMD and consoles. GG.

Lets see:
-No FOV slider. One of the rare times this affected me? why cant it be in an options menu?
-Mouse acceleration and smoothing. Why can I not turn them on and off in a menu? Why is it on by default?
-Vsyncs to either 30 or 60. Why is this not an option? Why can it not be like in the Witcher 3? Why can I not set it on/off and also choose a cap to my frame rate? Why is this not in the options menu?
-Game logic is tied to frame rate. This? is amateurish. FFS, this is a rookie mistake, why did it happen to a AAA game in 2015?

Add in:
- Bad selection of gameworks features. That AND bad implementation. This is crippling to AMD users? and the saddest thing is, games like Metro Last Light STILL have better god rays and illumination. Except they dont cripple neither AMD nor Nvidia hardware with it.
Speaking of which, even Nvidia cards with the latest drivers are having issues with these features. Not as severe as AMD, true, but ? it is not well either.

- Bad CPU utilization.

- Despite all of these optimization issues, the game does not look good. In many areas, STALKER from 2007 and 2008 actually is objectively superior (graphical fidelity, not art style, that is subjective and dont confuse the two). FO4′s AI is absolutely abysmal. This is not an issue ? the fact that it runs this badly though, whilst having nothing to show for it? that is a problem.

This is acceptable once. Or from a smaller studio with little money. Or a young studio at least. Bethesda is neither of those.

To top it all of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPZXkdD1RwQ
And
http://wccftech.com/bethesdas-pete-hines-reacts-fallout-4-ps4xo-performance-reports/
And
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15wOp7_dD8E
And this:
http://imgur.com/a/rdvK4

Jesus Christ Bethesda are morons. Witcher 3 is simply MUCH better of a release. Even if it had faults, those are small compared to this level of stupidity.
Oh hey it's this post again. Tell me - do you have it saved in a Word document or do you have to go hunting through your posts every time someone says "don't you think you're being a bit of a diva?"
Sometimes, a point has to be hammered. Hard.

And since this is... pretty much a good post (maybe with a bit too much hate, that much I admit), it seems to recap some of the games objective problems.

I'd also add the UI and menus now. After 30 hours in the game, this shit still annoys me greatly. Bethesda will never. Ever. Learn less they are confronted with their shit
It's not a great post, mate, most of your gripes can be countered with "play it on console and you won't even notice" or "stop being such a fussybollocks."
And you're not gonna do a great job of confronting Bethesda "with their shit" if you open your angry rant with "After thirty hours of your videogame I'm here to tell you it's badly made and I hate it and you're all incompetent." See, now, I am an incompetent coder. As in I literally haven't got a clue how to do it. If you can spend thirty hours in a game, it wasn't incompetently coded. I don't know what standards you've got yourself stuck into, but lots of games have campaigns that run from eight to twelve hours and sometimes I even don't make it to the end of those because they're linear and boring - so you've essentially played through the 'runtime' of three AAA shooters and still believe you've been given a faulty product made by incompetent developers.

Do you see the total detachment from logic here? If you can bring yourself to play thirty hours of an incompetently coded game, how bad does it have to be before you will simply not make it past the first two hours? Do you really have so much spare time you consider thirty hours an acceptable trial period?

Seriously dude, hyperbole isn't cool.

Though, speaking of hyperbole, my GOTY is The Witcher 3 because it's literally the greatest game I've ever played. I've almost finished my degree in history and creative writing and I was shocked, shocked I tell you, that The Hunger Games is on the reading list for one of the modules I didn't take and yet the Fantasy module hasn't got a single sniff of Sapkowski. Now I love Sapkowski's books, and I love The Witcher 3. I think the facial animations are detailed and yet subtle enough to make up for Geralt's deliberately robotic voice, and the costume design is...well...like I said, my other focus is history and I cannot tell you how bored I am with the standard fantasy tropes of plate armour/leather armour/mage robes. Most of the NPCs in this game could've wandered out of 13th century Europe no bother.
The plot itself is pretty average, but then plots can only be average, since they're the meat base for your broth and really how can you tell the difference between pork and beef when you've got the rest of the ingredients in? Though Ciri's actress sounds like she's constantly shouting across the room to deliver her lines, Ciri is distinctly not shit, and that means a lot to me. Especially in a series like The Witcher whose first introduction to the fairer sex was trading cards.
I really didn't like the first two games. I played the second when it was free on Xbox Gold and found it mind-numbingly dull. The combat felt awkward, the inventory didn't even try to be functional and Geralt's face was apparently carved from stone and covered in beige wallpaper. The first game I got on a Steam sale and I think I've made it to the swamp region outside Vizima and it's just...so...dull.
Plus Geralt looks so damn weird. Soooo bloody strange. How this ever became the cult hit that led ultimately to the work of art that was The Wild Hunt I will never know.

And as a final note - the Ladies of the Wood are some of my favourite villains of all time. Eredin was cliché as fuck, and I almost wince every time I hear "you humans are so impractical." But the Ladies, with their Welsh accent and beautiful theme music, those are villains that last. Hell, that whole arc with the Brummie Baron was more than enough to place this story above most of the ones I have to study for my course.