Oklahoma Ponders Violent Videogame Tax
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there are far more silly state laws than silly federal laws. i didnt mean to say the federal government goes by immaculate, its just that it has many more eyes on it, while state affairs usually dont even care to ask the public about stuff, and they come n go on a whim, while on a federal level, you get a big slow dragging process to get anything done. im not saying federal makes evth right, the fact that SOPA is even discussed for this long without being put down like the monstrosity it is sooner, shows that, but still...i see far stupider things happening on a state level. at least the wars are debatable(except iraq war 2, that was just idiotic.)Baresark said:
A tax on videogames to fund important projects is one thing. At face value it's no different than a tax on anything else. A more cynical angle, it's a tax on a big business that they want more out of than sales tax. Yeah, no one likes it, but it's harder to challenge "money has to come from somewhere".
Which makes you wonder why on earth he even add the blaming videogames as the source of two largely anomolus probles. Bulling has been around as long as we know, and there has never been an acceptible source. Obesity is a vastly bigger issue that swallows up excessive gaming among a couple hundred other facets.
To attack videogames says Representative Fourkiller is either displaying ignorance (clumsily spun to look like forethought), or a desire to target games as evil in world when the BIG laws are out of bounds (clumsily spun to look like concern). Attacking videogames as something to be purged or punished used to be an easy lay for the politically minded. But ever since Supreme Court ruled in our favor, they don't have that anymore. I certain some only aimed that way because it was a low hanging fruit, but there must be those with a genuine malice towards games and they have to find someway to use their power against their enemy. Even as superficially as a justification.
On the other hand, pulling the Games are the Problem card in his justification probably tripled the opposition so perhaps it is ignorance.
Which makes you wonder why on earth he even add the blaming videogames as the source of two largely anomolus probles. Bulling has been around as long as we know, and there has never been an acceptible source. Obesity is a vastly bigger issue that swallows up excessive gaming among a couple hundred other facets.
To attack videogames says Representative Fourkiller is either displaying ignorance (clumsily spun to look like forethought), or a desire to target games as evil in world when the BIG laws are out of bounds (clumsily spun to look like concern). Attacking videogames as something to be purged or punished used to be an easy lay for the politically minded. But ever since Supreme Court ruled in our favor, they don't have that anymore. I certain some only aimed that way because it was a low hanging fruit, but there must be those with a genuine malice towards games and they have to find someway to use their power against their enemy. Even as superficially as a justification.
On the other hand, pulling the Games are the Problem card in his justification probably tripled the opposition so perhaps it is ignorance.
Wait. So he is saying the reason I was bullied as a kid and the reason all kids are fat is because of violent video games?
Explain my childhood then fucker. We did not have violent video games back then yet I got bullied and there were fat kids everywhere.
Plus Teen, Mature, Adults Only... What the fuck do these games have to do with kids?
Now I am not against taxes per se, if they really are put to good use then I am all for them. I am not one of those morons who want everything to be better, better law enforcement, better schools, better healthcare etc, then whine like a **** when they say they will have to raise taxes to cover the cost. I understand that shit costs money. But don't try to fucking bullshit us and use scapegoats just to further your own career asshole.
How about this. Any politician who comes out and suggests such shit to "protect our kids" then has to give up 5-10% of their pay check which will be donated to these charities.
Explain my childhood then fucker. We did not have violent video games back then yet I got bullied and there were fat kids everywhere.
Plus Teen, Mature, Adults Only... What the fuck do these games have to do with kids?
Now I am not against taxes per se, if they really are put to good use then I am all for them. I am not one of those morons who want everything to be better, better law enforcement, better schools, better healthcare etc, then whine like a **** when they say they will have to raise taxes to cover the cost. I understand that shit costs money. But don't try to fucking bullshit us and use scapegoats just to further your own career asshole.
How about this. Any politician who comes out and suggests such shit to "protect our kids" then has to give up 5-10% of their pay check which will be donated to these charities.
In other news, the Secret World Leader wants to impose a tax on zimmers to help fight cancer, terrorism and world hunger.
Yes everyone, let's stop childhood obesity and bullying by taxing items that children are not supposed to have. Hell, let's throw an extra tax on alcohol to cut down on underage drinking! That'll work, right?
The logic of this proposal is making my brain hurt.
Of course most smart bullies will hire accountants in order write off tax as a business expense.
Of course most smart bullies will hire accountants in order write off tax as a business expense.
Yeah because obviously kids can't get fat when playing Little Big Planet because there's no violence in it!
You know this is why I get so pissed off about the freakishly overblown taxes for smokers because even if I'm NOT a smoker, the fact that the government is allowed to do that to smokers is precendent for them to add outrageous taxes to anything the government thinks is bad. We demonize smokers so it's okay to tax the fuck out of them. They've got the demonization of video gamers down and so I wouldn't be surprised if that it was just a matter of time before that 60 dollar video game is now 100 dollars because you have to pay the government to have it!
You know this is why I get so pissed off about the freakishly overblown taxes for smokers because even if I'm NOT a smoker, the fact that the government is allowed to do that to smokers is precendent for them to add outrageous taxes to anything the government thinks is bad. We demonize smokers so it's okay to tax the fuck out of them. They've got the demonization of video gamers down and so I wouldn't be surprised if that it was just a matter of time before that 60 dollar video game is now 100 dollars because you have to pay the government to have it!
Why does no one (except for us gamers and a few non-gamers, obviously) understand the rating system? Would these people take their young children to a PG-13 or R rated move? Of course not. Games shouldn't be regarded any different. Younger kids shouldn't play or be allowed to play the more mature games until they've reached the recommended age and demonstrated emotional maturity. It's not that difficult to understand, parents and politicians of the world. Taxes like this wouldn't be necessary if you and your children followed the ESRB's system.xedobubble said:
But alas, I'm only beating a dead horse with the classic argument. They won't fucking listen to people like me.
Unfortunately, the folks who make the laws and the folks who vote for the folks who make those laws really don't think that deeply. The association is simple, video games are for kids. All of them. Despite how much it's been mainstreamed, that's still the stereotype. So any video game targeted at people ages 16+ obviously is being freely sold to kids, because it's a video game.TLS14 said:
Of course. It's only natural that games are exclusively played by kids, right? I mean adults [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball] don't [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball] ever [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football] play [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football] games [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess], right?Moosejaw said:
Video games are a lot like competitive sports or board games. They're played for the recreation of the participants, regardless of said participants' ages. They're just played through a different medium, an electronic one. That's the only difference (aside from fitness reasons in the sport argument, obviously). Wake up and look at the facts, society.