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- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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I actually find it hilarious how much hate mail you get from fans. The intent behind ZP is half video game reviews and half humor, if you don't get that, watch something more serious, like a Law and Order re-run or those cunts on Jersey Shore.
Well I would have to agree on this stance. I normally play games to have fun. That is why in WoW I have never joined a raid and I have never joined arena. Too much epeen flexing. And elitists. I just like messing around, doing the odd battle ground every now and then.
But I am fine when jumping into the fray of something like Team Fortress 2. Most servers that I tend to join are pretty good and have polite people so when a team is losing people still have a go or at least try to do something funny. All heavy rushes are always fun.
Starcraft is probable as close to competitive as I get, but I still do not join many melee modes. Mainly Used Game Settings where it changes the game completely.
But I am fine when jumping into the fray of something like Team Fortress 2. Most servers that I tend to join are pretty good and have polite people so when a team is losing people still have a go or at least try to do something funny. All heavy rushes are always fun.
Starcraft is probable as close to competitive as I get, but I still do not join many melee modes. Mainly Used Game Settings where it changes the game completely.
I'm very similar. I rarely play competitive multiplayer games anymore except for Black Ops and MW2 on occasion. I also am much more co-op based. I loved playing L4D and still enjoy TF2 when I can and especially enjoy Horde mode in GoW2. I used to be very into the competitive games like Duke Nukem, Command and Conquer, etc, but when I quickly realized I wasn't one of the better players out there I decided that constantly losing wasn't so much fun, and being taunted during it didn't do much either.
I usually love competitive games. I play racing games, fighters, shooters, whatever online. I've had a blast with quite a lot of different online games over the years. Having said that, I loathe the competitive aspects of WoW.
But what Yahtzee said up there about being "half" competitive is sort of how I feel about Brotherhood's multiplayer. It's fun as hell, but every game mode is the same exact mechanic with different teams, causing me to enjoying only sparingly. It certainly does help me vent my frustrations on other people, though, but it really doesn't give me the drive to finish first, so I generally don't give a shit about my score.
Having said that, I'll be damned if I finish last, though.
But what Yahtzee said up there about being "half" competitive is sort of how I feel about Brotherhood's multiplayer. It's fun as hell, but every game mode is the same exact mechanic with different teams, causing me to enjoying only sparingly. It certainly does help me vent my frustrations on other people, though, but it really doesn't give me the drive to finish first, so I generally don't give a shit about my score.
Having said that, I'll be damned if I finish last, though.
ewhac said:
I will agree that everyone would prefer to win, but that isn't the nature of the beast. It is competitive thus there will be those who have to lose. When I play CoD with my friend, I know one of us has to lose and I know going into it, it will probably be me. Even every online match I don't win most of them unlike my friend. I rarely see him lose and even then he places. However, I don't let it get under my skin - thus the term "hate". I can still enjoy playing just like if I win a whole bunch of matches, I don't think much of it. Yeah, I enjoy winning but I enjoy all the stuff that takes place between the countdown of the match to the last ticks of the clock more than the victory itself. If I have a successful camp going and someone pulls some sly crap and manages to kill my killstreak sometimes I applaud them for it. However, they usually don't hear me because I don't play with a mic.TerranReaper said:
My brother yelled a statement I found funny at my fighting nieces playing their Wii this very weekend that just passed. "Winning isn't important, but playing to win is important." Then me and him laughed right after it and discussed the paradox. The nature of a competitive game is to play to win as claiming a victor is what the game is the purpose of the game. However, it is a game at its roots thus most pleasure from it should be had by participating, not mostly being the victor. It's the whole basis of the statement that "It doesn't matter if you win or lose, it's how you play the game."
I think I may have run into that **** from Illinois in, of all games, APB. I'd just lost a close mission which had ended up with me standing near a few members of the opposite team. Before I had a chance to run back to my car, this conversation occured:
Opposing player: "you mad, [my character name]?"
Me: "Naw, it was a close game, lots of fun."
Opposing player: "
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Which is the only type of person worse than the "my victories define me as a person" player- the player who only gets off on ruining the fun of others. If only we could lock those two types away on their own private servers and enjoy playing with normal people....
While I do sometimes play directly-competitive multiplayer, I much prefer co-op. I do very little PvP in WoW and prefer group or 10-man dungeon runs, and I'd really rather play L4D than MW. It's just more entertaining and engaging to me to work with others towards a goal than to mindlessly claw my way to the top of some scoreboard.
Opposing player: "you mad, [my character name]?"
Me: "Naw, it was a close game, lots of fun."
Opposing player: "
"Which is the only type of person worse than the "my victories define me as a person" player- the player who only gets off on ruining the fun of others. If only we could lock those two types away on their own private servers and enjoy playing with normal people....
While I do sometimes play directly-competitive multiplayer, I much prefer co-op. I do very little PvP in WoW and prefer group or 10-man dungeon runs, and I'd really rather play L4D than MW. It's just more entertaining and engaging to me to work with others towards a goal than to mindlessly claw my way to the top of some scoreboard.
His siblings- Emoskirt and Ragesocks- really didn't fare any better.Gruchul said:
Hating losing doesn't even make you competitive at all. Actually it makes you look like a poor sport. And it keeps you from being objective, and blaming cheating/being cheap/ insert excuse here instead of analyzing why you lost. Understanding a hard fought loss is a much more meaningful then an empty win.
This thread is filled with good examples of the douchey behavior that comes about from people in competitive gameplay. That left for dead story above is a very common situation. Check out the WoW pvp forums for numerous examples of people behaving like dickwits in order to big note themselves.
That said, many, if not all of the most exiting a fun filled moments I've had in any game have come from multiplayer. There is something about matching skills with other people that I dont think any AI will ever be able to match. Just so long as they are not douchebags. Sadly however they seem to be the rule rather than the exception and they appear to training the new generations in the same douchebaggery.
Another example of the poor outcomes that can come from competitive gameplay with people who desire to win at any cost is cheap tatics being used in the games. If some weapon or skill makes it into a game imbalanced, bugged or overpowered you can bet that that advantage will be taken and exploited for all it's worth with a negative effect of the quality of the gameplay.
I think multiplayer is where it's at and will continue to be. Just with your friends and established communities of the like minded. Making sure to steer clear of the whooting dickbags of the general populace.
That said, many, if not all of the most exiting a fun filled moments I've had in any game have come from multiplayer. There is something about matching skills with other people that I dont think any AI will ever be able to match. Just so long as they are not douchebags. Sadly however they seem to be the rule rather than the exception and they appear to training the new generations in the same douchebaggery.
Another example of the poor outcomes that can come from competitive gameplay with people who desire to win at any cost is cheap tatics being used in the games. If some weapon or skill makes it into a game imbalanced, bugged or overpowered you can bet that that advantage will be taken and exploited for all it's worth with a negative effect of the quality of the gameplay.
I think multiplayer is where it's at and will continue to be. Just with your friends and established communities of the like minded. Making sure to steer clear of the whooting dickbags of the general populace.
I have the opposite.
I enjoy winning but don't care about losing (unless it's to someone who's smug)
allows me to enjoy multiplayer a lot.
I enjoy winning but don't care about losing (unless it's to someone who's smug)
allows me to enjoy multiplayer a lot.
I was 11th in the world on N+, that's 11th out of hundreds of thousands. Why? Because I really loved that game. I loved how people died in the game! Now days with the new maps and stuff I'd probably be in the top 300 only tho. Still, good times were always had with 3 friends and N+.
Personally, i feel the same way about competitive video games. While i enjoyed them back in the day when i had no responsibilities besides completing homework assignments and continuing to breathe; the problem is that i have so much other stuff going on that i don't have the time to dedicate to play one game for hours on end until i've memorized all the spawn points and know what all the best weapons are. I like co-op games for the fact that if you're playing with an all-star it helps the team; but if you're playing against an all-star he'll just keep spawn raping you until you get fed up with his endless banter about how he has no life and you leave.
Totally agree. Shame about douche bagssenataur said:
. Starcraft II is awesome to play online. It's simple enough for every one to get and complex enough to have real depth. Usually people are really nice, simply saying gg if you win or lose. However I played a group of real gits, who while better than me just were rude about it, swearing till the cows came home and mocking us behind their screen names. They were the kind of people that took a constructive argument and just said "F***k you NUUUUUB"... Charming.If you are reading this and are one of those players, your not big, your not clever and really need to raise your self-esteem in a more constructive way that isn't doing down other members of the human race