On The 'Friend Zone'...

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Eggsnham

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I'm feeling incredibly cynical today. Those of you who roam the Religion and Politics forum may have already seen this.

Anywho, I'm going to make a thread about the much talked about "Friend Zone".

It may be the fiftieth relationship related thread this week; and I'm fairly sure that I made a thread about the mythical "Friend Zone" a while ago; but I don't remember doing so and I don't like the search bar. It says unkind things about my mother.

So, in the words of Mario - plumber and vertical jump extraordinaire; "Let's a go!"

The "Friend Zone": It doesn't exist. It's more or less a way for girls (and less commonly, guys) to say "I think you have a good personality; but I wouldn't even let you touch me if I were drunk." Think about it; if you were in her position; and let's say that you were attracted to yourself while in her position; would you be objected to dating yourself? You should be; because that's weird; but if you truly were her, and you were attracted to what used to be you; then you probably wouldn't have a problem going out with that person.

The human mind of the male and female are both scarily different, and scarily alike. What this means; is that some of the stuff will be open to changing around based on your actual thoughts, but that for the most part; it holds true.

Honesty is Overrated: Chances are that if you're lumped in the "Friend Zone" (which I will now call the "Female Weapon of Mass Male Confusion" or "FWMMC" - not to be confused with boobs or cleavage) you actually are on a sort of friendly level with this girl; but one thing that we don't know; is whether or not she's actually attracted.

I mean; blatant attraction is easy to pick up on; but subtle attraction (i.e. She likes you; but not enough to show signs of blatant attraction. But she still likes you) is not. Of course; every male thinks that every female has either blatant or subtle attraction to them; so that doesn't help much either. But the fact that girls will never tell you whether or not they like you kinda creates a "getting dressed in the dark" effect. And she may already have the final stage of the FWMMC targeting you.

Cold, stinging rejection: If you've ever heard any lines that are similar to:

"You're like a brother to me!"

"I just wanna stay friends."

"You're funny and fun to talk to, what if a relationship ruined that?"

"No, I don't like you like that."

After asking a girl out, you've been hit by the FWMMC. After this; typical side effects of this are a bruised ego; unwillingness to talk to that particular girl again and sore throat.

Which is what she wants; she'll probably not call you or want to hang out after that. And she'll probably begin dating a man with several tattoos and a motorcycle.

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At the end of the day; the "Friend Zone" doesn't exist. It's a well intentioned tool of rejection. Of course, it's good intention does nothing; in fact, it even hurts more sometimes.

But to give the girls the benefit of the doubt; sometimes you just don't want to date someone because you've known them for so long.

[small]But most of the time; that's not case.[/small]

Discussion: What do you think about the "Friend Zone"?
 

Outright Villainy

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Well yeah, usually when girls say they don't want a relationship in case it ruins the friendship, they're just lying to spare some feelings. After all, the guy doing the chasing has no such qualms, and unless you've been good friends for years, the friendship would hardly be that sacred to anyone. I think people should be a little more honest and say "Well, no, I don't have those kind of feelings for you, and probably never will." Not for harshness sake, but to crush any lingering doubts that "Our friendship is too important" will plant in the rejectee's mind. They'll think they're something there, if only they'd take a chance, and they'll dwell on it.
Painful as it is, you just gotta be straight with 'em.
 

hyperhammy

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I fooled myself into thinking that I was just too nice...
But the friendszone is just a way for girls to say no while thinking they aren't hurting anybody. Which is far from true.
Here's a tip... go in, drop the bomb, and get the fuck out, before the negative side effects cause any mutations...
 

Sneaky-Pie

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I've always been inclined to think that the "friend zone" was a device to spare the feelings of the one it was being used on.

Even though typically the two do not remain friends, or at least have the same kind of friendship afterwards, it's still a way to put someone down all nice like.

Despite how kind they believe themselves to be, it still stings like any other rejection.

I will need to reject more womens to test my hypothesis. I now just need to practice the D.E.N.N.I.S. system a little bit more and I'll be ready.
 

Ham_authority95

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I think that the phrase "friend zone" is a phrase made by butthurt idiots who can't move on from being rejected and who think that its a bad thing to just be friends with a female.(Or at least wanted to make up another word for "rejection")

How is it so bad to just get another female friend? She obviously has other female friends that might be attracted to you, and above all else, you learn how the girls think for future reference. You only have the high ground if you get another female friend.
 

Erana

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So I can't be a male's friend without being an asshole?
Thanks.
Thanks a lot.
 

teisjm

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Dunno why girls does it, but i have several female friends i wouldn't date, partly because they're my friends, and partly because almost every one of my female friends ahve been the girlfriend or slept with one or more of my male friends, and so far it hqas caused so mouch trouble in the group of friends whenever someone hooks up with someone else's old boyfriend/girlfriend etc.
But again, all of those are also girls i've known for many years, and i've got a sort of rule not to date friends i've known for long, and not to date girls from work/class, cause thats too much trouble.

Teh only time a girl has told me she ratehr wanted to be friends, was a girl i was seeing casually, since none of us wanted a real realtionship, but i wouldn't say there wasn't any attraction, seeing how we did sleep together a few times.
 

Ham_authority95

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Erana said:
So I can't be a male's friend without being an asshole?
Thanks.
Thanks a lot.
This backs up my above very VERY well.

Yup. To the people who invented the phrase, not dating them or having sex with them is being an asshole.
 

Midnight Crossroads

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Girls get stuck in it too. It's not just a problem that guys face. I was completely oblivious to quite a few girls that were interested in me simply because I always just thought friend. It would probably be for the best if people just came out and said I'm not interested, but it's not always apparent and it's asking people to do things they're not comfortable with. The whole situation is like taking bitter medicine so a sickness will go away in a few days instead of taking its course.
 

Shycte

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Erana said:
So I can't be a male's friend without being an asshole?
Thanks.
Thanks a lot.
Ever seen When Harry met Sally?

OT: I was FWMMC:d once, but we where still friend after that. Kept up a good, friendly relationship. Nothing romantic or anything. Just friends.

Otherwise I am extremly succsessful when it comes to women.

 

Blue_vision

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hyperhammy said:
I fooled myself into thinking that I was just too nice...
But the friendszone is just a way for girls to say no while thinking they aren't hurting anybody. Which is far from true.
Here's a tip... go in, drop the bomb, and get the fuck out, before the negative side effects cause any mutations...
This... kind of. If you're really "friend zone" material, then you won't need to be friend zoned in the first place. You just break it off and let a natural friendship develop out of it. No awkward and range-inciting material needed.
 

Woodsey

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Ham_authority95 said:
Woodsey said:
Sounds like you've got sand in your vagina to me.
You internet misogynists make me laugh...
Well aren't you sensitive. Using a funny saying to tell someone "you sound irritated" does not mean I hate women.
 

tomtom94

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This? [http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=295]

OT: The friend zone is basically a girl's effort to soften the blow to you.
In doing so, it hurts like a complete *****.
 

laststandman

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the friend zone cuts both ways. I had a good experience with it and a bad one. The best words in which I can put it are those of The Who "I'm happy when life's good, and when it's sad I cry."
 

Bruin

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Child's play on the "cynical" meter.

Used in an honest context, the Friend Zone is an effective way not to entirely alienate somebody you don't want to be in a relationship with while still talking to them.

Unfortunately, the majority of human beings who actually use the "Friend Zone" saw it on "Friends" while chowing down on Rocky Road and listening to High School Musical in between purging bouts. Or they're completely daft and somehow thinks that the average male actually values friendship.
 

Erana

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Woodsey said:
Ham_authority95 said:
Woodsey said:
Sounds like you've got sand in your vagina to me.
You internet misogynists make me laugh...
Well aren't you sensitive. Using a funny saying to tell someone "you sound irritated" does not mean I hate women.
When it plays on the whole, "Its demeaning to imply that a man is a woman" thing, yeah it kinda is misogynistic.
I mean, after getting the whole, "make me a sandwich" thing enough, comments like this don't really offend me much, but there's no denying that it isa misogynistic comment.
 

Woodsey

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Erana said:
Woodsey said:
Ham_authority95 said:
Woodsey said:
Sounds like you've got sand in your vagina to me.
You internet misogynists make me laugh...
Well aren't you sensitive. Using a funny saying to tell someone "you sound irritated" does not mean I hate women.
When it plays on the whole, "Its demeaning to imply that a man is a woman" thing, yeah it kinda is misogynistic.
I mean, after getting the whole, "make me a sandwich" thing enough, comments like this don't really offend me much, but there's no denying that it isa misogynistic comment.
It doesn't play on the whole "demeaning to imply that a man is a woman". It plays on the old, "sand in the vagina is irritating" chestnut.