On the Left 4 Dead Ban

Lusulpher

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canadamus_prime said:
You could always move to Canada, Yahtzee. We haven't banned any games here, at least not to my knowledge. And we get games released at the same time as the Americans. WHOOOOOOO!

[font size=8]*Disclaimer: Not actually suggesting Yahtzee move anywhere. "Suggestion" intended for humorous purposes.[/font]
This quote...it is Truth, I quote it for world to share.

Also, it's one Attorney-General that needs to have non-violent sitdown of a about 30 people outside his office for a week(go larger, more days, more calmly). He'll get the message that you know about him, and that will make him realize he is pissing off a lot of older people.

Take a day off from work and fuuking protest! Old-school gangsta style(RIP M.L.K. Jr., Ghandi, Jesus).

Corrupt governments can't defend against peaceful attacks, everybody knows it. It's only a matter of time before they have to admit they represent evil/laziness/cruelty/incompetence in the system.
 

Wyes

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Lusulpher said:
Corrupt governments can't defend against peaceful attacks, everybody knows it. It's only a matter of time before they have to admit they represent evil/laziness/cruelty/incompetence in the system.
China.
 

Sketchy

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This makes me rage... It'd better be classified by release, or I'll march right down to Canberra, and slap the government silly.

And I WILL do it...
 

SonicSoulstrike96

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Wyes said:
Lusulpher said:
Corrupt governments can't defend against peaceful attacks, everybody knows it. It's only a matter of time before they have to admit they represent evil/laziness/cruelty/incompetence in the system.
China.
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Rather ironic, considering that old joke of Australia being founded by convicts and all. And here I thought American raters were retarded old prudes.
 

Knight Templar

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Spider Expert said:
This quote from the Manhunt ZP seems appropriate

"There's a very clear certification indicating that twelve year olds aren't supposed to be playing it but there's no denying they play it anyone because no one other than twelve year olds are into this thing. Talking breathlessly about wire decapitation and baseball bat cranial explosion is a good way to win friends around middle school but around the office water cooler it's a good way to lose them."
What's your point?

Those kids will still end up playing the games, it's those who do care about the law that are punished. The average gamer in Australia is about 30 years old, why should the many be punished to hide things from the few?
 

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they are soooo worried that this has a bad influence on children. soon they mide ban scooby doo, because it mide make the children solve dangerous crimes. or any game based on cartoons like batman, spiderman etc. they have violence too and the children try to be like them.
maybe the government tries to have the same life like in the movie demolition man. no violence, swearing etc.
 

Spider Expert

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Knight Templar said:
Spider Expert said:
This quote from the Manhunt ZP seems appropriate

"There's a very clear certification indicating that twelve year olds aren't supposed to be playing it but there's no denying they play it anyone because no one other than twelve year olds are into this thing. Talking breathlessly about wire decapitation and baseball bat cranial explosion is a good way to win friends around middle school but around the office water cooler it's a good way to lose them."
What's your point?

Those kids will still end up playing the games, it's those who do care about the law that are punished. The average gamer in Australia is about 30 years old, why should the many be punished to hide things from the few?
Almost every kid would want this sort of thing and the large majority of adults would not care for it.

Also few? Hardly. Suppose my point is banning it is pointless.
 

Knight Templar

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Also few? Hardly.
What part of "The average gamer in Australia is about 30 years old" didn't you understand.
The majority has to follow the rules that exsist for the few.
 

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It doesnt stop us getting the games. Almost all my games are imports and always have been. All it effectively does in the end is deny Australian retailers the income... go figure...
 

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Apparently in Western Australia (the state of Aus that I live in) importing a copy of a game, movie, etc that is Refused Classification can result in a $10,000 fine. I think the law was aimed at people downloading weird porn or something, but could just as easily be applied to importing L4D2 uncut.

Also, as others have stated, it isn't the ratings board that is holding back an R18+ rating for games, it is the Attorneys-General, but on top of that there is another holdup, which is the department of the Minister for Home Affairs, which is dragging its feet on the release of a discussion paper on the R18 rating. This discussion paper is the way forward for the rating, so at the moment the ball is in his court. So Aussies, if you want to contact someone to get things moving, send him a (mature, polite) letter, to let him know that it is important to you. That is, a real letter, don't waste your time with an email. Here are his details:

The Hon Brendan O'Connor MP

Minister for Home Affairs

Parliament House Contact
PO Box 6022
House of Representatives
Parliament House
Canberra ACT 2600

http://www.aph.gov.au/house/members/member.asp?id=AN3
 

ReverseEngineered

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I wouldn't even be so offended if it really was just "save the children", but it's not. Because they claim to be so concerned with children, even fully-grown adults are treated like children. We don't need child safety locks and ratings boards to keep us safe: we're adults who are capable of making judgements for ourselves. If we want to rip zombies to shreds while being sprayed with blood and guts, then let us -- it's not like we're harming anyone.

The video game rating boards are no different than any other self-appointed censorship panel. It's a group of self-righteous people who think they have some God-given job to protect everyone else from the immoral, the morbid, and the sinful. Fuck them. What they think is corrupting, I call cathartic. What they call violent, I call realistic. What they call a sin, I call a game. It's make-believe, pretend, pixels on a screen. We're not mass murders, we're just racking up points, and no amount of blood, drugs, or otherwise are going to change the nature of the game.

The whole damn world seems to be taking a turn back to the Victorian age and I can't honestly even say who is behind it. With so many sinners and perverts out there, who are these people instituting these ridiculous decency standards? No doubt there's some rich minority with nothing better to do than tell the rest of us how we should live our lives.
 

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@Glefistus--Since when does anything with America make sense? There's an uproar over Obama being a socialist, but then people cry foul when one points out that due to many government-run programs we've been living in a semi-socialist country for a long while now. People want the government to stay out of our bodies and our bedrooms, yet we still fight and debate over legislation concerning the issues of abortion and gay marriage.

I mean, we order diet sodas with our Big Macs, for crying out loud! We've *never* been "quite right," to begin with.
 

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tellmeimaninja said:
For once I agree with Yahtzee's Extra Punctuation...
With things like this, it's only a matter of time until we have governments like the one in MIrror's Edge. I hope that never happens. That game was terrible.
That has got to be the funniest comment I've seen all day. Two thumbs up! :D
 

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Knight Templar said:
Spider Expert said:
Also few? Hardly.
What part of "The average gamer in Australia is about 30 years old" didn't you understand.
The majority has to follow the rules that exsist for the few.
Suddenly the youths appeal of gaming disappears
 

Knight Templar

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Spider Expert said:
Knight Templar said:
Spider Expert said:
Also few? Hardly.
What part of "The average gamer in Australia is about 30 years old" didn't you understand.
The majority has to follow the rules that exsist for the few.
Suddenly the youths appeal of gaming disappears
You'll need to elaborate on what exactly you're saying here.
 

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I don't agree with Yahtzee at all on this issue. There's no way around it, this game is a solid 18+ game rating wise. What should be said is that there is an absolute need for an 18+ rating in Australia.
 

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As we are sending right now Painkiller Resurrection to the Rating Board down under I get a slight sense of panic while reading the lines...
 

Evil mr dave

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the zombies in left 4 dead are actually living people, just infected wth the virus that makes them go insane. sucks yahtzee can't get it, i was looking forward to the review.