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Okay, I guess it's just me and my 'close ups only, no face, no don't talk to me' thing.
 

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Says the communist? Suddenly millionaires are cool so long as it's sex work, eh?
Some of the supposed commies or is it socialists or whatever else etc to stop a moment and go "Hey so maybe the monitisation and commercialisation of sex is going a bit far now".

And I say this as some-one that loves media with sex and violence in it.
You guys do know that we live in a capitalist society that will kill you if you don't earn money right? You guys have also read even a paragraph of communist or socialist philosophy and know that the issue isn't explicitly someone earning money, even lots of it, rather who's profiting off the excess value of a worker's labour? Like we're not against selling things. We're more concerned with where the majority of that money from selling things goes. Sex workers are providing products and services that people CHOOSE to buy and they get to create that and sell it directly with OF taking a cut. Which is a much preferable system to the standard "porn studio makes film, pays stars flat rate, stars earn no royalties and studio makes all the profit" system we currently have.

Like this is such a sad "gotcha" that only works because of an ill informed understanding of socialism.

Also, and here's tthe fucking wild part, is there actually a conversation going on about whether this constitutes real work or not in a thread where someone is talking about how much they've earned just from owning gifted fucking crypto? Self awareness is fucking dead.
 

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I don't see the relevance of your aesthetic preferences on the question of commercialization of sex etc. "going too far". There are cakes that are not for you.
Well people were on about the idea of me preferring big companies make bank off sex and violence.

Or, y’know, most streamers seem to actually enjoy themselves and there’s lower odds of it being essentially a filmed rape scene. Also most corporate porn is exactly the fucking same and is comparatively boring as hell with garbage editing that ruins any pacing because they assume you’re skipping around anyway.
See you say that but part of the purge on Pornhub was due to sex trafficking victims being used to make video for profit there.

Knowing some-one who has willingly done Pornhub videos and uploaded it themselves they got like £25-£35 per video basically up front paid by Pornhub + pay based on views too. So it's would be fairly profitable for gangs unfortunately
 

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You guys do know that we live in a capitalist society that will kill you if you don't earn money right? You guys have also read even a paragraph of communist or socialist philosophy and know that the issue isn't explicitly someone earning money, even lots of it, rather who's profiting off the excess value of a worker's labour? Like we're not against selling things. We're more concerned with where the majority of that money from selling things goes. Sex workers are providing products and services that people CHOOSE to buy and they get to create that and sell it directly with OF taking a cut. Which is a much preferable system to the standard "porn studio makes film, pays stars flat rate, stars earn no royalties and studio makes all the profit" system we currently have.

Like this is such a sad "gotcha" that only works because of an ill informed understanding of socialism.

Also, and here's tthe fucking wild part, is there actually a conversation going on about whether this constitutes real work or not in a thread where someone is talking about how much they've earned just from owning gifted fucking crypto? Self awareness is fucking dead.
Well I guess the revolution doesn't mind losing promising minds because OnlyFans pays better than helping them develop things for the glory of the party or something.

As for the Crypto part. It's mostly a joke I'm not ever likely to cash the stuff out on there ever to begin with. I was having a silly laugh about it because Crypto was brought up.

The OnlyFans creators who put in effort etc I have respect for. The ones who crap out 2 pictures a week and maybe 1 video a month and mostly reply on basically manipulation to keep people in (as in they literally have paid male staff members who are the ones people are talking to on most IRC / Text the creator stuff ad it's the job of those staff to try and keep people subscribed and make them think the creator likes them or values them.)
 

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Well I guess the revolution doesn't mind losing promising minds because OnlyFans pays better than helping them develop things for the glory of the party or something.
What are you even talking about? Like are you trolling or do you just genuinely get all your info on sodialism from turning point USA?
 

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What are you even talking about? Like are you trolling or do you just genuinely get all your info on sodialism from turning point USA?
Classic conservative argumentation: because us "leftists" aren't conforming to his cartoon definition of archaosocialcomulism, that means we are doing leftism badly and/or are being hypocrites. The idea that his carton definition of archaosocialcommulism is wrong to begin with is unthinkable, regardless of how often people say he's wrong.
About 36 minutes in, hbomb starts talking about PragerU and the argument goes as follows: DH knows what commulism is and knows that commulists are dirty liars; therefore, if a commulist acts in ways different than he imagines, said commulist is either misinformed about their actual ideology or is deliberately lying.
 
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What are you even talking about? Like are you trolling or do you just genuinely get all your info on sodialism from turning point USA?
While not entirely certain, I suspect he's just practicing his drunken monologues for the pidgeons at the park later. They're a tough crowd these days.
 

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See you say that but part of the purge on Pornhub was due to sex trafficking victims being used to make video for profit there.

Knowing some-one who has willingly done Pornhub videos and uploaded it themselves they got like £25-£35 per video basically up front paid by Pornhub + pay based on views too. So it's would be fairly profitable for gangs unfortunately
Didn’t ask
 

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What are you even talking about? Like are you trolling or do you just genuinely get all your info on sodialism from turning point USA?
This is in essence a big chunk of the far right: people with moderate/socialistic-leaning economic sympathies who reject the liberal-left because they don't believe in the liberal-left's out-group sympathies and social progressiveness. So yes, they take a lot of opinions from the right.
 

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These days whenever I see trafficking mentioned it's more likely than not it's a front for some kind of plan that will coincidentally fuck over all sex workers who aren't being coerced. Sex work and trans people are the main things the evangelicals can create moral panics about these days since they lost the war on gay marriage, and they take every opportunity to do so.
 

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What are you even talking about? Like are you trolling or do you just genuinely get all your info on sodialism from turning point USA?
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But... but capitalism has judged them to be successful! You can't question capitalism or you're a COMMIE!
 

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In other news

Morality in Media or as it's now calling itself The National Center on Sexual Exploitation (NCOSE) is claiming responsibility


(Archive used because giving them views and a link could boost their search prominence)

Though then again they have claimed responsibility for a lot including the Steam adult game ban in the past so take it with a good few handfuls of salt.
 

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Well maybe the answer there is that rather than Hamstringing sexworkers' ability to earn we should push for higher wages in other fields? You know, rather than tech and pharma companies giving huge sums of cash to people who do far less than your average OnlyFans user we channel those insane profits into paying employees?
 

Dwarvenhobble

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Well maybe the answer there is that rather than Hamstringing sexworkers' ability to earn we should push for higher wages in other fields? You know, rather than tech and pharma companies giving huge sums of cash to people who do far less than your average OnlyFans user we channel those insane profits into paying employees?
yes, but that's not communism. Socalism sure or something akin to it but not actual communism I dunno maybe ethical capitalism more?