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Souplex

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Marik2 said:
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Zontar said:
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If you monsters had your own con, why did you have to ruin NYCC?
Was it so much to ask that you bathe if you're going to interact with proper geeks?
the panels about SocJus topics that are the cancer of every community they infect,]
I'm confused; how can cancer have cancer?
That still doesn't excuse how you made everything smell worse. Take a shower, wear some deodorant! It's not difficult. If you can afford con passes you can afford deodorant.
Most nerd groups are that bad in general.
As someone who goes to gaming stores of the tabletop and video variety, they smell fine.
NYCC smelled fine until they integrated the Anime Con. The moment that happened it became notably smelly. It's almost like people without standards for entertainment don't have standards for personal hygiene.
tldr: New York geeks smell fine. Weebs everywhere smell awful.
 

BreakfastMan

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undeadsuitor said:
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why is there paper shreds on your comic books
Are you seriously asking or just joking?
im asking cause ive never seen those marvel comic books

are they dc? i dont read many of them
I don't see either the Marvel or DC logo on either. They could be Dark Horse or Image. Or maybe even one of those small time indie comics publishers.
it does look like Images art style
Maybe Zontar is picking up some back issues of Spawn. I don't see Spawn on those covers, though...
Sometimes they put the villain in the cover so maybe it's one of those times?
I mean, one of those ladies looks like she could be Angela. So that is probably it.
 

BreakfastMan

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undeadsuitor said:
BreakfastMan said:
undeadsuitor said:
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undeadsuitor said:
BreakfastMan said:
undeadsuitor said:
Zontar said:
undeadsuitor said:
why is there paper shreds on your comic books
Are you seriously asking or just joking?
im asking cause ive never seen those marvel comic books

are they dc? i dont read many of them
I don't see either the Marvel or DC logo on either. They could be Dark Horse or Image. Or maybe even one of those small time indie comics publishers.
it does look like Images art style
Maybe Zontar is picking up some back issues of Spawn. I don't see Spawn on those covers, though...
Sometimes they put the villain in the cover so maybe it's one of those times?
I mean, one of those ladies looks like she could be Angela. So that is probably it.
Yeah that's probably it

shame zontar keeps ripped up paper all over his nice stuff
Yeah, you preserve comics by putting them in this plastic slips, not putting ripped up bits of paper all over them. He should really read up on comic preservation methods.
 

Zontar

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undeadsuitor said:
Zontar said:
Alright I get it, I'm a perverted weeb.
you should really be supporting your own canadian culture instead of immigrating in foreign culture
Cultural exchange is only natural between civilised nations. They have something that's better then ours, it's only natural we'd absorb it.
 

BreakfastMan

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Zontar said:
undeadsuitor said:
Zontar said:
Alright I get it, I'm a perverted weeb.
you should really be supporting your own canadian culture instead of immigrating in foreign culture
Cultural exchange is only natural between civilised nations. They have something that's better then ours, it's only natural we'd absorb it.
If that is the case, then why are you buying anime?
 

bluegate

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Zontar said:
undeadsuitor said:
Zontar said:
Alright I get it, I'm a perverted weeb.
you should really be supporting your own canadian culture instead of immigrating in foreign culture
Cultural exchange is only natural between civilised nations. They have something that's better then ours, it's only natural we'd absorb it.
Drawn images of naked women and a phenomenon where people obsess over female characters to the point that they call them their wives is "something better"?

Now I'm interested in what kind of unholy crap goes on in Canadian culture that the above is considered "something better".
 

Saelune

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Zontar said:
undeadsuitor said:
Zontar said:
Alright I get it, I'm a perverted weeb.
you should really be supporting your own canadian culture instead of immigrating in foreign culture
Cultural exchange is only natural between civilised nations. They have something that's better then ours, it's only natural we'd absorb it.
So you don't mind how it dilutes your 'anglo' culture?
 

CaitSeith

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BreakfastMan said:
Zontar said:
undeadsuitor said:
Zontar said:
Alright I get it, I'm a perverted weeb.
you should really be supporting your own canadian culture instead of immigrating in foreign culture
Cultural exchange is only natural between civilised nations. They have something that's better then ours, it's only natural we'd absorb it.
If that is the case, then why are you buying anime?
 

BreakfastMan

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CaitSeith said:
BreakfastMan said:
Zontar said:
undeadsuitor said:
Zontar said:
Alright I get it, I'm a perverted weeb.
you should really be supporting your own canadian culture instead of immigrating in foreign culture
Cultural exchange is only natural between civilised nations. They have something that's better then ours, it's only natural we'd absorb it.
If that is the case, then why are you buying anime?
I mean, I have watched a bunch of episodes of Red Green and Trailer Park Boys. Both of those seem like pretty good shows. And Pontypool was a great damn horror movie as well.
 

Zontar

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BreakfastMan said:
CaitSeith said:
BreakfastMan said:
Zontar said:
undeadsuitor said:
Zontar said:
Alright I get it, I'm a perverted weeb.
you should really be supporting your own canadian culture instead of immigrating in foreign culture
Cultural exchange is only natural between civilised nations. They have something that's better then ours, it's only natural we'd absorb it.
If that is the case, then why are you buying anime?
I mean, I have watched a bunch of episodes of Red Green and Trailer Park Boys. Both of those seem like pretty good shows. And Pontypool was a great damn horror movie as well.
Red Green and Trailer Park Boys are up there with Corner Gas in terms of being some of the peak of Canadian television comedy. Problem is when it comes to animation we're far less impressive. Canadian animation falls into 3 categories: Stuff an American company is using one of our studios to make (MLP, Rachet and Clank), some cheap flash animation cartoon that exists to meet CRTC Canadian Content guidelines (literally any Teletoon original series) and the projects of university students made as assignments where the best ones end up in some film festival's compilation release.

Outside of comedies and music the near totality of entertainment we make is created with the intention of exportation to the US, UK or France. For example almost every science fiction television series in the US at the moment is made up here by an American company, or made by a Canadian company and sold to US distributors. Examples include Star Trek Discovery, The Expanse, Orphan Black, Killjoys and Dark Matter (in fact many are made on adjacent lots). Most broadcast prime time series will also have major scenes set in a city's down town area be filmed in Vancouver or Toronto, if they aren't entirely filmed in those cities to begin with. Examples of this are too long to even bother giving.
 

Marik2

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bluegate said:
Zontar said:
undeadsuitor said:
Zontar said:
Alright I get it, I'm a perverted weeb.
you should really be supporting your own canadian culture instead of immigrating in foreign culture
Cultural exchange is only natural between civilised nations. They have something that's better then ours, it's only natural we'd absorb it.
Drawn images of naked women and a phenomenon where people obsess over female characters to the point that they call them their wives is "something better"?

Now I'm interested in what kind of unholy crap goes on in Canadian culture that the above is considered "something better".
Canadian culture is pure degeneracy.

 

Marik2

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Saelune said:
Zontar said:
undeadsuitor said:
Zontar said:
Alright I get it, I'm a perverted weeb.
you should really be supporting your own canadian culture instead of immigrating in foreign culture
Cultural exchange is only natural between civilised nations. They have something that's better then ours, it's only natural we'd absorb it.
So you don't mind how it dilutes your 'anglo' culture?
Asians are now white.


 

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Marik2 said:
Saelune said:
Zontar said:
undeadsuitor said:
Zontar said:
Alright I get it, I'm a perverted weeb.
you should really be supporting your own canadian culture instead of immigrating in foreign culture
Cultural exchange is only natural between civilised nations. They have something that's better then ours, it's only natural we'd absorb it.
So you don't mind how it dilutes your 'anglo' culture?
Asians are now white.


That explains why most anime art styles have characters that look more white then asian.
 

Zontar

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Samtemdo8 said:
Marik2 said:
Saelune said:
Zontar said:
undeadsuitor said:
Zontar said:
Alright I get it, I'm a perverted weeb.
you should really be supporting your own canadian culture instead of immigrating in foreign culture
Cultural exchange is only natural between civilised nations. They have something that's better then ours, it's only natural we'd absorb it.
So you don't mind how it dilutes your 'anglo' culture?
Asians are now white.


That explains why most anime art styles have characters that look more white then asian.
The Japanese where not declared Honorary without reason.
 

Zontar

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undeadsuitor said:
Saelune said:
Zontar said:
undeadsuitor said:
Zontar said:
Alright I get it, I'm a perverted weeb.
you should really be supporting your own canadian culture instead of immigrating in foreign culture
Cultural exchange is only natural between civilised nations. They have something that's better then ours, it's only natural we'd absorb it.
So you don't mind how it dilutes your 'anglo' culture?
Western artists don't draw them as young as he likes


Now before you say anything, consider the following:

 

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When do we get to the part where the background basis of things like 'Kawaii Culture' has its roots in pacifying the populace of the Western world given that people were still (rightfully) demanding people like Prince Asaka get hanged for war crimes and the U.S. was trying to improve Japan's foreign relations?

That it was active attempts both within and without Japan to try to distance itself from its culture of high publicized brutality of its activities in China and Korea that it flaunted during the war years as if 'honourable' and 'glorious'?

I would have thought a Canadian conservative such as yourself would hate that ...? What about those honourable Canadian souls that served in the two Canadian infantry battalions in Hong Kong...?

How do you feel that their sacrifices were made and then downplayed by a concerted effort of the Japanese not to have to pay proper war reparations in the face of U.S. desires to prosecute a larger offensive against the powers that actively assisted in the fight against Imperial Japan--your nation's enemy at the time?

How does it make you feel going to a convention, an edifice of spitting on the graves of Canadian soldiers--the courageous flesh and spirit behind your nation's bayonets and their very memories of heroism and battle-eagerness to meet the enemy on any front--solely to soften the image of the very people that swore to bring them ruin?

What does it feel like being a known benefactor of an industry that props itself up on a history of willing consumption of social engineering experiments and appeasement of the atrocities committed against your country and her allies? A complicit agent in the willing consumption of a foreign entity's persistent propaganda aimed at eroding the solemnity of remembering your own people's fallen for the sake of naked consumption and self-gratification?

How do you feel that the majority of adults in Japan, and the majority of youth, don't actually watch anime ...and that it represents an artifice of their society that academics do everything todistance themselves from and actively write out against it mindless consumption?

Even going sofar as to outline how it is impacting negatively on their people and diluting their sense of social cohesion and forming healthier community connections and that it ultimately warps the psyche of excessive consumers and fetishizes and infantilizes not only their history which to be truly respectable must incur both the weight of its sins as well as its triumphs, and rather just producing pure artificial consumption fuel for foreigners to largely consume?

In all seriousness now, when I was living in Japan I was surprised by the number of people I met that just flat out hated how their country was at all associated with it. They thought that it was not only a ham-fisted way of refusing to come to terms with a still living past, and was actively abused by government branches to infantilize and effectively coddle their people in the post-War aftermath rather than fully internalizing the weight of being a defeated country that at one time publicized the atrocities of soldiers killing civilians like you would cricket scores in their own newspapers.

Hell, when I was living there it was still being abused by the government. Moe-ifying their fucking military trying to appeal to children to enlist when they were older... and apparently the JSDF was working hand-in-hand with anime studios.

Which was a surprise to me just how blatant it was. I mean, sure ...I get that the Japanese don't like to talk about the Pacific War .... but going so far as to 'cutesify' everything related around it and their military, and that this was a government endorsed program by members of its military is a bit beyond the fucking pale.

So ... you know ... in the wake of all of this nonsense, why exactly does a Canadian conservative, of all people, like this artificiality of consumer culture and government propaganda? Or perhaps a more pressing question ... you do recognize it's propaganda, right?

That's not to say all anime is. I quite like Spice and Wolf, but the primary reason Japanese animation and comics scene got so large was a co-ordinated postwar propaganda effort. Specifically what we now call 'Kawaii Culture' and its antecedents out of, to begin with.

Strikes me as odd a Canadian conservative would somehow pretend that's a good thing ... Hell, you should have seen how they transformed the story of Momotarou to basically reverse engineer the demons in it to be Westerners who were occupying lands, and the gallant Japanese forces coming to 'liberate them'.

Oh yeah ...that is a thing. And it's still a thing... just with some radical rebranding in Kawaii Culture.

Once again Canadian conservative + 'Kawaii Culture' ... not seeing the connection here.

Hell, even some anime deals with this very poisonous relationship of just how kind of sinisterly the JSDF manipulates government politics and social awareness around their own position on the world stage.

Patlabor 2, for instance ... and its whole examination of the difference between a just war and a false peace, and how a concerted effort of social engineering behind the scenes has constructed somewhat of a 'mirage' of a country that never actually faced its own defeat in full, now faces a terrorist who forces its realization upon them.

It's a really, really good political thriller. But even that movie doesn't exactly drive home; "Yeah, this is actually about the postwar political dynamics of the country and how Japan right now wants to be able to mobilize to fight foreign engagements once more." But it still looks at the cultural dynamics of it, and what it actually means to be 'captured' by an overwhelming force with extensions of power that bleed into the very darkest shadows of a nation...

But I get a feeling that you're not really into anime like that from a look at your purchases.

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Beyond that moment of dark seriousness...

Fortunately I know a show largely made, and their characters largely voiced, by Canadians that you should support and give full backing to as a good Canadian should and put aside your dalliances with foreign (and insidious) subversiveness.
 

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Addendum_Forthcoming said:
When do we get to the part where the background basis of things like 'Kawaii Culture' has its roots in pacifying the populace of the Western world
You ask this while using a My Little Pony avatar, aren't you in your 30's?