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Risingblade

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This is a bad thing? Seems pretty awesome to me...
It's satirizing how women are being treated by male nerds for "not being real geeks" or "being attention seeking" when they turn up at conventions, do cosplay, or comment on nerd culture.

This seems quite obvious but this seems to have flown over the heads of 90% of the commenters here who, much like yourself, think that it would be awesome to be sexually harrassed and dismissed due to your gender.
No those 90% really don't give a shit about what it's suppose to mean. Stop being so serious on the internet please you'll bore us all to tears :3
 

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I'm confused, can someone just give me the rundown on this? I heard MLP conventions were actually almost entirely male.
All it's doing is presenting a situation that's depressingly not unusual for women at geek conventions and swapping the genders. The only reason MLP is being used is because it's a convenient, popular girl-focused thing that has conventions.

That kind of behavior really isn't all that unusual for a group of men being approached by a woman at a 'con. It's not the majority or anything, but it's also not classifiable as "isolated incidents".
 

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I was a tad confused after I read the comic and the small article below it. I haven't really noticed this stuff happening... though, they could just be making an ironic statement of sorts.
 

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I don't know a single guy that would want a girl to come on to them in that manner...
You've heard from at least 5 in this thread alone.
I doubt any of them were serious. and if they were, well, that's still only 5 on a website known for attracting a clientèle with low self-esteem and standards, out of hundreds of people I can say I know well enough to know they wouldn't like that.
 

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To all the guys going "Oh I want women coming on to me/being the sexual aggressors"

I once dated a woman from portugal.

Maybe it was just her, or maybe its latin girls in general - but this woman thoroughly changed my view on statements like that.

I am well aware that this is admitting that I'm uncomfortable with women 'being on top' so to say, but this was just too much.

she would grab my ass - no matter where we went - and make lewd remarks at me, again everywhere, even in public. At first it was a little endearing, but ultimately it was too much.

A lot of guys might fantasize about having a girl showing up on your doorstep wanting to fuck - but I swear it was kinda scary when she did so drunk, completely unannounced, while you're working on homework for a college class - and she doesn't want to leave and starts shouting because you're not giving her your undivided attention. She did this often.

if she'd ever actually hit me I could probably say that I'd been in a genuinely abusive relationship.

trust me guys: its not fun either way.

also, this doesn't mean that I only want girls as the passive partners. I prefer equals, but this was just too much.

So guys who want girls making catcalls at your and sexually harassing you - you don't know what you're talking about. You do not want that
 

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rhodo said:
Guys, some people here missed the point. This comic is reversing the roles of what usually happens at geek conventions.

If some male readers here think that this kind of sexual harassement is "awesome", try to imagine it happening constantly, and possibly from women that are stronger than you and don't even look attractive. You'd soon feel emasculated.
I think the point of the comic was less about the sexual harassment and more about Twilight Sparkle..um...lady's last statement, i'm sure a lot of bronies would be suitably horrified if they were crucified as 'dirty perving bastards trying to worm their way into a girls' pants by pretending to like a girl's show' at an MLP convention, which is obviously a play on the much parroted assertion that a lot of girls at conventions are in fact whores who found some glasses lying around outside and stole a batman t-shirt from somewhere.

Though tbh i think it's going to back-fire given how spectacularly some people have missed the satire...
 

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Females costume in skimpy and provocative clothing largely because many characters and their state of dress are largely a product of a media centered around the perceived wants and desires of males aged 16-32. It includes not all, but a majority and certainly a vast majority of mainstream female character favorites which would fall under the radar of casual fans looking for someone to dress up as, while not necessarily knowing everything about the subject matter. The condemnation of 'poser' women is misdirected and should be aimed at the culture which puts characters in that state of dress and thrusts them into the limelight. However, many of the self proclaimed nerds who criticize these women are also the ones most likely to wish to preserve the current Video-Gaming culture that allows for such an environment and hold an exclusionist view towards women, concerning their own communities.
 

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tehweave said:
I wanna say that never happens, but... I've never been to a con dressed as a brony. (Yes, I am still in the 'brony' closet. Eventually, I'll tell my friends about it. Hopefully they'll be supportive.)
Scrustle said:
I had no idea this kind of thing happened. Seems like the reverse of the whole fake gamer girl phenomenon.
Tony2077 said:
this is why i may like the series but i don't ever plan to go to a con
Ohlookit said:
What are you guys smoking? I really hope that this sort of thing doesn't go on at pony cons
canadamus_prime said:
Wow, I'm glad I'm not a brony and I don't attend conventions. Also double standard much.
It's not about bronies at all.

The article the description links to [http://geekout.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/24/booth-babes-need-not-apply/?hpt=hp_c3] is written by a guy complaining that some girls go to conventions "just to get attention". So the comic is making a point that questioning someone's right to be at a convention on the basis of their gender is stupid, by reversing the genders for comic effect. (The three women act like bad stereotypes of chauvinistic men. One of them is even smoking a cigar, which is seen as a very male trait.)

The comic isn't suggesting that bronies experience undue hostility (or sexually harassment) at conventions. It's suggesting that women do. Which is a debate best left at arm's length! (And behind a flame shield.)
 

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-Drifter- said:
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In fact, where can I find attractive girls cosplaying well? I'd pay to see that.



Could post more, but of the ones I've seen these two are the best (in my humble opinion, that is.)
Do you accept payment in cookies or internets?
 

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Funnily enough that has happened to me, while ice skating some girl came up and slapped my ass.
 

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Did anyone actually read the text underneath the comic? It pretty much spells the point out for you; that this shit happens all the time to women, where women geeks and gamers for some inexplicable reason have to 'prove themselves' that they're not just posers. It's bullshit, pathetic misogynist crap.

Also no Rarity?

Thanks Hazy. I legit did not understand what was going on.
 

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uhohimdead said:
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If "bronies" actually got treated that way, every guy in the world would pretend to be into My Little Pony.
pretend to be into something just to get subjected to sexual harassment? i doubt that highly

it's not fun for either gender
I enjoy being targeted for overt sexual advances from people. It's fun.
 

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rhodo said:
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I enjoy being targeted for overt sexual advances from people. It's fun.


Spoken like a true male who's never had to endure any sexual harassment whatsoever.
lolol

"Man? You wouldn't understand."

Sexism is fucking awesome, yo.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go do awesome man stuff. If you're a women, you wouldn't get it. Right? ;D
 

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I agree mostly, except for one thing... Men can't lost there virginity.... Wut. Virginity isn't a gender exclusive thing, I'm pretty sure that if a boy is sexually assaulted by an adult they're losing their virginity.
 

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I'm sure there are women who exploit male geek attention to promote their modelling career. There are obvious cases like some women who were at the con to promote their salon by only wearing superhero body paint and tiny patches covering their naughty bits (They had no interest in comics by their own admission) and they complained about being ejected from the con.

BUT

there is NO WAY to separate regular cosplayers from ''geeky people'' without it turning into some sort of fascist regime and futher promoting the idea that women aren't playing video games when we are. Female cosplayers should be left alone.

It annoys the crap out of me when someone sexily roleplays a character like an underwear model that I personally see to be a tough badass but I would never think of questioning that persons 'geek cred.' If they have put the time and effort into the cosplay then they must at least care about the game on some level.

Booth Babes are totally a different matter the industry needs to get rid of them to stop promoting this boys club mentality. I know you guys like them but they personally seriously make me feel uncomfortable and unwelcome (like I'm sure some oiled hunky guy in a speedo handing out flyers would make some of you guys feel). There's nothing like being reminded you aren't the main demographic in the most skeevy way possible.
Well said.

Although I have never been to a 'Con', I'd actually dislike the presence of booth babes just as much. It's insulting to the guys, for suggesting they really are that shallow (although sadly, so many of them are), it's insulting to the girls as it implies skimpy costumes matter more than any actual interest in the convention itself, and it's insulting to the industry for implying that sex and sexuality has an important role to play in this kind of place.
 

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rhodo said:
Clearing the Eye said:
rhodo said:
Clearing the Eye said:
I enjoy being targeted for overt sexual advances from people. It's fun.


Spoken like a true male who's never had to endure any sexual harassment whatsoever.
lolol

"Man? You wouldn't understand."

Sexism is fucking awesome, yo.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go do awesome man stuff. If you're a women, you wouldn't get it. Right? ;D


As I said: yes, you don't get it.

Males don't even have a perception of sexual harassment. It's hard for them to imagine being the victim.
Let's see here... males are culturally and physically the "strong" of the two sexes; there's a general conception that males can't be raped since they can't lose their virginity or end up pregnant; 90% of the times women don't sexually harass people (I'm not talking of flirting or advances. I'm talking of HARASSMENT).

You try being a tiny woman, and if you're alone taking a train in a city, there's a 50% chance that some suspicious weirdo will come up and try to hit on you. It ends up making you scared, trust me.
No, you have no idea what it feels like. As I said, we don't live in a society where a big towering and possibly quite ugly woman, with an air of mental unstability to her, suddenly grabs the ass of a guy.
Okay... Let's see here.

A) "There's a general conception that males can't be raped since they can't lose their virginity or end up pregnant."

Conception: creation of an idea or thing; becoming pregnant; the beginning of something.

Men can't lose their virginity or get pregnant. I um... I'm not... I don't... Moving right along.


B) "90% of the times women don't sexually harass people."

Cool number. I can pull stuff out of my ass, too! Did you know 96.76% of Australians earn ten million dollars a year? Amazing, huh. Proof? Who needs proof. You can just say a number, right?

C) "You try being a tiny woman, and if you're alone taking a train in a city, there's a 50% chance that some suspicious weirdo will come up and try to hit on you"

I am small. I am thin. In fact, I'm exceedingly weak. I defy you to find a person that can't beat me up. Also, again with the random numbers. Nice. Too bad it means dick all.

D) "No, you have no idea what it feels like. As I said, we don't live in a society where a big towering and possibly quite ugly woman, with an air of mental unstability to her, suddenly grabs the ass of a guy."

Because only massive, ugly men harass women, right? If the guy is attractive it's not harassment. Like, if a cute girl hits on a guy despite him not liking it, it's cool. I mean, you did argue that, right? Fail. Try again.

I've been harassed by what I consider an exceptionally unattractive man. It was fun, then tiresome, then annoying. But mostly fun.


So, um, sorry about your argument there. Didn't mean to tear it all down and set it on fire. Good luck coming up with some more nonsense.
 

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Guys, I know many people have already pointed it out, but allow me to make two key points.

1) This does not actually happen

As mentioned, the convention scene in general is overwhelmingly male, and not many teen/adult women like MLP:FiM.

If you want to understand why, imagine if someone made a really good remake of Thomas the Tank Engine with good characters and strong messages. You would still not go around with a Thomas the Tank Engine shirt on because you used to like that shit when you were five. You aren't going to look like you're being ironic, you aren't going to break people's preconceptions about what is and isn't acceptable viewing material. People will just assume you have learning difficulties.

2) Read the link

The link is actually the subject of the joke, and should provide the necessary context.

The point is: How fucking insecure do you have to be to simply assume that anyone of the opposite sex and of sufficient attractiveness who would want to lower themselves to your level might be a parasite looking for attention? That they somehow have to "prove" their genuine interest to you in order to attend the same places? That somehow it's all their fault that your culture treats them like sex objects rather than the people who actually treat them like sex objects, the corporations who exploit them to sell stuff to geeks (or, god forbid, neurotics working out their thwarted heterosexuality in articles on CNN). That they can't possibly be getting anything out of it beyond filling an empty desire for the "wrong sort" of attention.

Sorry, but if you ever want to come across as the most pathetic, thwarted, passive-aggressive little manshit, write a 1000+ word article about how you definately don't desire women's breasts and how much you hate women who flap them around where you cans see them because you're absolutely not attracted to them. Not at all. Absolutely not. The mere thought is unthinkable!
 

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trollpwner said:
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I want girls to hit on me like that ;_;
A-ha! I now know your IRL name! Nyuh-nyuh-nyuh-nyuh!

OT: Having thought about it, I think that making generalizations about anything in the sexism debate is playing with fire. Sexism should be tackled on an individual basis, or you're just going to piss people off.

CAPTCHA: Geronimo.

Indeed.
Say it 3 times in the mirror for surprise butt secks!
 

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rhodo said:
Eh, if we were to talk from a strictly biological point of view, then yes - women have an actual, physical virginity to lose; men don't.
Virginity: the quality or state of being virgin; a person who has not had sexual intercourse.

Sorry, what? Something about men not having a virginity to lose? I didn't quite catch it over my laughter. What's that? A physical virginity? Nah. Of course you don't mean that--that's silly and makes no sense at all. Maybe you meant to say hymen? It's okay. You can name the naughty parts.

A) Hymen does not equal virginity; hymens stretch and tear throughout childhood and adolescence. It's quite normal for a woman to significantly alter her hymen before she even begins penetrative masturbation.

B) Hymens do not go away upon sexual activity (at most they are reduced in size) and most women have them until they give birth, when the extreme stretching of the vaginal canal combines with the actual infant making it's way out.

C) There is no C. I just wanted to laugh again at the idea of it being impossible for men to lose their virginity.

You've still yet to prove to me how one cannot enjoy harassment. You're welcome to keep trying. I'll even let you make up some more numbers.