Our Top 10 Star Wars Games
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I never got the apeal of Republic Commando. Maybe it's because I played it off the back of Hidden and Dangerous and the Red Storm games but it seemed a pretty generic shooter to me with a shallow tacked on squad component. Plus it had the taint of the prequels.
They made it clear that it was their personal top 10 star wars games, the fact that Steve has a different opinion than you or I does not make it bogus or invalid.BigTuk said:
I also put JK and X-Wing series in my personal top 10 but I get where your coming from Steve. Also tip of the hat for including Star Wars: Racer and the Naboo flying game. They were quite fun back in the day, need to grab another copy.
Also I have Rogue Squadron 3D on PC
1. Whaaaaat, nothing from the X-Wing series?
2. Whaaaaat, no JK?
3. Whaaaaat, Battlefront 2 instead of the far superior Battlefront?
4. Republic Commando rocks.
2. Whaaaaat, no JK?
3. Whaaaaat, Battlefront 2 instead of the far superior Battlefront?
4. Republic Commando rocks.
I'm guessing since this is supposed to be a nostalgia list it makes sense The Force Unleashed doesn't get a spot, it's not old enough.
It's a shame, those games were brilliant, especially the first. Those games get far far more hate than they deserve. I finally felt like Force Users were treated like the near unstoppable badasses that all of Star Wars implies they could be but never actually allowed them to be. Jedi Knight doesn't even come close to pulling that off as well as this series does. The hectic combat along with the fluidity of the controls allowed for the player to create their own awesome moments pretty easily, and the story is quite a good piece of work as well chock full of references and fan moments.
It's a shame, those games were brilliant, especially the first. Those games get far far more hate than they deserve. I finally felt like Force Users were treated like the near unstoppable badasses that all of Star Wars implies they could be but never actually allowed them to be. Jedi Knight doesn't even come close to pulling that off as well as this series does. The hectic combat along with the fluidity of the controls allowed for the player to create their own awesome moments pretty easily, and the story is quite a good piece of work as well chock full of references and fan moments.
Here a video of the game play, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1rn34nOViM as you can see it's the same except in colour. From my experience the NES version is a little easier to play because it's easier to see what is going on.StewShearer said:
"Empire Strikes Back" was the winner of the SNES trilogy!
I'd also love to see a refreshed version of both Rogue Squadron and Pod Racer.
I'm also pretty surprised to see the lack of Jedi Knight 2 Outcast, and after reading the comments Im surprised to see Stew's never played it (yet)! I remember when it came out, it was insane fun online (or at least it was till you started getting players using macros to nail some of the combos).
I'd also love to see a refreshed version of both Rogue Squadron and Pod Racer.
I'm also pretty surprised to see the lack of Jedi Knight 2 Outcast, and after reading the comments Im surprised to see Stew's never played it (yet)! I remember when it came out, it was insane fun online (or at least it was till you started getting players using macros to nail some of the combos).
Yeah, I remember liking that. I'd have to play it again before including it on this sort of list, I can't remember if it was a "genuinely good game" or a "good considering" kind of game.necromanzer52 said:
There are so many Star Wars games with confusing titles that the best way to add to this list is probably with images. Thus my inclusions would be.
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SecondedKinitawowi said:
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(While this isn't actually a Star Wars game, it was released in the same year as Return of the Jedi and was certainly treated as such by the 5 year-old me...)
Y-Wings, not X-Wings.008Zulu said:
If you can manage the skirmish lines properly, the space game gets horrifyingly lethal, fast. Fighters (X-Wings, A-Wings, TIE Fighters, TIE interceptors) are your counter to enemy bombers (Y-Wings, TIE Bombers, B-Wings).
Capital ships get used against fighters (Star Destroyers, Corvettes, Mon Cal Star Cruisers, ect). But, you need a fighter escort to protect them from bombers, and you need bombers to take out your opponent's capital ships.
There are a few major exceptions, like the missile gunboat, which work like long range artillery, and you can use them in place of your bombers, if you want. (IIRC, all of the factions have a legitimate, all capital ship build for dealing with enemies.)
You can also use fighters to pick off your opponent's picket lines, and there's a hierarchy between the fighters.
With a little careful play, a single Imperial Class Star Destroyer, or Star Cruiser, with 4 flights of X-Wings and 2 flights of Y-Wings can snuff a level 5 station pretty easily.
The only really nasty thing is that the Imperials get (most of) their TIEs as garrison units, meaning when they get destroyed, they don't represent a real loss for that player, while Rebel fighters are never garrison units, so every loss has to be manually replaced.
I do like that all three factions actually play differently, though. Rebels do better with hit and run tactics... which is really weird for an RTS. You want to get in, cripple a few ships, and book it, before bringing a new force in later to finish them off. Imperial have a strong incentive for heavy commitment. You hit a system with Star Destroyers or AT-ATs, and roll over any opposition. Consortium works around finding weak spots, and exploiting them, undermining your foes before you finally move in and attack (as I recall, it's been awhile since I've actually played as them), they also have a very different board to deal with, because they have a ton of units that require you to have a specific planet under your control, while the Rebels and Imperials rarely need one specific planet for anything.
That tears it.Starke said:
When I have time, I'm going to make a video about it and how you can do it. Expect a PM in 6 months.
I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with some of the author's picks. Episode I racer is a shameful turd, both as a racing game and a Star Wars game. Truth be told, I'm rather baffled that so many N64 titles made the cut, as I would point to these titles as examples of crap Star Wars games (the only one I sort-of liked was Shadows of the Empire, and even that had its shortcomings).
Republic Commando, while not necessarily bad, wasn't particularly great either. I know that I played it back in the day, but it did not leave a lasting impression in my memory at all (which is to say I remember next to nothing about it). How such a decidedly mediocre title made the list has me scratching my head - especially when you consider other PC Star Wars games far more deserving of a mention (X-Wing, TIE Fighter, any of the Jedi Knight games, hell even Rebel Assault).
As for the KOTOR vs KOTOR 2 argument...I'd say that KOTOR 2 had serious problems when it was released (which is par for the course for an Obsidian game). I did enjoy it more than KOTOR, but was seriously disappointed by the ending. The Restored Content Mod did go a long way in fixing a lot of the game's issues, though. But on release day, KOTOR 2 was basically an incomplete game, which is why I have no problem with the author picking the first title over the second.
Republic Commando, while not necessarily bad, wasn't particularly great either. I know that I played it back in the day, but it did not leave a lasting impression in my memory at all (which is to say I remember next to nothing about it). How such a decidedly mediocre title made the list has me scratching my head - especially when you consider other PC Star Wars games far more deserving of a mention (X-Wing, TIE Fighter, any of the Jedi Knight games, hell even Rebel Assault).
As for the KOTOR vs KOTOR 2 argument...I'd say that KOTOR 2 had serious problems when it was released (which is par for the course for an Obsidian game). I did enjoy it more than KOTOR, but was seriously disappointed by the ending. The Restored Content Mod did go a long way in fixing a lot of the game's issues, though. But on release day, KOTOR 2 was basically an incomplete game, which is why I have no problem with the author picking the first title over the second.
