Pacific Rim Beaten by Adam Sandler at Box Office

DerangedHobo

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Pacific Rim is just a stupid and retarded as Grown Ups 2.
Hell, Pacific Rim has all the complexity and intrigue as a fucking Michael Bay film.
 

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SonicWaffle said:
OlasDAlmighty said:
Pacific Rim has more comedy in it than Grown Ups did, and from what I've heard Grownups 2 is even worse.
...Pacific Rim had comedy? I'm not trolling you here, I just genuinely don't remember any.
Barely. The part where the scientists awkwardly try to shake hands made me chuckle a little bit, as did several scenes with Ron Pearlman which I don't want to spoil. I don't think I laughed once during Grownups, though I did dose off for about 15 minutes, so maybe that 15 minutes was where all the comedy was.
 

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Who are these idiots who go to Adam Sandler movies (now that we have confirmed that he hasn't made one that was above "entertaining" since Happy Gilmore)? Because we need to remove them from the gene pool ASAP.
 

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SonicWaffle said:
OlasDAlmighty said:
Pacific Rim has more comedy in it than Grown Ups did, and from what I've heard Grownups 2 is even worse.
...Pacific Rim had comedy? I'm not trolling you here, I just genuinely don't remember any.
I wouldn't necessarily call it "comedy" but there was some humor in the movie, namely in the interactions between the "mad scientist" characters of Charlie Day and Burn Gorman. Also some bits with Ron Perlman that I won't spoil either.

Ok people. calm the hell down please. First, let me start off with I absolutely loved it. I am right there with Moviebob and the other gushers. I have already seen it twice. might see it a third, fourth or even fifth, and I WOULD REGRET NOTHING!

That said, THE WORLD IS NOT GOING TO END JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT MOVIE SOME PEOPLE SAW! While I found the farnsworth "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" bit funny, people are going apeshit over nothing!
I actually enjoyed Adam Sandler in Hotel Transylvania quite thoroughly.
People have different tastes. As for those who didn't like it, you know what? to each their own. Not going to affect my enjoyment of it one bit.

As for those talking of creating/unleashing Kaiju, let me build my mech first!
 

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It's shit like this that drives me away from cinema.

I try not to be a snob, and I strain to not look down on people who like Adam Sandler's films (well his recent films)...but holy shit does that man make it hard to remain impartial.
 

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I am not mainstream America.

Sometimes, I'm very, very glad of this.

It's hard to resist the urge to rage. It's so tempting to scream at the 33% of high school graduates who never read another book after graduation and the 43% of college graduates who do the same. The people who make "Honey Boo Boo" and "Jersey Shore" into major success stories.

To snarl the ever-popular, "This is why we can't have nice things!!"

But what will change from my snarling and sneering? I mean, if giant robots fighting sea monsters is just a little too high-brow fer yeh, how am I ever going to change your mind by moving my face-parts? (And I'm perfectly aware that posting this on The Escapist is largely preaching to the choir.)

*sigh*
 

DerangedHobo

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Callate said:
I am not mainstream America.

Sometimes, I'm very, very glad of this.

It's hard to resist the urge to rage. It's so tempting to scream at the 33% of high school graduates who never read another book after graduation and the 43% of college graduates who do the same. The people who make "Honey Boo Boo" and "Jersey Shore" into major success stories.

To snarl the ever-popular, "This is why we can't have nice things!!"

But what will change from my snarling and sneering? I mean, if giant robots fighting sea monsters is just a little too high-brow fer yeh, how am I ever going to change your mind by moving my face-parts? (And I'm perfectly aware that posting this on The Escapist is largely preaching to the choir.)

*sigh*
Why would you read a book? We have the internet, we have video games, we have movies, we have much much more effective ways of conveying an idea and emotion. The smugness and sense of superiority over 'the mainstream' is palpable.
 

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Maybe people went to see that shit movie without knowing it would be shit. And then no one gave them the money back. They should have listened to the warnings though. Oh well....maybe when Sandler gets back on screen some day no one will fall into the trap...
 

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I want to go out now and stab Grown Up 2 Fans
I mean promote Pacific Rim.

Seriously? the Shit movie out makes the most original and creative idea movies had in a decade?
When the last time we had a good movie that was not a remake, based off a book, TV Show, Comic book or what have you or a sequel?

Pacific Rim isn't based on an existing IP, and it isn't a Remake. Yeah you can make comparisons to other Kaiju/Giant Robot IPs you see similarities.

Versus a freaking sequel to a Adam Sandler Movie? And a bad one on top of that.
 

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darksakul said:
most original and creative idea movies had in a decade

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA-Oh wait you're serious....
Most creative and original? 'Not being a remake' does not mean original, Pacific Rim is the most cliche, simple, unoriginal film that i have ever seen, not saying it's *Bad* but how is this original?
 

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DerangedHobo said:
darksakul said:
most original and creative idea movies had in a decade

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA-Oh wait you're serious....
Most creative and original? 'Not being a remake' does not mean original, Pacific Rim is the most cliche, simple, unoriginal film that i have ever seen, not saying it's *Bad* but how is this original?

Only simply the merits that it isn't based on a existing IP.
It is not based from another movie, or a comic book, or a TV Show , or a novel or anything like that.

Look was being passed as blockbuster hits lately, Lord of the Rings (the Hobbit), Batman and the Avengers. All are great stories but they are all pre existing IP. Hollywood is in a rut where every movie that does well is based from some book or comic, and its a ugly cycle that leads to terrible movies like Transformers, the Smurfs, the Chipmunks.

Was there ever a Pacific Rim Movie, book, comic or Novel beforehand NO.

Yes there tons of similarities Pacific Rim has compared to other movies in the Kaiju genre.
There also noted similarities to Neon Genesis Evangelion, if Neve fired Gendo and Hired General Flag from GI Joe, replace the Eva units with Gigantor sized Big O Mecha, The Monsters are classic Godzilla archetypes mix with a touch of Call of Cthulhu , And Rei Ayanami being the co-pilot to Duke.
 

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darksakul said:
DerangedHobo said:
darksakul said:
most original and creative idea movies had in a decade

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA-Oh wait you're serious....
Most creative and original? 'Not being a remake' does not mean original, Pacific Rim is the most cliche, simple, unoriginal film that i have ever seen, not saying it's *Bad* but how is this original?

Only simply the merits that it isn't based on a existing IP.
It is not based from another movie, or a comic book, or a TV Show , or a novel or anything like that.

Look was being passed as blockbuster hits lately, Lord of the Rings (the Hobbit), Batman and the Avengers. All are great stories but they are all pre existing IP. Hollywood is in a rut where every movie that does well is based from some book or comic, and its a ugly cycle that leads to terrible movies like Transformers, the Smurfs, the Chipmunks.

Was there ever a Pacific Rim Movie, book, comic or Novel beforehand NO.

Yes there tons of similarities Pacific Rim has compared to other movies in the Kaiju genre.
There also noted similarities to Neon Genesis Evangelion, if Neve fired Gendo and Hired General Flag from GI Joe, replace the Eva units with Gigantor sized Big O Mecha, The Monsters are classic Godzilla archetypes mix with a touch of Call of Cthulhu , And Rei Ayanami being the co-pilot to Duke.


So just because it is a new IP means it's.... good? Even if it's made up of a 1000 different ideas which have been done over and over and over again, which you listed? That doesn't make it good or complex, the movie is on the same simple level as Grown Ups 2, the appeal is stupid and it really doesn't bring anything new to the table so why is one heralded as 'AMAZING' and the other is spat at and disgraced?

And at the same time, remakes/reboots of existing IPs can be a good thing, I mean look at the revenge trilogy or Fight Club or Kick Ass or any other movie that was originally a book or some other media which was improved with a film remake. There is nothing new under the sun and you'd be hard pressed to find anything truly original, everything is rehashed or repackaged with a new name and that is exactly what Pacific Rim is, just a rehash of 'big shit punching more big shit'.
 

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DerangedHobo said:
Why would you read a book? We have the internet, we have video games, we have movies, we have much much more effective ways of conveying an idea and emotion. The smugness and sense of superiority over 'the mainstream' is palpable.
Because many ideas worth exploring cannot be fully explored in any of those media. Communicating emotion may be admirable, but it isn't everything. Losing a greater ability to understand and appreciate those ideas because of "TLDR" isn't something that should be tolerated or defended; those ideas are far too important to an underlying ability to make informed decisions.

That "smugness and sense of superiority" was not absent-minded or reflexive. Calling it out is only a criticism if it isn't justified. People should read books. People who don't read books are less capable than those who do.
 

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I'm just hoping, praying that it'll do better in the long-run while Grown-Ups 2 dies in it's first week.
 

DerangedHobo

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People who don't read books are less capable than those who do
They really aren't, all of that information, all of that intrigue, that message can shown in another medium or at the very least condensed and shown in footnotes, I mean 1984 may have social commentary out of the ass but I don't have to read that to get the message, all I'm losing by reading a summary is the tension and buildup.
 

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Being beaten by GU may be bad, but honestly PR looks absolutely shit and the rim I think of when I saw it was not the Pacific!
 

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I live in Canada and it's been out for a week but I have to wait another week to see it because WWZ is staying in another week and the new film is some POS Sandra Bullock Vehicle. FML.