Palpatine's Propoganda

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In this society's history, human beings where for a very large portion of time unequal. Those with money could afford the requirements of war such as horses and planes, and would almost always defeat the untried and poorly equipped lower classes brought against them.
Indeed it was only with the invention of repeating blaster technology, the battlefield took on a semblance of equality.

With the industrialization of warfare that followed, no one person could hold the same influence in times of war as before. Even in a tactical sense, the new emphasis on squad initiative as exemplified by the Mandalorian successes.

The result of which was a period of great upheaval in which many facets of the old order was destroyed or subverted to create a new balance of power between people and the state. The absolutism of ages past was impossible now that all armed citizenry could take out most advanced trooper with 1 blaster shot.
With the addition of a liberal democracy to stem the tide against mob rule, society embarked on a period of great stability only hampered by extra-national threats or the citizen indifference to decay.

But once again, we see the elitism of combat has created a society suffering from rampant rebellion, revolution, and chaos. Before the Jedi, we had a government that lasted millenia. With them we have barely maintained the trappings of cooperation. I am speaking, of course, about the Force users.

Consider, the greatest destructive force our modern Galaxy has has always been the Sith, and almost all Sith recieve followers if not training from the Jedi temples (in part why there destruction was such a high priority). The Jedi themselves serve to undermine the authority of police forces and instil an unproper sense of rebellion in the populations they interact with.

Simply put, force sensitives are walking timebombs, each capable of destroying entire worlds through coercion and individual superiority. Once they have corrupted a system and dozens of soldiers are unable to be brought against them simultaneously, the only way to dislodge them is with another, more powerful Jedi.

If we simply banned those with any proclivity for force ability from holding positions of authority, and executed those who still existed with knowledge of the Force, our democracy would not suffer such ravages.

Yes, rogue force sensitives would exist, but without training and no way to obtain serious galatic power, the system can deal with them as it deals with other more mundane threats.

Order 66 was brilliantly executed, but we cannot count on the same level of suprise in future encounters, and must organize a comprehensive task force to hunt down and kill those who've escaped. It is with great hope we impart this auspicious goal to you, the citizenry, for we must ask for assistance in completing this grand venture so long in coming.
We implore those with knowledge of Jedi activity to please report them to your local magistrate. Search out the strange and discover if it is Force-based. Do not let a stone go unturned. We cannot underemphasis the risks if these individuals are not brought to justice.



-Pamphlet distrubed by Imperial Troopers on Coruscant
 

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hmm..I thought this was going to be a post about how it was so forced that he changed Anakin in ROTS. I personally thought that could have been handled way better.
 
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Cpt. Red post=18.69222.653523 said:
Interesting wall of text but lacks of discussion or something similar.
It's supposed to be a pamphlet for a tyrannical goverment. Of course it isn't going to discuss alternative viewpoints.
 

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Imitation Saccharin post=18.69222.654234 said:
Cpt. Red post=18.69222.653523 said:
Interesting wall of text but lacks of discussion or something similar.
It's supposed to be a pamphlet for a tyrannical goverment. Of course it isn't going to discuss alternative viewpoints.
I Think people are wondering what you want us to do with this thread?

What -really- is the topic?
 

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Imitation Saccharin post=18.69222.654280 said:
I'd presume discussion of the pamphlet itself, but then I'm just a lowly poster.
Umm, you posted the thing. So, say something about it.

-- Alex
 
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Alex_P post=18.69222.654301 said:
Umm, you posted the thing. So, say something about it.

-- Alex
So..basically what you're telling me is no one has anything to say about a positional piece that calls for the murder of innocent men, women and children in the name of peace? That's insufficiently controversial?

What else would you have me say? What if Palpatine was gay? How am I supposed to know what will get discussion flowing! I made it all Star wars-y!
 

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Imitation Saccharin post=18.69222.654334 said:
Alex_P post=18.69222.654301 said:
Umm, you posted the thing. So, say something about it.

-- Alex
So..basically what you're telling me is no one has anything to say about a positional piece that calls for the murder of innocent men, women and children in the name of peace? That's insufficiently controversial?

What else would you have me say? What if Palpatine was gay? How am I supposed to know what will get discussion flowing! I made it all Star wars-y!
Why should we have anything to say about it if you don't?

If you want a bunch of post-sauce on your copy-pasta, take it over to the RP forum and use it as a starting point for a big meatball of a plot. If you build a story, they will come.
 

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Imitation Saccharin post=18.69222.654334 said:
So..basically what you're telling me is no one has anything to say about a positional piece that calls for the murder of innocent men, women and children in the name of peace? That's insufficiently controversial?
No, I'm saying that you should provide some kind of context for discussion. What do you want to talk about?

Do you want to talk about the political statement in the work?

Do you want to talk about the political statement you're making by writing the work?

Do you want to talk about Star Wars?

Do you want someone to educate you about pamphleteering or tell you how to improve your prose?

-- Alex
 
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mshcherbatskaya post=18.69222.654357 said:
Why should we have anything to say about it if you don't?
Because the position has been stated! The pro side has spoken and all that's left is the con side to provide a counter arguement. It's the opening salvo, you don't keep hammering the point you wait for the re....

Nuts to it, I give up.
 

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PROTIP: If you want to have a debate about a fanfiction position paper that you wrote, start the thread with the words "Hey, everybody, let's have a debate about this fanfiction position paper I just wrote."

-- Alex
 

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Imitation Saccharin post=18.69222.654363 said:
mshcherbatskaya post=18.69222.654357 said:
Why should we have anything to say about it if you don't?
Because the position has been stated! The pro side has spoken and all that's left is the con side to provide a counter arguement. It's the opening salvo, you don't keep hammering the point you wait for the re....

Nuts to it, I give up.
A position has been stated, but you've never specified that it is your position. If you say you agree with it, or if you say you don't, I can then agree or disagree with your opinion. However, you've not stated any opinion of your own, so we are left waiting for you to do more than copy and paste someone else's words.

I'm having an overwhelming sense of deja vu. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3HaRFBSq9k]

EDIT: Or did you actually write this yourself? I can't really be moved to have a serious debate about a wingnut political pamphlet in a totally fictional society. Do I think all Force users should be imprisoned and/or killed? Of course not! Silly question. Do I have any anxiety or concerns about anti-Force user oppression. Of course not! Silly question. If you have a deeper point to make or question to ask, put it to the forum, but don't just throw down some random fictional thing and expect us to entertain you.
 
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mshcherbatskaya post=18.69222.654453 said:
I can't really be moved to have a serious debate about a wingnut political pamphlet in a totally fictional society.
A Modest Proposal 1, unintentionally hilarious internet guy 0

Alex_P post=18.69222.654378 said:
PROTIP: If you want to have a debate about a fanfiction position paper that you wrote, start the thread with the words "Hey, everybody, let's have a debate about this fanfiction position paper I just wrote."

-- Alex
I made the choice for total immersion. It wasn't the best choice I've ever made, but there you are.
 

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Alex_P post=18.69222.654358 said:
Imitation Saccharin post=18.69222.654334 said:
So..basically what you're telling me is no one has anything to say about a positional piece that calls for the murder of innocent men, women and children in the name of peace? That's insufficiently controversial?
No, I'm saying that you should provide some kind of context for discussion. What do you want to talk about?

Do you want to talk about the political statement in the work?

Do you want to talk about the political statement you're making by writing the work?

Do you want to talk about Star Wars?

Do you want someone to educate you about pamphleteering or tell you how to improve your prose?

-- Alex
this reminds me of the paper clip guy from MS Word, the one that would pop up and ask if you'd like to write a resume or a suicide note or whatever.

Also, being an outside observer of what force users can accomplish (Senator Palpatine's ascension to emperor for instance) and not being a force user myself I agree entirely with the genocide proposed by this pamphlet.