Paradox

[Trivun]

He hangs the guy. It's pretty simple, this is by no means a paradox.

Scenario: The guy is lying and doesn't want to be hanged. Then he should be hanged by the hangman's own rules.

Scenario: The guy is telling the truth and wants to be hanged. Then the hangman has no qualms about hanging him anyway. It then becomes a moral problem instead.

New paradoxical problem: Can anybody explain the Twin Paradox...

 

[Danman1]

He doesn't hang him? It's pretty damn simple dude, not a paradox.


EDIT: this would be a paradox, Two people from the same universe, with the same home planet, and the same name, with the same parents BUT different grandparents, brothers and sisters are what?

THAT is how you do it men! - Soldier, TF2

One of them went back in time and slept with one of their grandparents?

 

[Ekonk]

He won't hang him.

A real paradox:
There is a man, and he walks up to you and says, "Everything I say is a lie."
Is he telling the truth?

No, he is lying.

If he was telling the truth then nothing would make sense. However, if he is lying about this, that means that he occasionally tells the truth. We don't know, but since him telling the truth does not make sense, then the only logical explanation is that he is lying right now, but not always.

A real paradox is if I'd say 'All Dutchmen always lie.' (I'm Dutch.)

WHATYA THINK OF THAT HUH

 

[Cherry Cola]

He won't hang him.

A real paradox:
There is a man, and he walks up to you and says, "Everything I say is a lie."
Is he telling the truth?

No, he is lying.

If he was telling the truth then nothing would make sense. However, if he is lying about this, that means that he occasionally tells the truth. We don't know, but since him telling the truth does not make sense, then the only logical explanation is that he is lying right now, but not always.

A real paradox is if I'd say 'All Dutchmen always lie.' (I'm Dutch.)

WHATYA THINK OF THAT HUH

I think that you will be forever shunned by all Dutchmen for trying to make a generalization out of all of them.

 

[GloatingSwine]

He won't hang him.

A real paradox:
There is a man, and he walks up to you and says, "Everything I say is a lie."
Is he telling the truth?

He's lying.

The answer the first one, the man would hang him. No one goes up to a weirdo on a hill and asks to be hanged, he's lying.

Maybe he's suicidal, and since there's a guy on a hill handing out free nooses, thought it was better than self-service.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

I'm not sure if this is a paradox.
'Perfection is a paradox, because in order to be perfect, one must be perfect at being imperfect.'

 

[Jamface]

Say lol noob.

 

[Danman1]

He hangs the guy. It's pretty simple, this is by no means a paradox.

Scenario: The guy is lying and doesn't want to be hanged. Then he should be hanged by the hangman's own rules.

Scenario: The guy is telling the truth and wants to be hanged. Then the hangman has no qualms about hanging him anyway. It then becomes a moral problem instead.

I think the OP meant that the hangman ONLY hangs people who lie about where they are going. So suppose he refuses to hang people who have not lied. That means that the man will still end up being a liar because he cannot be hanged. But now that he can be hanged he is telling the truth. So he must be set free and not hanged, which makes him a liar.

 

[RabidusUnus]

He won't hang him.

A real paradox:
There is a man, and he walks up to you and says, "Everything I say is a lie."
Is he telling the truth?

He's lying.

The answer the first one, the man would hang him. No one goes up to a weirdo on a hill and asks to be hanged, he's lying.

Maybe he's suicidal, and since there's a guy on a hill handing out free nooses, thought it was better than self-service.

If he's lying about telling a lie, then he must be telling the truth, which is impossible because he says that everything he says is a lie.

 

[GloatingSwine]

He won't hang him.

A real paradox:
There is a man, and he walks up to you and says, "Everything I say is a lie."
Is he telling the truth?

Impossible to determine without priveleged access to his mental state.

Epiphenomenologically, we can only assume that he believes that what he is telling you is correct, and therefore he is not lying, because a lie is an intentional falsehood with intent to decieve.

Without prior experience of this man which would allow us to make a judgement about his current mental state, we cannot determine whether he is "lying". He could be entirely sincere in his belief that he always lies. He could be an escaped asylum inmate who speaks entirely in non-sequiturs. He could, simply, be on very very fine drugs.

 

[Danzaivar]

The hang man isn't someone who only hangs liars.

edit: And he didn't lie about where he's going. He said 'he has come' which is true, the bit for debate is the second part which has nothing to do with physical destinations.

 

[Toaster Hunter]

He would just shoot him. Nothing was said about him not shooting anyone, lying or otherwise. Seriously, my brain hurts now.

 

[GloatingSwine]

I think the OP meant that the hangman ONLY hangs people who lie about where they are going. So suppose he refuses to hang people who have not lied. That means that the man will still end up being a liar because he cannot be hanged. But now that he can be hanged he is telling the truth. So he must be set free and not hanged, which makes him a liar.

Even in that case, you would have to show that the man coming to be hanged knew that the hangman only hanged people who lied about why they had come to him. If he did not know that he was still not lying, that was truthfully the reason he had come to the hill.

 

[yoyo13rom]

He won't hang him.

A real paradox:
There is a man, and he walks up to you and says, "Everything I say is a lie."
Is he telling the truth?

No he isn't. But he's just lying now.
If he were telling the truth, then what he's saying now is nullifying his actions.
But if he doesn't lie all the time, he can lie sometimes. So now he is lying.

OT: The hangman hangs only those who lie, so:
1. the dude isn't lying but the hangman can't fulfill his wish.
2. the dude didn't came to be hanged, but by saying he did, he lied. So the hangman will kill him.

In my opinion, there are no real possible paradoxes, just good logic games, or problems that are wrong, or missing something.

 

[Ekonk]

He won't hang him.

A real paradox:
There is a man, and he walks up to you and says, "Everything I say is a lie."
Is he telling the truth?

No, he is lying.

If he was telling the truth then nothing would make sense. However, if he is lying about this, that means that he occasionally tells the truth. We don't know, but since him telling the truth does not make sense, then the only logical explanation is that he is lying right now, but not always.

A real paradox is if I'd say 'All Dutchmen always lie.' (I'm Dutch.)

WHATYA THINK OF THAT HUH

I think that you will be forever shunned by all Dutchmen for trying to make a generalization out of all of them.

You manage to make a surprising amount of sense out of all this.

 

[mugetsu37]

He won't hang him.

A real paradox:
There is a man, and he walks up to you and says, "Everything I say is a lie."
Is he telling the truth?

No, he's lying. The negation of that statement wouldn't be "Everything I say is the truth", but "Not everything I say is a lie", which is still valid and doesn't restrict him to just the truth.

 

[Cherry Cola]

He won't hang him.

A real paradox:
There is a man, and he walks up to you and says, "Everything I say is a lie."
Is he telling the truth?

No, he is lying.

If he was telling the truth then nothing would make sense. However, if he is lying about this, that means that he occasionally tells the truth. We don't know, but since him telling the truth does not make sense, then the only logical explanation is that he is lying right now, but not always.

A real paradox is if I'd say 'All Dutchmen always lie.' (I'm Dutch.)

WHATYA THINK OF THAT HUH

I think that you will be forever shunned by all Dutchmen for trying to make a generalization out of all of them.

You manage to make a surprising amount of sense out of all this.

It surprised me as well. Not every day you get to make sense on the internet!

 

[mip0]

He doesn't. The only reason the hangman hangs people is if they lie to him.

EDIT: Unless that man was lying...

I think so too.

But what's the meaning of this thread? Do you want us to try and solve the paradox or do you want us to post other paradoxes?

 

[Quaxar]

His head explodes because of the paradox, causing a shockwave that kills the man too. Tough luck

-snip-

Wow, your new avatar confuses me. I almost thought I'd postet that

 

[CloakedOne]

We're assuming the hang man has the magical lie-detector ability in order to justly hang someone who is lying to him. Because this is so, the man probably does not have this ability and hangs everyone assuring himself that everyone is a liar and should be hanged anyway.