passive suicide

[vampirekid.13]

I NO LONGER HAVE ANY CONTACT WITH THIS PERSON AND I KNOW NO WAY TO REACH HIM. ANYTHING YOU POST HERE IS JUST YOUR OPINION ON WHAT HE WAS DOING. NOT SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP HIM IN ANY WAY AS I HAVE NO WAY TO TRANSMIT IT TO HIM.

now before we go on with this the purpose behind this thread is to discuss and share opinions on or about passive suicide as well as share any personal accounts you have with this phenomenon.

my personal account is this: My old manager and his GF broke up a few years back. He has no real good friends and no family. he has an ok job that gets him an apartment, food and enough to drink himself to sleep every night. He was told to stop drinking or he would die from his liver failure (since he's been warned early he would not qualify for a liver transplant). since he's been told this he has upped his drinking by A LOT. i asked him why he said "well if i kill myself any other way i wont get the life insurace money i want to go to my X-gf"

basically he is kiling himself in such a way as to win life insurance money for his next of kin.

i am really unsure what to think of this. he's not really doing anything "illegal" but he is getting himself killed. what are your opinions on it? any encounters with this weird phenomenon u got?

 

[AkJay]

If he wants to, let him.

 

[Undeleted]

Why haven't you gotten your friend professional help? Stop posting about it on the internet and do something!

 

[vampirekid.13]

If he wants to, let him.

im not stopping him. he's not doing anything illegal. he's not a close friend either, i told him he shoudlnt. he said he doesnt care. thats about it, what im wondering is what do you think about this...ingenious?... idea. i dont even know if its brilliant or retarded to be honest im just so amazed someone would try it.

Why haven't you gotten your friend professional help? Stop posting about it on the internet and do something!

A. i am not in touch with this person any longer, i dont know where he works any longer, nor do i know his number, nor is he my friend, he was my old manager.

also back at the time i coudlnt decide if he needs any help or not, he's a perfectly logical human being that is consiously making the choice to die. i dont know what to think of that.

but most importantly i have no strings attached to this anymore. i dont know where he is now and i have no way to reach him. so yeh.

 

[KaiRai]

Okay, I've been there. Admittedly my "attempted suicide" was actually just taking 4 paracetamol as a result of years of abuse by my father. But he NEEDS to know this. Driving himself into this stage will only make him worse. He needs to know that there are people out there who WILL miss him, and WILL be upset that he's gone. Even if this isn't true, he needs to know that there are people there for him, and that people will miss him and be upset. no girl is worth suicide, and he needs to know that..

Anything I say here is truly from the heart and the mind through past experience. Drinking only leads to stupid things, as I mentioned at the start. this is someone who's had experience with being down and trying to drink the pain away. If you're having not the greatest time (Like I was, it wasn't great but certainly not enough to qualify what I tried) then drinking can only make it 1,000,000 times worse. Take this from a former borderline alcoholic. I hope all that I've said helps him.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, any drink that makes these feelings more so, try and steer him away from it. you say you don't care, but if you care enough to be concerned, you care enough to try and help him. Be the good guy he needs.

 

[Soulgaunt]

Why haven't you gotten your friend professional help? Stop posting about it on the internet and do something!

What?! Posting on the internet doesn't cure everything!? (Also, you have an awesome avatar )

On Topic: I haven't heard of such a thing, but it sounds like your buddy needs a good hobby.....Maybe one that doesn't involve drinking?

 

[Akai Shizuku]

I know someone who wanted to die so badly that they tried everything to screw themselves up, and smoking as a final measure.

 

[vampirekid.13]

EDIT: I forgot to mention, any drink that makes these feelings more so, try and steer him away from it. you say you don't care, but if you care enough to be concerned, you care enough to try and help him. Be the good guy he needs.

ok look. its been 2 years. i dont know where he lives, where he works, and we no longer live anywhere close to eachother. i dont have his phone number, nor anything other than his first name. i posted this now because i have no connection with the guy. i dont want advice on how to save him. i want opinions on what he's doing.

 

[Undeleted]

A. i am not in touch with this person any longer, i dont know where he works any longer, nor do i know his number, nor is he my friend, he was my old manager.

also back at the time i coudlnt decide if he needs any help or not, he's a perfectly logical human being that is consiously making the choice to die. i dont know what to think of that.

but most importantly i have no strings attached to this anymore. i dont know where he is now and i have no way to reach him. so yeh.

You are a terrible person for not trying to prevent a potential suicide when you had the chance. Here's a tip for the next time you're about to walk away from someone who is contemplating swallowing a pile of pills or drinking themselves to death: someone who wants to kill himself is not logical or rational.

 

[Rigs83]

Why haven't you gotten your friend professional help? Stop posting about it on the internet and do something!

Read the the story. It's his old manager so as someone who has worked in retail for longer than I care to admit I could imagine letting a manager slowly die while I stand by and do nothing.

[HEADING=2]And yes, technically I am a bastard.[/HEADING]

 

[Undeleted]

Why haven't you gotten your friend professional help? Stop posting about it on the internet and do something!

Read the the story. It's his old manager so as someone who has worked in retail for longer than I care to admit I could imagine letting a manager slowly die while I stand by and do nothing.

[HEADING=2]And yes, technically I am a bastard.[/HEADING]

The original post was unclear and everything was in the present tense. Just because the suicidal man was the OP's manager doesn't mean they couldn't have a friendship.

 

[vampirekid.13]

A. i am not in touch with this person any longer, i dont know where he works any longer, nor do i know his number, nor is he my friend, he was my old manager.

also back at the time i coudlnt decide if he needs any help or not, he's a perfectly logical human being that is consiously making the choice to die. i dont know what to think of that.

but most importantly i have no strings attached to this anymore. i dont know where he is now and i have no way to reach him. so yeh.

You are a terrible person for not trying to prevent a potential suicide when you had the chance. Here's a tip for the next time you're about to walk away from someone who is contemplating swallowing a pile of pills or drinking themselves to death: someone who wants to kill himself is not logical or rational.

lol. i did try to, i told him to get professional help and stop drinking. so did the rest of his co-workers.

 

[bodyklok]

I think that, in this case, this man has the right to choose what he wants to do with his life. It's his right.

That's not to say I always support suicide, sometimes it can just be misguided, especially when it's in adolescents, but he's a fully grown man, and, maybe he can't choose what's best for him right now, but I'm not about to stop him.

 

[KaiRai]

EDIT: I forgot to mention, any drink that makes these feelings more so, try and steer him away from it. you say you don't care, but if you care enough to be concerned, you care enough to try and help him. Be the good guy he needs.

ok look. its been 2 years. i dont know where he lives, where he works, and we no longer live anywhere close to eachother. i dont have his phone number, nor anything other than his first name. i posted this now because i have no connection with the guy. i dont want advice on how to save him. i want opinions on what he's doing.

I don't know how to help him then. All I know from personal experience, is if he's not having a the best of times, he's a fucking idiot for drinking what he knows will make him depressed or violent. I'm not depressed and I'm not a depressive person, but what I drink (beer) makes me both these things. My opinion? If he knows what he's doing, he's only on a road to self destruction.

 

[vampirekid.13]

I think that, in this case, this man has the right to choose what he wants to do with his life. It's his right.

That's not to say I always support suicide, sometimes it can just be misguided, especially when it's in adolescents, but he's a fully grown man, and, maybe he can't choose what's best for him right now, but I'm not about to stop him.

thats pretty much my stance on it too. he was a grown ass man, he knew what would happen if he kept it up, i suggested he get help and stop drinking. im not about to actively make it my business to stop him when he's not doing anything illegal.


i mean really even if i called the cops all he'd say is "i have no idea what he's talking about" since you know...drinking isnt illegal.

 

[beckett360]

Get that man to therapy.

Don't force him though.

 

[Undeleted]

lol. i did try to, i told him to get professional help and stop drinking. so did the rest of his co-workers.

Another tip for the next time you come across someone thinking about killing himself: simply telling him to get help isn't enough and you know it. There is so much more that you could do.
Also you live in Hawaii!! How hard can it be to find someone on such a tiny island?

 

[quiet_samurai]

That's not passive at all. He's actively trying top kill himself. I honestly think if a person wants to kill themself then they have every single right to do so. Well hopefully he'll come around.

 

[vampirekid.13]

lol. i did try to, i told him to get professional help and stop drinking. so did the rest of his co-workers.

Another tip for the next time you come across someone thinking about killing himself: simply telling him to get help isn't enough and you know it. There is so much more that you could do.
Also you live in Hawaii!! How hard can it be to find someone on such a tiny island?

i live in hawaii, he doesnt.


also its not my business to get in his personal life after he conciously made a choice that is not illegal. if i was in his shoes id be nothing more than annoyed at some random kid (and i mean kid cuz i was less than 18 at the time) trying to stop me from drinking.


here's a tip. your comments are completely offtopic and unwanted. i dont care what you think about what i chose to do. i did everything within reasonable reach for me to do. the guy has a life and im not even a friend of his. its not my place to interfere in it. now either post comments on topic or dont post in the thread. not everyone wants to save the world and every manic depressive retard they meet in life.

i waited this long just in case someone ends up calling the police on this thread i can honestly say "i have no idea where he is, what he ended up doing or his name". lol.

 

[Straitjacketeering]

Blech you guyz, some people actually don't care if they die. If he seriously really wants to end it. (Like no looking back stoof.) Just let him, he's not breaking the law mind your own buiscrack.

I drink moar den the average bear, yes I know it'll end me and yeah I know it's bad but in the end it's WTFlet me do my own thing, not, WTF I want help cant you tell?

I call this... Gregory House Syndrome.