They advertize this as a PC game, and then they take away server browser, mod tools, Steam and god knows what else. Brilliant!
The game isn't even out, how do you know its a disaster? Web browser or some other external method of finding servers isn't exactly a new idea. If the game is built around it I see no reason why it can't work just fine.gussy1z said:The game looks great but everything to do with the game has been a disaster.
I played that game too and I personally hated that service. Lots of people don't like they way they are handling the pre-order DLC stuff (myself included). Im also not too happy about having to install and sign up to origin. As well as the game being priced ~ £10 more than most games do. I was being over-dramatic earlier but there are a lot of things i don't like about this.MartialArc said:The game isn't even out, how do you know its a disaster? Web browser or some other external method of finding servers isn't exactly a new idea. If the game is built around it I see no reason why it can't work just fine.gussy1z said:The game looks great but everything to do with the game has been a disaster.
It could very well be that it winds up working great and other games copy the idea. I can think of nothing that makes me more upset than games that don't alt-tab well. And it seems to me that usually certain games alt-tab poorly, not certain computers.
I used to play Rogue spear with a setup like this, MSN gaming zone IIRC. You clicked a button on a webpage, the game launched and connected, worked well. Technology has come a long way since ~2000 so it would probably work better now than I remember it back then.
You do realize you have to be online in order to play online right? So Always On DRM isn't a problem if it only affects the ONLINE component.lacktheknack said:And yet, it's still as bad as Always On DRM.ChickenZombie said:You dont have to Alt-Tab out. You hit exit game and it takes you directly to your browser, which has the server browser on it. I'ts really quick, easy to use, and makes sense. ive used it, and it works a hell of a lot better than a lot of other browsers I have used.lacktheknack said:Alt-Tab is the direct opposite of efficient. Besides, it suffers EXACTLY the same issues as "Always-On DRM". You know, the most reviled thing that developers have done, ever.Ivan Torres said:>More efficient UI = being lazyMr.K. said:Wow do people have low standards.Couch Radish said:What's wrong with a Facebook-esque way to check stats and join games? Really, what's wrong?
Isn't saying you're going to cancel a pre-order a little hasty, by something you haven't even seen or used?
It's a cleaner and simpler way to do that. It's just that.
And they have to have a server browser on the consoles because viewing a Webpage and even using it is a damn nightmare. I owned a PS3 once.
OK let me explain what in development circles a web page UI translates to "laziest bodge job known to man", only seen in the shittiest of indie games, a triple A title with that... there was none before this.
Your logic baffles me.
Not counting the server browser, since supposedly it's being replaced by a better UI, all of those are simply luxuries that us PC Gamers take for granted. Steam and mods aren't what makes a PC game, being on PC is what makes a PC Game. Besides, they'll find a way to mod it, THEY ALWAYS DO.ImprovizoR said:They advertize this as a PC game, and then they take away server browser, mod tools, Steam and god knows what else. Brilliant!
Everyone's telling me that my main menu is a webpage.Ivan Torres said:You do realize you have to be online in order to play online right? So Always On DRM isn't a problem if it only affects the ONLINE component.lacktheknack said:And yet, it's still as bad as Always On DRM.ChickenZombie said:You dont have to Alt-Tab out. You hit exit game and it takes you directly to your browser, which has the server browser on it. I'ts really quick, easy to use, and makes sense. ive used it, and it works a hell of a lot better than a lot of other browsers I have used.lacktheknack said:Alt-Tab is the direct opposite of efficient. Besides, it suffers EXACTLY the same issues as "Always-On DRM". You know, the most reviled thing that developers have done, ever.Ivan Torres said:>More efficient UI = being lazyMr.K. said:Wow do people have low standards.Couch Radish said:What's wrong with a Facebook-esque way to check stats and join games? Really, what's wrong?
Isn't saying you're going to cancel a pre-order a little hasty, by something you haven't even seen or used?
It's a cleaner and simpler way to do that. It's just that.
And they have to have a server browser on the consoles because viewing a Webpage and even using it is a damn nightmare. I owned a PS3 once.
OK let me explain what in development circles a web page UI translates to "laziest bodge job known to man", only seen in the shittiest of indie games, a triple A title with that... there was none before this.
Your logic baffles me.
That's the way I see it alright, since you can't play Single Player unless you have a net connection to reach the website/webpage.lacktheknack said:Everyone's telling me that my main menu is a webpage.
You access single-player from the main menu.
Hence, just as bad as Always On.
I have to agree, the BC2 browser and friends list stuff was so god aweful. This new one at least stands a chance of working now.Navenis said:In the alpha the battle log system worked great and is actually much better than the rather awful
bfbc2 in game browser.
Edit: game really does start up fast like 5 seconds less time than the bfbc2 broswer spent time wasting when you tried to join a server.
We can.WolfLordAndy said:I hope that we can just alt-tab out of BF3 and use the server browser...
Was this new news to anyone here, lets have a show of hands....EA thumbs its nose at the PC
I was actually trying to act all elitist and whatnot. I don't care about the server browser. I played the alpha and the game does start up fast. Faster than it took BC2 to load a map anyway. So I don't really care about this. I will just open a browser, log in and browse for servers. I don't think I'll play on more than one server in one session anyway. I never did that before in Battlefield. And they can always patch the server browser in later if enough players really want it.Ivan Torres said:You do realize you have to be online in order to play online right? So Always On DRM isn't a problem if it only affects the ONLINE component.lacktheknack said:And yet, it's still as bad as Always On DRM.ChickenZombie said:You dont have to Alt-Tab out. You hit exit game and it takes you directly to your browser, which has the server browser on it. I'ts really quick, easy to use, and makes sense. ive used it, and it works a hell of a lot better than a lot of other browsers I have used.lacktheknack said:Alt-Tab is the direct opposite of efficient. Besides, it suffers EXACTLY the same issues as "Always-On DRM". You know, the most reviled thing that developers have done, ever.Ivan Torres said:>More efficient UI = being lazyMr.K. said:Wow do people have low standards.Couch Radish said:What's wrong with a Facebook-esque way to check stats and join games? Really, what's wrong?
Isn't saying you're going to cancel a pre-order a little hasty, by something you haven't even seen or used?
It's a cleaner and simpler way to do that. It's just that.
And they have to have a server browser on the consoles because viewing a Webpage and even using it is a damn nightmare. I owned a PS3 once.
OK let me explain what in development circles a web page UI translates to "laziest bodge job known to man", only seen in the shittiest of indie games, a triple A title with that... there was none before this.
Your logic baffles me.
Not counting the server browser, since supposedly it's being replaced by a better UI, all of those are simply luxuries that us PC Gamers take for granted. Steam and mods aren't what makes a PC game, being on PC is what makes a PC Game. Besides, they'll find a way to mod it, THEY ALWAYS DO.ImprovizoR said:They advertize this as a PC game, and then they take away server browser, mod tools, Steam and god knows what else. Brilliant!
Sensational? Ignorant is more like it. The title is a joke.DownWind said:The article looks slightly sensationalist.