PC/Console gamers.

[Bat Vader]

I am seriously sick and tired of how both console and PC gamers ***** and moan about what is better. They are no better than children and saying how their toy is better than your toy. I understand that people have different opinions but when you get someone who just acts like a PC or Console is GOD's gift to gaming than that person is a serious fanboy/girl or elitist.

It is no better than Narcissism. Just because something is superior does not give that person the right to walk over other people because they own a piece of gaming hardware!

I like both the PC and the Consoles but to some people that is a sin against nature.

Enough of my ranting. What do you The Escapist users think? I would like to know.

If every game was released on every platform, then it would really come down to each person's preference.

I just don't like playing on a console except for racing games, guitar hero and whatever you want to call Assassin's Creed. The idea of using a thumbstick for any kind of precision/accuracy is just downright unacceptable for me plus the fact that my PC can run circles around the consoles (Like GTA4: Blurry and slow on my Xbox... sharp, better looking, real fast and actually accurate controls on my PC. Like I can now shoot the tires off a car I'm pursuing or even headshot the driver.) So what pisses me off and makes me hate consoles are fucking exclusives.

I like both the PC and Consoles. That is more the companies fault for paying a shit-load of money for the exclusive rights to the game.

 

[BolognaBaloney]

Anyone who discounts one, over the other, is looking at it through biased eyes. The consoles have their place, and the PC's have their place. But, I must say, that PC's can and will do anything the consoles do, better. If you have the money to shell out for the parts. Fact of the matter is, consoles just don't have the ability to be as competitive as PC's, because they're comprised of static hardware, that stays static for multiple years, up to a decade. What's interesting, is that, in the past, the consoles were the supreme leaders in graphical fidelity, while PC's struggled to keep up. But since this hardware cycle came out for the consoles...they STARTED on last-gen technology. Sure, their GPU's are hybrids....but...not hybrids of the current gen tech. They're hybrids of 7900 series Nvidia cards, and the R500/R600 of ATI's.

But, it's really the application that's important. I'm not about to play Tekken, or Street Fighter, on my PC. Even if I had a controller for my PC. It's just stupid. Same with any other fighter for that matter. Likewise, with Gran Turismo, that's never going to hit my PC (even if PD would release it on PC), I prefer the pressure sensitive PS3 controller, because...well, you don't just hop in your car and mat the gas, when you're taking off. That's silly. But, FPS, RTS, TPS? PC is the ultimate ruler. In my 'opinion', mouse and keyboard support vastly exceeds the abilities of controllers in most genres. Again, this is opinion, so please, take a deep breath before you respond. Heh.

So, it really comes down to what you're using it for. I have a PS3 for fighting games, racing games, and other 1st/2nd party games that Sony distributes, that will never hit PC. I have my PC, for all multi-platform titles, FPS', TPS', RTS' and the like.


Morne

While PC is superior, the cost of purchasing and maintaining a decent gaming computer drastically reduces it's market, hence cutting the potential for companies to create pc-games. So while PC is by technical means superior, consoles receive more attention because of the mass of the market that they control.

 

[skcseth]

i would enjoy console gaming more... if i could afford a rig that could handle it. i don't even think i can run minesweeper at 2fps on this thing =/

 

[jamesworkshop]

What's interesting, is that, in the past, the consoles were the supreme leaders in graphical fidelity, while PC's struggled to keep up.
Morne

Errm since when? the amiga used excatly the same processor as the Sega megadrive but had noticably better graphics

 

[veloper]

What's interesting, is that, in the past, the consoles were the supreme leaders in graphical fidelity, while PC's struggled to keep up.

When was that? Which console?

 

[Firebert]

RTS's and FPS's are much better to play on PC, in my opinion, but I do prefer console gaming because I don't really have access to a great gaming computer.

 

[PrinceMarth]

I've played both for my whole life. And for me it really comes down to the genre of game.

FPS: I prefer PC but will play console
RTS: PC
RPG: Either or
Action: Console
Action RPG: Console
Turn based Strategy: Either or
Horror Survival: Prefer Console
MMORPG: PC
Fighter: Arcade but those aren't too popular these days so Console
Puzzle: Either or

The only people who really go at it are the FPS kids.

 

[Kstreitenfeld]

Obviously, the age old belief that shooters play better on a PC comes to mind...And in my opinion they do...

Then you have the RTS, I also know from personal experiences and beliefs that those play better on a PC...I have yet to play Halo Wars but I heard that might start to change some of that

However, those are practically the only genres where a PC has a definitive advantage...I would probably play the other genres more on a console than I would a PC

Well I just thought of another advantage for PC which is mods...Elder Scrolls come to mind...

But everything else always seemed weird without a controller...Also co-op can really be done on a console and I am a real sucker for local co-op...

I love both...I will never give 1 up for the other...

The only real genres that would have bad controls due to the mouse / keyboard setup would be sport / racing / fighting games. And that can be fixed via other options.

As for everything else besides RTS / FPS / MMO (which play the best on PC) it comes down to personal preference.

I personally prefer the Mouse + Keyboard config for all of my games besides sport / racing / fighting games, but I don't even play those type of games anyway.

 

[Samurai Ralan]

I use to fanboy this, fanboy that back in middle school until I realized I love all videogames. All that matters is if you're having fun, not how many pixelzorz you can get or exclusives you have.

 

[Bat Vader]

Anyone who discounts one, over the other, is looking at it through biased eyes. The consoles have their place, and the PC's have their place. But, I must say, that PC's can and will do anything the consoles do, better. If you have the money to shell out for the parts. Fact of the matter is, consoles just don't have the ability to be as competitive as PC's, because they're comprised of static hardware, that stays static for multiple years, up to a decade. What's interesting, is that, in the past, the consoles were the supreme leaders in graphical fidelity, while PC's struggled to keep up. But since this hardware cycle came out for the consoles...they STARTED on last-gen technology. Sure, their GPU's are hybrids....but...not hybrids of the current gen tech. They're hybrids of 7900 series Nvidia cards, and the R500/R600 of ATI's.

But, it's really the application that's important. I'm not about to play Tekken, or Street Fighter, on my PC. Even if I had a controller for my PC. It's just stupid. Same with any other fighter for that matter. Likewise, with Gran Turismo, that's never going to hit my PC (even if PD would release it on PC), I prefer the pressure sensitive PS3 controller, because...well, you don't just hop in your car and mat the gas, when you're taking off. That's silly. But, FPS, RTS, TPS? PC is the ultimate ruler. In my 'opinion', mouse and keyboard support vastly exceeds the abilities of controllers in most genres. Again, this is opinion, so please, take a deep breath before you respond. Heh.

So, it really comes down to what you're using it for. I have a PS3 for fighting games, racing games, and other 1st/2nd party games that Sony distributes, that will never hit PC. I have my PC, for all multi-platform titles, FPS', TPS', RTS' and the like.


Morne

Being biased is being stupid in my opinion. You are smart. You realize the value of the PC and the Consoles.

 

[Bat Vader]

Anyone who discounts one, over the other, is looking at it through biased eyes. The consoles have their place, and the PC's have their place. But, I must say, that PC's can and will do anything the consoles do, better. If you have the money to shell out for the parts. Fact of the matter is, consoles just don't have the ability to be as competitive as PC's, because they're comprised of static hardware, that stays static for multiple years, up to a decade. What's interesting, is that, in the past, the consoles were the supreme leaders in graphical fidelity, while PC's struggled to keep up. But since this hardware cycle came out for the consoles...they STARTED on last-gen technology. Sure, their GPU's are hybrids....but...not hybrids of the current gen tech. They're hybrids of 7900 series Nvidia cards, and the R500/R600 of ATI's.

But, it's really the application that's important. I'm not about to play Tekken, or Street Fighter, on my PC. Even if I had a controller for my PC. It's just stupid. Same with any other fighter for that matter. Likewise, with Gran Turismo, that's never going to hit my PC (even if PD would release it on PC), I prefer the pressure sensitive PS3 controller, because...well, you don't just hop in your car and mat the gas, when you're taking off. That's silly. But, FPS, RTS, TPS? PC is the ultimate ruler. In my 'opinion', mouse and keyboard support vastly exceeds the abilities of controllers in most genres. Again, this is opinion, so please, take a deep breath before you respond. Heh.

So, it really comes down to what you're using it for. I have a PS3 for fighting games, racing games, and other 1st/2nd party games that Sony distributes, that will never hit PC. I have my PC, for all multi-platform titles, FPS', TPS', RTS' and the like.


Morne

While PC is superior, the cost of purchasing and maintaining a decent gaming computer drastically reduces it's market, hence cutting the potential for companies to create pc-games. So while PC is by technical means superior, consoles receive more attention because of the mass of the market that they control.

Well, if you approach building a rig like I did, it can actually be a relatively easy expense. Simply stretch the purchasing out over 6/mo or so. Draw up blueprints for a rig that utilizes ridiculous power, and DON'T settle for lesser parts, simply to get it built faster. That's what I did. Started with one of the best mobo's you can purchase, and basically, over the course of 6/mo. Bought pieces and parts that complimented it, not parts that were crap and would ultimately make the mobo just window dressing (since the mobo = really fast, and settling for lesser parts, caps the speed at your lowest end item).

As for 'maintaining', see, that's where I'm going to disagree. I've had this rig built for 6/mo, and it's cost me nothing to maintain...because I know how to take care of my electronics. It's currently sitting in my bedroom, with my AC on, 24/7, at 60 degrees. It will remain that way. When winter comes, I'll simply turn the AC off, and turn the fan on. Once a month, I unplug everything, take a can of compressed air, and hose the sucker down, while holding a vacuum cleaner nozzle at a distance, to suck up dust bunnies and the like. It's quite simple actually.

The PC is superior. You can't deny that. It's about as absurd as saying consoles are worthless. Each have their uses and applications. But, the hardware available for PC, is beyond anything the consoles could dream for, with regards to gaming.

I will say this though, the Cell processor, still encodes H264 video, faster than an Intel i7 965 Extreme. So, that's still pretty competitive.

What I don't agree with though, is this thought that somehow, games on the PC are less profitable. Most developers who make PC games (yes, even Crytek), allow for hardware scaling, which means most PC's out right now, can play virtually any game. If you're (not necessarily you specifically...I just mean 'you' in general), are annoyed that it doesn't look all that it could...well, put more money into the rig. But, facts are, I know more people who pirate games for the 360 and PSP, than PC. Hell, I know people who have libraries of 100+ 360 games, and have actually purchased only 2. The numbers speak differently...there are more PC's out there, than consoles. It's that simple. Developers just need to learn to harness those numbers into revenue. Methinks they've lost their way.


Morne

A PC may be superior but when someone is being a complete biased ass and keeps spewing it is what makes me angry. They don't even try to look at the value of the consoles.

 

[Beltaine]

Gaming is gaming.

PC, Console, tabletop, pen & paper, doesn't matter.

 

[Jupsto]

I like both platforms.

each has strong points and weaknesses.

but once you PC game get used to the much higher resolution resolution, anti-aliasing, better graphics. going back console is difficult. I mean I was playing cod 4 on 360 and was like how does anyone cope with this? I can't see shit in the distance. They cope because they are used to it.

I think most people who don't like PC as a platform haven't played on a proper gaming rig. Or don't have the know how you often need to deal with the bullshit that windows likes to put you through. You can build great PC's for cheap but again it requires alot of know how and hassle.

I was going to buy a PC just to have a working PC. I sold my 360 with that extra money I could buy pretty insane computer. Also PC games are cheaper. PC gaming has saved me money, given me alot better quality graphics BUT. given me so much hassle over the past 1.5 years in terms of broken parts/crashes/etc. I don't regret moving platform to PC but its hard to recommend it.

 

[Jupsto]

FPS: I prefer PC but will play console
RTS: PC
RPG: Either or
Action: Console
Action RPG: Console
Turn based Strategy: Either or
Horror Survival: Prefer Console
MMORPG: PC
Fighter: Arcade but those aren't too popular these days so Console
Puzzle: Either or

I agree with this (you missed racing: console)

but you can use controller with PC (some games lack official support).

 

[Pendragon9]

PC snobs. They're worse than console fanboys.

 

[More Fun To Compute]

PC owners have to fight the console fans who refuse to play any PC game because these console owners hate freedom and democracy.

 

[McGee]

I'm an admitted PC eliteist and fanboy. What can I say, I love my computer.

 

[DerpyDerpyDerp]

I have a friend who constantly harasses me for buying games on PS3 instead of PC, and I'm SO sick of it. Let me just play the god damn game in peace.

 

[Weaver]

I hate the PS3 and the 360 for my own reasons, but I'm a PC gamer so I'm supposed to hate them apparently.

This is what I am talking about. To PC gamers and Console gamers it is a sin that I like both PC and Consoles. It is like I have to choose one.

I own both a PC and 360 and have never felt pressured that I need to own only one.

 

[DragunovHUN]

Enough of my ranting. What do you The Escapist users think? I would like to know.

I think all you did was spawn another one of *those* topics. Enough of your ranting indeed.