To play on a PC unless you are on a laptop you are going to be hunched over a desk whereas with a games console you can just lounge back into a sofa. That alone will make most people always prefer consoles.
PC prices and misconceptions.
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funny how even tho you are posting about how PCs are affordable your example is still over a hundred dollars more than most top of the line consoles at the moment...
honestly last time my PC burned up it was a choice, do i want to pay over 1000$ for a solid gaming computer, not one that can play the games now, but play the games 2 years down the road well enough to justify its price?
the answer was no, i have had my console for almost 4 years now, it has yet to let me down for diversity of games and fun, yes i do miss that i cant play most of the RTS games that are out anymore as my wifes laptop isnt anywhere near the system requirements, but it all came down to cost vs benefit.
could i justify a thousand dollars for something that could be almost completely replaced by a console for less than half the price?
no i couldnt....
can i justify a PC that costs five hundred dollars that could be almost completely replaced by my current console??
nope again...
honestly last time my PC burned up it was a choice, do i want to pay over 1000$ for a solid gaming computer, not one that can play the games now, but play the games 2 years down the road well enough to justify its price?
the answer was no, i have had my console for almost 4 years now, it has yet to let me down for diversity of games and fun, yes i do miss that i cant play most of the RTS games that are out anymore as my wifes laptop isnt anywhere near the system requirements, but it all came down to cost vs benefit.
could i justify a thousand dollars for something that could be almost completely replaced by a console for less than half the price?
no i couldnt....
can i justify a PC that costs five hundred dollars that could be almost completely replaced by my current console??
nope again...
I'm in the US and I've found that some of the big publishers most notably being EA and Activision/Blizzard have been charging $60 for their "AAA" titles. My secret shame is despite Dragon Age 2 now being released at $60 instead of $50 it won't keep me from buying it(and I suspect that's something EA knows and is apparently willing to exploit to its fullest potential).Glademaster said:
Well, I should say that my PC cost a lot more than $400, about £1215 to be precise... if we take the current exchange rate then it cost the equivalent of approximately $1900 (thats including monitor). Hell, just the cost of the CPU pretty much blows out your $400 budget... though my PC is coming up for around 2 years old now. And thats not including the cost of keyboard, mouse and mouse mat... inconsequential expenses you might think but if you want top line gaming grade kit you're going to hit another £100 on those. (Edit: nor in fact did it include speakers, headphones, networking equipment, headset, or controller... all important gamer kit)
I would call my build a mid range gaming PC, if you want to go enthusiast then you can double the cost, water cooling, dual GFX cards, premium processor etc.. all cost big bucks, however you can game just fine, within certain parameters, on some POS that cost $400 (plus monitor and peripherals), true, doesn't necessarily mean that any gamer is going to want to do that however.
Though it should be said PC hardware costs quite a bit more in the UK than it does in the US: you guys have everything for super low prices.
I would call my build a mid range gaming PC, if you want to go enthusiast then you can double the cost, water cooling, dual GFX cards, premium processor etc.. all cost big bucks, however you can game just fine, within certain parameters, on some POS that cost $400 (plus monitor and peripherals), true, doesn't necessarily mean that any gamer is going to want to do that however.
Though it should be said PC hardware costs quite a bit more in the UK than it does in the US: you guys have everything for super low prices.
Ok well in Ireland we still have about a 10 euro price difference. I know in UK they can have a similar thing as in some areas. I got TC:Hawx for £2. Obviously it was on sale and I know it was not exactly critically acclaimed but £2 on PC normal price was £5 and it was around £15ish on preowned for consoles.SomebodyNowhere said:
To the OP. (Yes, I'm too lazy to read other comments)
Firstly, If you wish to build an argument about that denounces generalizations it would be in your best interests not to make gross generalizations yourself.
Secondly, both PCs in your OP are grossly underpowered and out of date.
Thirdly, you are missing parts, unless you think you can run a computer without a case and OS? Or even without an optical to install said OS?
Fourthly, I assume the currency is American? It is always best to specify these things.
Now for a generalization of my own.
I wish people would learn about what they are commenting on before they open their mouth. ^^
[On a more relevant and more lighthearted note]
Someone who builds a PC in America is going to be able to build it for X cost.
If someone else builds the same PC in the UK, chances are it will be more expensive.
As above, if the builder is in Australia it will be even more expensive again.
This is where the problem is, whenever someone makes this kinds of thread, or even posts in one, they tend to take their own locations pricing as global law, and they are normally incorrect. ^^
Firstly, If you wish to build an argument about that denounces generalizations it would be in your best interests not to make gross generalizations yourself.
Secondly, both PCs in your OP are grossly underpowered and out of date.
Thirdly, you are missing parts, unless you think you can run a computer without a case and OS? Or even without an optical to install said OS?
Fourthly, I assume the currency is American? It is always best to specify these things.
Now for a generalization of my own.
I wish people would learn about what they are commenting on before they open their mouth. ^^
[On a more relevant and more lighthearted note]
Someone who builds a PC in America is going to be able to build it for X cost.
If someone else builds the same PC in the UK, chances are it will be more expensive.
As above, if the builder is in Australia it will be even more expensive again.
This is where the problem is, whenever someone makes this kinds of thread, or even posts in one, they tend to take their own locations pricing as global law, and they are normally incorrect. ^^
Better resolution and FPS is reason enough to get a PC over console. Game mods are a big reason I prefer PC over console as well.
I was kind of scared to build my PC as I didn't really know anything about it. After reading some forums and finding out how easy it actually is to build a PC I went ahead and ordered my parts. I had pretty much no problems except for being scared to break my mobo when inserting the RAM... Most places will charge you 50$ an hour (or more) to build your PC.
I was kind of scared to build my PC as I didn't really know anything about it. After reading some forums and finding out how easy it actually is to build a PC I went ahead and ordered my parts. I had pretty much no problems except for being scared to break my mobo when inserting the RAM... Most places will charge you 50$ an hour (or more) to build your PC.
oh wow... this again... why does this come up a lot lately?
PC gaming CAN be better, and CAN be cheaper.... if you put in the effort. Most people who don't, like myself, simply can't be bothered to because all of their gaming needs are met with a console.
Fuck the price argument, the simplicity of console gaming is why it's winning... Hello, Wii anyone?
PC gaming CAN be better, and CAN be cheaper.... if you put in the effort. Most people who don't, like myself, simply can't be bothered to because all of their gaming needs are met with a console.
Fuck the price argument, the simplicity of console gaming is why it's winning... Hello, Wii anyone?
Factor in that pretty much all PC games (except ActiBlizz games) are substatually cheaper on the PC, and you'll probably find that your conclusion is wrong.Laughing Man said:
All these console fanboys keep mentioning how consoles are so much cheaper.
Why is that?
Oh yeah, the "current gen" consoles are about 4 years old now.
Do you ever wonder why your PS3 overheats or randomly freezes? Because it can't handle what it's trying to play. Even when it does the graphics are usually piss-poor with debatable framerates.
I mainly play on PC becuase I want to get the full experience from games I play -- that is to say, I want to get what I've payed for.
Why is that?
Oh yeah, the "current gen" consoles are about 4 years old now.
Do you ever wonder why your PS3 overheats or randomly freezes? Because it can't handle what it's trying to play. Even when it does the graphics are usually piss-poor with debatable framerates.
I mainly play on PC becuase I want to get the full experience from games I play -- that is to say, I want to get what I've payed for.
Yeah you see just because you say it, doesn't make it true, try using quantitative data to support your statement.
Here's Need For Speed Hot Pursuit a recent game so we will use that as a bench mark for now.
http://www.game.co.uk/Games/PlayStation-3/Racing-Car/Need-for-Speed-Hot-Pursuit-/~r349733/?s=need+for+speed
http://www.game.co.uk/Games/PC-Games-and-Downloads/Racing-Car/Need-for-Speed-Hot-Pursuit-/~r349734/?s=need+for+speed
The difference in price is £7
Over five years that works out as
A PC £100 more than a console = 3 games per year
A PC £200 more than a console = 6 games per year
A PC £400 more than a console = 11 games per year
Those figures are based on
a). The life span of console being five years, which we already know is total wank.
b). A PC built five years ago being able to play modern games five years down the line, again we have already established that that is total wank as well.
As I have already said and for the most part being trying to point out is that in this great cost debate people make statements that have no support, they pick and chose what info to relay to help support their argument and for the most part talk total and utter bollocks. If you want to make all sweeping statements such as the one above then at least provide some information to back it up.
In society people are usually attracted to things that cost more, they are desirable and are seen as a symbol of status. It confounds me why people still argue that PCs are cheaper in the long run than consoles. PC are more expensive they always have been and always will be. Maybe it is the desire of the PC fanboy to not only claim that their PC is better in every way when it comes to gaming than consoles but it is also cheaper... saying that fanboys are idiots.
To keep idiot fanboys like yourself in business
and yes you are a fanboy, where did you pull that crap from? I have an original 60Gig PS3 and it hasn't overheated or frozen once. So no I am not wondering why it does overheat or freeze but I am wondering why you claim it does when it doesn't.
A poorly optimized console port? Touche!
Fyi, The PS2 is well over 5 years old and still gets releases on a regular basis.Laughing Man said:
When someone builds a current generation PC, it can, and will last well over 5 years before you need to upgrade to keep up with gaming.
As for something that is actually ON topic.
How did this thread derail into a PC vs Console argument?
I want to make a few points about the "Gaming Rigs" you see in PCGamer and other similar publications, They are really just a computer put together with the latest and basic components, really they're just there for people who:
A)Haven't the ability to purchase and install the components
B)Have enough money to buy all the necessary components at once with a heavy finder's fee
C)Don't already have a computer and want to just buy all the parts at once
A)Haven't the ability to purchase and install the components
B)Have enough money to buy all the necessary components at once with a heavy finder's fee
C)Don't already have a computer and want to just buy all the parts at once
Laughing Man said:I also have a PS3 of that description.
I lost count of the amount of times it has frozen over the past year's I have owned it.
It's just personal experience translated into sweeping generalisations. Tbh I thought you'd be used to those after eading this thread
But everyone really should listen to this man of wisdom -- Laughing Man, I mean. (I'm not being sarcastic btw).
PC's are more expensive. It's a fact that you can't argue your way around.
I'm surprised I haven't seen one particular logical arguement spring up form the depths of this 'discussion' yet.
Nobody has yet mentioned that PC's do a hell of a lot more than consoles, as they aren't games consoles. They are, first and foremost, PC's. They do what PC's do. Then if you want to add the notorious 'Gaming' prefix, you slap a decent graphics card in there. But obviously if you want to get value you'll have to build it yourself -- it's not hard to do, but I won't go there now.
One thing I really don't understand is the misconception (that PC's must constantly be upgraded) that implies at least one of many things; including:
- AMG NEW HARDWAIR EYE MUZT UPGRAID MAI PC NAO!
- AMG MUZT UPGRAID PC OTHURWYSE IT WILL SUDDENLEH STOP PLAYIN GAMES WELL
I really don't see why many people think PC's seem to melt if not upgraded. Do you hear about games consoles melting from lack of upgrading? No! There's just a new one out in a few years. But unfortunately, as we all know, there hasn't been a new one in a very long time.
If only Microsoft and Sony would stop wasting their time on useless gimmicky things like kinect and move... and make a new generation of console. Unfortunately it's about the money and not about the product, so I doubt a new gen. now would still be anywhere near (performance and aesthetic wise) what PC's can currently do. I suppose I'm just really pissed off at everyone except Cevat Yerli.
Now I honestly can't remember what my point was, or even if I had one, so I'll finish with some blunt statements.
I am predominantely a PC gamer - sometimes this tends to bring out the fanboy in me.
I despise fanboys, but always find myself around them... and joining them -- like now.
Without regard to price, for someone who would consider themself a gamer, I see no reason why said person could see a console as superior to a PC.
There I go again...
*bows* And that's not even touching on the sales.Laughing Man said:
a) Xbox: 2001-2006. GameCube: 2002-2007 (in EU)
b) Explain how my 2003-era pre-built and cheap jalopy is able to run Portal and TrackMania United Forever? And that wasn't even a decent gaming rig.
This really can't be emphasized enough. Unless you're over 50 then the apart from specific cases I don't buy the "I'm not good with computers" bit. The inner workings of computers are extremely complex and beyond even most computer geeks, but just knowing what the basic parts do and sticking them together? It helps to have a geek friend help you alone at the start but once you get the hang of it it's not really that hard. Plus computers are so persistant in todays world that it's useful to have a basic understanding of them.Wicky_42 said:
Now it can be extremely confusing with all the different parts out there that may or may not work together, but any good computer store that lets you pick parts online (like Newegg, or for Western Canada I personally like Memory Express) they won't list you anything that isn't compatable. So start off by picking a motherboard or the CPU, and the rest of the parts available in the drop down boxes will all be compatable.