People really like Thor Ragnarok
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Generally it goes something like: You cant be right until you've made other people believe what you believe. Mainly because clearly other people cant think for themselves so you have to tell them how wrong they are. Insert your left/right example about how bad the right/left are.Saelune said:
We all do it to some extent too. I do it around Ancaps, you do it with Morrowind. It also usually happens something you really care about. MLP isn't something you care enough about to make it an issue. (Put in the necessary proviso that trolls gonna troll.)
So, I saw the movie today and...it's fine. It's average. It's enjoyable. It's funny. It's...well, popcorn. Very good tasting popcorn, but at the end of the day, still popcorn. Better than the first Thor movie (course most MCU movies are), but as far as the MCU goes, it takes the #6 spot for me. So, dead centre.
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Anyway, a lot of that's nitpicks. Like I said, it's popcorn.
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-Hela's a better MCU villain than most, but she's insanely overpowered - like, one person can defeat an entire realm's military. We're at DBZ levels of silliness here.
-Speaking of realms, are there enough Asgardians to make a viable gene pool on Earth?
-What was Surtur's plan? Destory Asgard, and by extension, destroy himself? Did he think this through?
-Why is Hela so powerful and no-one else? She "draws her power from Asgard itself." Okay, so...why does no other Asgardian apparently have this ability? Shouldn't pretty much everyone be an uber? And if she's 'the special,' then, why?
-Credit to the director, he has a great grasp of humour and absurdist dialogue. It's not as funny as 'Hunt for the Wilderpeople', but credit where credit is due.
-Does Valkyrie have an actual name? She's just called "Valkyrie," but that's her former job. Or do all Valkyries get called "Valkyrie?"
-How come Hulk can speak now?
-Why does everyone speak English in the multiverse? I can buy that in GotG it's 'dubbed' for the audience, but no, Bruce, Thor, and the aliens communicate without problem.
-What was Jeff's plan exactly? He incapacitates Thor so he can't beat Hulk, but then sticks him inside a room with Hulk. Like, what, was he going to have them do 2v2 matches or something?
-What's with the film's timeline? It's implied that on Sakaar time moves much more slowly than the universe around it, but events on Sakaar appear to be going at the same rate as stuff in Asgard.
-Where did all those wormholes come from anyway? Why do they all lead to Sakaar?
-Speaking of realms, are there enough Asgardians to make a viable gene pool on Earth?
-What was Surtur's plan? Destory Asgard, and by extension, destroy himself? Did he think this through?
-Why is Hela so powerful and no-one else? She "draws her power from Asgard itself." Okay, so...why does no other Asgardian apparently have this ability? Shouldn't pretty much everyone be an uber? And if she's 'the special,' then, why?
-Credit to the director, he has a great grasp of humour and absurdist dialogue. It's not as funny as 'Hunt for the Wilderpeople', but credit where credit is due.
-Does Valkyrie have an actual name? She's just called "Valkyrie," but that's her former job. Or do all Valkyries get called "Valkyrie?"
-How come Hulk can speak now?
-Why does everyone speak English in the multiverse? I can buy that in GotG it's 'dubbed' for the audience, but no, Bruce, Thor, and the aliens communicate without problem.
-What was Jeff's plan exactly? He incapacitates Thor so he can't beat Hulk, but then sticks him inside a room with Hulk. Like, what, was he going to have them do 2v2 matches or something?
-What's with the film's timeline? It's implied that on Sakaar time moves much more slowly than the universe around it, but events on Sakaar appear to be going at the same rate as stuff in Asgard.
-Where did all those wormholes come from anyway? Why do they all lead to Sakaar?
Anyway, a lot of that's nitpicks. Like I said, it's popcorn.
But I think there is a big difference between someone who doesnt like a specific MCU movie compared to the other MCU movies versus someone who just hates all MCU movies.trunkage said:
Sure, if someone said they think Skyrim or Oblivion is better than Morrowind, I will argue till the cows come home, but that is different I think than if someone just hates Open World RPGS entirely, or hates The Elder Scrolls entirely. Though they might be wasting their own time if they are criticizing Morrowind for not being more like Mario Kart 8.
I just got back from watching it and yeah, I thought it was the best out of the Thor trilogy! Ironic that I seen to liked it more for the sci fi part than the mythological aspect that Thor was suppose to be?
It's a shame that the warrior three went out like chump, well for the first two. Shame there are not there when Thano come around but the cast is already huge for the Infinity War.
The plotholes I have are where is the whereabout of Sif? She was absent in the film. Was her involvement in Agent of Shield meant she had stayed on Earth sincce I didn't watched the show past episode 1? Also how did Hulk Quinjet ended up on Sakaar? I think the Quinjet was on Fiji and that was the place that supposely revive Phil? I remember him saying it was magical so maybe that place teleport him to Sakaar?
Also the midcredit scene tied up nicely for the cam recording of the Infinity War trailer!
Lastly I am a sucker for retro eletronic sort of music since part of the OST was that!
The plotholes I have are where is the whereabout of Sif? She was absent in the film. Was her involvement in Agent of Shield meant she had stayed on Earth sincce I didn't watched the show past episode 1? Also how did Hulk Quinjet ended up on Sakaar? I think the Quinjet was on Fiji and that was the place that supposely revive Phil? I remember him saying it was magical so maybe that place teleport him to Sakaar?
Also the midcredit scene tied up nicely for the cam recording of the Infinity War trailer!
Lastly I am a sucker for retro eletronic sort of music since part of the OST was that!
It was OK although some of the effects and green screen scenes looked pretty bad for a movie of this budget.
The only Thor movie that I like.
It was pretty light hearted and quite funny.
The rock guy was the best part of the movie for me although Hulk and Goldblum were good too.
The villain was, as always, the worst part, she's evil because she's evil.
She will be forgotten like that elf dude from the last Thor movie or Ronald the McDonald or whatever his name is from the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie.
Overall, I had fun but I probably won't remember this movie in 2 weeks.
The only Thor movie that I like.
It was pretty light hearted and quite funny.
The rock guy was the best part of the movie for me although Hulk and Goldblum were good too.
The villain was, as always, the worst part, she's evil because she's evil.
She will be forgotten like that elf dude from the last Thor movie or Ronald the McDonald or whatever his name is from the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie.
Overall, I had fun but I probably won't remember this movie in 2 weeks.
Just saw it.
It was alright, very enjoyable in fact a fun night at the movies. I'm sure most people won't have any complaints.
I didn't like how little it cared about itself or its predecessor films though.
It was alright, very enjoyable in fact a fun night at the movies. I'm sure most people won't have any complaints.
I didn't like how little it cared about itself or its predecessor films though.
Yeah it was a bit of a shocker how quickly the warrior 3 went down.
She was busy filming blacklist and couldn't meet the shooting schedule
Nope, I may have missed it but as far as I can remember the movie never explained why she was absent but then again Thor didn't really seem to care about the where abouts of the warrior three either.
I assume he flew it there, quite a few bits are taken from Planet Hulk, in that he is put on a quinjet and exiled from Earth of course he then freaks out breaks free, smashes sh*t up and the jet then crashes on Sakaar and no Phil was revived in Tahiti not Fiji, and even then Tahiti was nothing but a false memory implanted in to Phil to hide the fact that he was revived using Kree bio-medicine
Again he says that because he has been programmed to believe that the time he spent in Tahiti was 'magical' when in fact it was f*cking horrifying, seriously the scene showing how they rewired his brain is f*cking horrible.
To be honest, I'm getting kind of sick of Marvel at this point. Most of their films are fun but don't really push the envelope that much. This one is not really different but I enjoyed it a lot more than the other Thor films, which were decent but pretty forgettable. This one had a better soundtrack, more humour and Jeff Goldblum hamming it up as an alien weirdo.
But then, it was directed by Taika Waititi, who gave us the hysterical What We Do in the Shadows so I'm not surprised that this entry is a lot funnier than the others.
But then, it was directed by Taika Waititi, who gave us the hysterical What We Do in the Shadows so I'm not surprised that this entry is a lot funnier than the others.
Just saw it today in 3D (only because I could go to that screening straight after work), which proved as pointless as usual. The movie itself is definitely best of the Thor movies by a massive margin. I'd say it's about in the same league as Ant-Man: reliably entertaining and funny without feeling too formulaic. Goldblum is just a riot of ham, Blanchett is in full-blast MILF mode and Hulk works great as the comic relief. Perhaps most refreshingly they finally allowed Thor to go God mode on the bad guys instead of just swinging the hammer. He's supposed to be one of the strongest entities in the Marvel canon, and this film we finally got to see that. I'm hoping we can one day see something on the scale of him destroying an entire fleet of spaceships with his lightning powers in the Ultimates. The synth soundtrack when it was used was great. The move to what I would call cosmic fantasy instead of having him just on Earth was the exact right move.
What took me out was how they seemingly expected me to remember what happened in Dark World, one of the MCU's worst films, and I couldn't for the life of me remember. It also has a smattering of the usual phase 3 movies: too many characters given too little screen time and the film expecting us to care, the flippant tone taking away from the more dramatic scenes (though nowhere near as bad as Dr Strange, since this is a full on comedy), an overabundance of CGI (even if perfectly executed), the action feeling toothless and weightless and a general lack of a sense of threat. When Hela sliced Thor's eye off you could at least have had him shriek in pain, maybe crawl around for a moment. LOTR had decapitations, dismemberment, severed heads, impalement, blood and all that jazz with the same PG-13 rating. Just for once, please, let the characters get hurt!
It also bothered me how little they utilized the actual Ragnar?k myth. Well okay, there's Fenris, Surtr and the army of the dead, but it all feels kinda token. In the myth those are all things seeking to destroy Asgard, not conquer it. There seemed to be some reference to the ship made of dead men's nails with Loki's horns appearing from the mist. I could have used a little more apocalyptic imagery with Surtr to give it proper weight. This is after all a setting the audience should be connected with after three movies.
What took me out was how they seemingly expected me to remember what happened in Dark World, one of the MCU's worst films, and I couldn't for the life of me remember. It also has a smattering of the usual phase 3 movies: too many characters given too little screen time and the film expecting us to care, the flippant tone taking away from the more dramatic scenes (though nowhere near as bad as Dr Strange, since this is a full on comedy), an overabundance of CGI (even if perfectly executed), the action feeling toothless and weightless and a general lack of a sense of threat. When Hela sliced Thor's eye off you could at least have had him shriek in pain, maybe crawl around for a moment. LOTR had decapitations, dismemberment, severed heads, impalement, blood and all that jazz with the same PG-13 rating. Just for once, please, let the characters get hurt!
It also bothered me how little they utilized the actual Ragnar?k myth. Well okay, there's Fenris, Surtr and the army of the dead, but it all feels kinda token. In the myth those are all things seeking to destroy Asgard, not conquer it. There seemed to be some reference to the ship made of dead men's nails with Loki's horns appearing from the mist. I could have used a little more apocalyptic imagery with Surtr to give it proper weight. This is after all a setting the audience should be connected with after three movies.
I wish Doctor Strange was more important, and that the after credits scene from Doctor Strange wasnt just cut out from this film.
What happened to Sif? She is just MIA it seems.
I dont like slow motion, I really dont. It never makes me think a scene is cooler.
Most of the film made me want to play DnD or watch Star Wars. Not a criticism just an observation.
What happened to Sif? She is just MIA it seems.
I dont like slow motion, I really dont. It never makes me think a scene is cooler.
Most of the film made me want to play DnD or watch Star Wars. Not a criticism just an observation.
Well, I mean, the movie titled 'Civil War' was basically just based off the first sentence of a summary of the entire Civil War arc, and Iron Man 3 took his biggest nemesis and threw him away for some D grade villain.bartholen said:
That's to do with following a narrative, which the original myth has next to none. I was talking purely visual flair. You could have had some really trippy shit, like the stars falling from the sky, Fenris swallowing the sun, that kind of stuff.Saelune said: