People's Issue With Square Enix

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Gindil

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Phoenix_XIII said:
Okay. All I wanna know is...

Why the hell do people ***** about Square Enix so much?

They complain about how Final Fantasy has 14 base installments, how they decided to pursue the asshole who is trying to jeopardize their game because they faked their identity to get it, and their games in general.

I can get how Kane and Lynch 2 would suck, but I get the feeling that most of that hate comes from people who don't understand the point of JRPG's. They make great games. If you don't like it, piss off and go away. They've had some issues this year, and sure, 14 isn't going too well but it's a work in progress. WoW wasn't made in a fucking day.

Point is, why do people complain about them? It's the one thing that irritates me about Yahtzee and IGN and Gamespot and all of those gaming sites based in America or otherwise.
Where do I start?

First, I have gotten no update to the Chrono Trigger series. At all. Square buys the copyright on Crono Break, puts out a half assed remake and squats on the extended copyright to make a few extra dollars. If a fan makes a game using the characters, woe betide!

Let's get into the Final Fantasy series of 14+ games. They ain't final. They take the name of the FF series, tack it onto other products and BAM! It's FF but it's not. FFTactics was a great story. But then you got FFXII that's linked to the games along with Vagrant Story. The same problem occurs. Where is the VStory update?

I haven't played FF since X. The reason being, I got tired of FF taking over for everything else in the genre. The Chrono Trigger series stands above any other game that Square ever did and still resonates quite strongly nostalgically for me. You had seven characters who you came to grow with (Crono is still the exception being a player avatar) and a world that was very unique. With FFX, the thing that STILL resonates with me is how whiny Tidus is. By the GORDS [http://www.actsofgord.com/]did I hate that... With the next game being FFXI, an MMO where you have to grind a helluva lot more than WoW (In XI, GAME PLAYS YOU!), I lost all interest in Square as a developer.

Now, Eidos has Deus Ex. I won't be getting the game. Square's business practices of being a legal bully for people that want to make a series based on their characters shows me they're thinking about this in the wrong way. If they were like Capcom, they would have included the community and their talents for a game. If they were like Activision, they would have licensed a fan game. Being a copyright bully that enforces censorship means I will not spend time on a company with a very poor choice in legal strategies.

TLDR - Their games went from great to suck after FFX. When their legal strategies equate to being copyright bullies, I move on to other companies such as Valve who like me putting up my own content.
 

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I dont like square enix simply because they keep making Final fantasy games (a series which i never really liked) and not the third Kingdom Hearts. seriously, its been like, what 8 years since KH2?
 

Nightvalien

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I can give you about 10 reasons for not liking it and they are all final fantasy from 8 to 13 and all the crap mmos, the shit they did with hitman and thief and don't even let me get started on that horrible coded crap that was mind hack, a publisher should have more common sense than that.
 

The Geek Lord

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Phoenix_XIII said:
... but I get the feeling that most of that hate comes from people who don't understand the point of JRPG's. They make great games. If you don't like it, piss off and go away.
You know what I love? JRPGs. You know what I hate? Squeenix.

Square hasn't made a "great" game since the fucking Super Nintendo, with the possible exception of Final Fantasy IX. But HEY, this is just an OPINION, just like you have an OPINION. That's what you're going to say, right? And you'd be right; on the other hand, arguing that certain [http://spoonyexperiment.com/category/final-fantasy-viii/page/3/] games [http://spoonyexperiment.com/category/game-reviews/final-fantasy-x/] were "great" is going to earn you a few facepalms. Just about the only thing I've seen Squeenix do right is publishing Persona 4 in Europe, and that's the truth.

You can go enjoy Final Fantasy 3,248,520: Whiny Douchenozzles, Atrocious Character Designs, and Giant Plot Holes, Oh My! or whatever, but quite honestly if you are incapable of finding flaw in a company that is nothing but, then I don't know what to tell you.
 

Norris IV

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To me theyre too stuck in the past for their RPG's, for example FF13's battles are so arduious and lenghened that it just saps all enthuisam. When its compared to RPG's like oblivion, ME, Fallout and the old school FF's (4,5,6,9) its just too damn slow!
 
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Funnily enough, Yahtzee's Alice Returns quote applies beautifully here (though the number of situations in which a Yahtzee quote applies beautifully seems to have no end):

"When it's not boring, it's obtuse... and let's call it what it is: pretentious."

Square Enix suffers severely from a case of pronounced pretentiousness. I mean hell, just look at the titles they've given their new games: Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus, Crisis Core, Before Crisis, Revenant Wings, RE: Chain of Memories, 300/2 Days, Dissidia Final Fantasy, Dissidia 012 (and that - let's call it what it is - pretentious "Duodecim"). There's only so much butchered language one can take before his own tongue starts turning to mush. And you just know that back in his little office in the Square Enix headquarters, surrounded by his loli fetish designs that didn't make it past his Suck Me Off And Say Yes Committee, Nomura is smiling smugly to himself and thinking what a clever pedophile dog he is.

Oh, yeah: "Agito XIII" and "Versus XIII." The former sounds like someone clearing their throat, and the latter makes me think of Roman numerals squaring off.