By all means, my church sucks. But abiding by my parent's rules means that I stay out of the dog house and out of trouble. I have to put up with my parent's religious crap 24/7 because it means that I don't get kicked out. I'm saving up to move out but I am nowhere near ready just yet.randommaster said:Just so I can derail this, why are your parents making you go to church anyways? Is there anything that could convince them to let you go less frequently? Could I ask any more questions?Mykonos said:My parents own the church. Out of the church means out of the house.Sronpop said:
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I think you misunderstood (this word is too long!) me. I don't mean to suggest simply rejecting your parents' church, just getting them to tell you what they arre trying to teach you and how you can demonstrate that you understand what they have been teaching you. If you can do this, church seems unneccessary.Mykonos said:By all means, my church sucks. But abiding by my parent's rules means that I stay out of the dog house and out of trouble. I have to put up with my parent's religious crap 24/7 because it means that I don't get kicked out. I'm saving up to move out but I am nowhere near ready just yet.randommaster said:Just so I can derail this, why are your parents making you go to church anyways? Is there anything that could convince them to let you go less frequently? Could I ask any more questions?Mykonos said:My parents own the church. Out of the church means out of the house.Sronpop said:
I need to invest in an apartment.
I have to ask a few things, here, Mykonos. I do understand your situation. I grew up in a Catholic school with a Catholic family whilst I myself am Wiccan. Trust me. I do understand.
Firstly, have you tried speaking to your family about it? Or are you so sure that you'll be kicked out that you haven't bothered? I think it's important that they know you're not happy with it. Even if you can just say "I need a break, to reevaluate my beliefs and think about it some more, until then I'd like if I could stay home from Church," it would greatly alleviate things.
Secondly, what exactly did you hope to accomplish by insulting your parents beliefs while they're the ones putting a roof over your head? What you were doing was immature and childish. Plenty of others have dealt with your situation in a more mature manner-- making jokes and being rude about others' beliefs is completely unnecessary. I'd say this to your friends if I could as well. Religious tolerance is important-- disputes over whose religion is right and wrong have started wars for centuries. I understand that Church is boring, trust me. But that was a childish way to cope with it.
I'll step down off my soap box now. I just thought that something needed to be said about you being so childish about it in the first place.
Firstly, have you tried speaking to your family about it? Or are you so sure that you'll be kicked out that you haven't bothered? I think it's important that they know you're not happy with it. Even if you can just say "I need a break, to reevaluate my beliefs and think about it some more, until then I'd like if I could stay home from Church," it would greatly alleviate things.
Secondly, what exactly did you hope to accomplish by insulting your parents beliefs while they're the ones putting a roof over your head? What you were doing was immature and childish. Plenty of others have dealt with your situation in a more mature manner-- making jokes and being rude about others' beliefs is completely unnecessary. I'd say this to your friends if I could as well. Religious tolerance is important-- disputes over whose religion is right and wrong have started wars for centuries. I understand that Church is boring, trust me. But that was a childish way to cope with it.
I'll step down off my soap box now. I just thought that something needed to be said about you being so childish about it in the first place.
Agreed Blaze here. You did make a mistake by actively insulting your parent's beliefs. Offer a compromise. Tell your parents that you don't want to have to be dragged into service but offer your helping hand around the church for various chores behind the scenes. Offer to help clean it or whatever.BlazeTheVampire said:
There isn't much else you can do since you've dug yourself quite a deep hole. I'd make the best of it.
To answer your first part. My Stepfather is an asshole and my mum (love her to death) does everything to make him happy. He's so convinced that shoving his beliefs (ones that he just gotten into a year ago) down everyone in my family's throat is the right thing to do. To him, going any other path that isn't religiously focused is evil. I've tried explaining to them that I wasn't happy with it. I didn't get a good reply. "My house is God's house and if your not going to be in God's house, then your not going to be in this house."BlazeTheVampire said:
Secondly, I understand your opinion about behaving maturely with other people's religions. But when you've dealt with one extreme end of your parents being crazed drunkards who come home every night at 3 in the morning, arguing and beating each other. Then have them flip to another extreme where they're being crazed religious fanatics who are waking up at 7 in the morning and telling you that the majority of the things you do are "ungodly" or "corrupt", constantly analyzing EVERY LAST THING YOU DO, "Half-Life? There's no god in that game son" (Real quote).
You simply stop caring and start laughing, because it's all you can do.
I have respect for other people's religions, just not when they swamp me with it.
I'd have to say you've got yourself into a rather uncomfortable situation, now haven't you? I'm a world class liar and I'm not sure if I'd be able to get out of that one. I can just imagine a scene with a bunch of people pointing the finger of blame at you and you meekly passing blame onto a nearby animal. No, but seriously I'd have to say the best idea would to admit guilt, but emphasize the fact that this whole thing never would have happened if your parents hadn't taken you to church against your will. Also mention that you were indirectly involved, and that it's your friend who should be taking most of the blame.
Okay. I see this as you being forced against your will to this church. So this is an act of rebelion. I see nothing wrong with that. Fight the power man. Get kicked out and be marry. Find your own feet.
ok, ive just read in more detail whats been said.
All you could try is sit them down and talk too them. Dont question theyre beliefs, Just say you want too take some time out, Take a step back from the religion, And that if they keep forcing you too go it will not solve anything, If anything it could turn you atheist (i would know).
When it happened too me i was in a fortunate position, I live with my mum who is a devout jehovahs witness, But i had the option too go and live with my dad if she kicked me out, but she never did.
Me & my mum are as close as we've ever been, Just dont take the piss with it.
And step-dad's are arseholes. Just remember - 1, He's not your dad & 2, Your not his son.
Let him know that respect is earned, not given.
All you could try is sit them down and talk too them. Dont question theyre beliefs, Just say you want too take some time out, Take a step back from the religion, And that if they keep forcing you too go it will not solve anything, If anything it could turn you atheist (i would know).
When it happened too me i was in a fortunate position, I live with my mum who is a devout jehovahs witness, But i had the option too go and live with my dad if she kicked me out, but she never did.
Me & my mum are as close as we've ever been, Just dont take the piss with it.
And step-dad's are arseholes. Just remember - 1, He's not your dad & 2, Your not his son.
Let him know that respect is earned, not given.
You still weren't truely conforming. Texting and whatnot during the thing. You sound as if you hate it. You're getting forced in and in a posisition where you didn't want to be. Well, that's how I read it all.Mykonos said:
