PETA for kids

[Beliyal]

Wow. PETA = evil? Where the fuck does this attitude come from?

Did I miss the part where liking games = being an aspy cockmuncher who hates all lifeforms incapable of being lol'd at in a forum?

Where'd this idea that being nice to animals = communist dictatorship or some bullshit? Are you all Republican Fox news rejects or what the fuck?

On the contrary. I'm about as liberal as you get, but when you see this clear brainwashing propaganda BS its best to call them out on it. And as a liberal, I find that trying to take away someone's liberties (see what I did there?) to be the epitome of evil.

Why is it brainwashing? Isn't it meant for kids who are interested in vegetarianism/veganism to find information they cannot find somewhere else? I mean, sure, the means are not really that great and the feel of aggression I get from reading the site is not so appealing to me, but if a kid wants to be a vegetarian and wants to find some justification to present to his or her family, what should he or she do? Sure, nowadays, there's a lot more information all over the internet, so you don't really have to be restricted to PETA. From my own experience, I would have been more than glad if I was able to find some information like this when I was 5-10 years old. I know I'd become a vegetarian much sooner and help myself greatly in the process.

They're not taking anyone's liberties away; they are informing those that want information. Unless vegetarian/vegan parents are forcing their kids to also be vegetarians/vegans against their will. But that's the fault of shit parents, not some PETA site. Besides, if a kid stumbles upon that page or someone shows it to him or her, so what? What harm can come from trying to be a vegetarian or a vegan? Sure, if you're uneducated and don't know how to do it properly, you'll get sick. However, if you do it right and you end up liking it, it's brainwashing? Well, if they end up not liking it, they'll stop being vegetarian. I find it ridiculous to condemn the whole idea before even trying it out properly. If a kid has a "phase" and wants to try it out, let them try it out.

Anyway, I'm not a PETA supporter and it gets on my nerves when I say "I'm a vegetarian" and everyone assumes I'm that crazy activist that molests other people. So I avoid using the term "vegetarian" because it somehow implies connections to PETA. If I say "I don't eat meat", nobody says a thing. I know PETA is not really a little angelic organization and I'd like if they would just stop giving vegetarians and vegans a bad name.

It will make you deficient in iron though...although they have tablets for that.

Well, from my own experience, this is completely untrue. I was eating meat for 18 years and I was deficient in iron for 18 years. The doctors couldn't quite believe it themselves and everybody kept asking me if I was a vegetarian. I wasn't. Now I am (almost 5 years) and my iron is fine. It's lower than average, but it's better than before (I inherited anaemia so I don't think I'll ever get rid of it). The point is, while I was eating meat and was deficient in iron, I felt weak and terrible and I couldn't do any type of activity that involved being active for more than 10 minutes. Now I don't eat meat, my iron is better and I have no problems with walking all day long, skiing, swimming or riding a bicycle. Talk about weird.

 

[Kroxile]

Wow. PETA = evil? Where the fuck does this attitude come from?

Did I miss the part where liking games = being an aspy cockmuncher who hates all lifeforms incapable of being lol'd at in a forum?

Where'd this idea that being nice to animals = communist dictatorship or some bullshit? Are you all Republican Fox news rejects or what the fuck?

On the contrary. I'm about as liberal as you get, but when you see this clear brainwashing propaganda BS its best to call them out on it. And as a liberal, I find that trying to take away someone's liberties (see what I did there?) to be the epitome of evil.

Why is it brainwashing? Isn't it meant for kids who are interested in vegetarianism/veganism to find information they cannot find somewhere else? I mean, sure, the means are not really that great and the feel of aggression I get from reading the site is not so appealing to me, but if a kid wants to be a vegetarian and wants to find some justification to present to his or her family, what should he or she do? Sure, nowadays, there's a lot more information all over the internet, so you don't really have to be restricted to PETA. From my own experience, I would have been more than glad if I was able to find some information like this when I was 5-10 years old. I know I'd become a vegetarian much sooner and help myself greatly in the process.

They're not taking anyone's liberties away; they are informing those that want information. Unless vegetarian/vegan parents are forcing their kids to also be vegetarians/vegans against their will. But that's the fault of shit parents, not some PETA site. Besides, if a kid stumbles upon that page or someone shows it to him or her, so what? What harm can come from trying to be a vegetarian or a vegan? Sure, if you're uneducated and don't know how to do it properly, you'll get sick. However, if you do it right and you end up liking it, it's brainwashing? Well, if they end up not liking it, they'll stop being vegetarian. I find it ridiculous to condemn the whole idea before even trying it out properly. If a kid has a "phase" and wants to try it out, let them try it out.

Anyway, I'm not a PETA supporter and it gets on my nerves when I say "I'm a vegetarian" and everyone assumes I'm that crazy activist that molests other people. So I avoid using the term "vegetarian" because it somehow implies connections to PETA. If I say "I don't eat meat", nobody says a thing. I know PETA is not really a little angelic organization and I'd like if they would just stop giving vegetarians and vegans a bad name.

Its brainwashing because of how they go about spreading their message. Its not about "Hey, if you're interested in this check this out!" its "do it this way or you're a horrible animal killer." Brainwashing by its very nature removes liberties from its victims by removing their freedom of choice. So, its in how the message is relayed not the message itself that causes harm.

 

[Chaza]

They funny thing is that if humans didn't eat a lot of the animals we do then they would die out as there would be nothing to protect them.

Protect them from what though?

 

[King Toasty]

God, I hate these guys. Shutting down zoos would hurt, more than help.
Sure, a few zoos badly mistreat animals. But what if every zoo let loose? The animals would all die. Almost every single one of them.

Except bears. Godless killing machines.

Captcha: Attention research. See, PETA? Pay attention and do your research!

 

[King Toasty]

They funny thing is that if humans didn't eat a lot of the animals we do then they would die out as there would be nothing to protect them.

Protect them from what though?

He means cows. Seriously, cows wouldn't survive a day and a half.
Now true, we /did/ breed them to be fat, stupid and delicious. But still.

 

[razerdoh]

I fully support People for the Eating of Tasty Animals, just acouple of hours ago i had some very good hamburgers whit bacon on top^^

 

[bulldogftw]

PETA, y u so stupid?!?.

 

[Amphoteric]

P-People For
E-Extortion
T-Terror and
A-Abuse

PETA is a disgusting organisation.

 

[TheDooD]

Are there animals being held hostage at your school, commonly known as ?classroom pets? or ?hatching experiments??

Pets Killed by PETA yearly.

Year 	Recv'd 	Moved 	Adopted 	Killed
2010 	2,345 	63 	44 	1.86% 	2,200 	93.8%
2009 	2,366 	31 	8 	0.34% 	2,301 	97.3%
2008 	2,216 	34 	7 	0.32% 	2,124 	95.8%
2007 	1,997 	35 	17 	0.85% 	1,815 	90.9%
2006 	3,061 	46 	12 	0.39% 	2,981 	97.4%
2005 	2,165 	69 	146 	6.74% 	1,946 	89.9%
2004 	2,655 	1 	361 	13.60% 	2,278 	85.8%
2003 	2,224 	1 	312 	14.03% 	1,911 	85.9%
2002 	2,680 	2 	382 	14.25% 	2,298 	85.7%
2001 	2,685 	14 	703 	26.18% 	1,944 	72.4%
2000 	2,681 	28 	624 	23.27% 	2,029 	75.7%
1999 	1,805 	91 	386 	21.39% 	1,328 	73.6%
1998 	943 	125 	133 	14.10% 	685 	72.6%
Total 	29,823 	540 	3,135 	10.56% 	25,840 	85.9%

Better being a live experiment than a corpse.

holy shit....

No wonder PETA misdirects information they can't let people found out their bias murderers. Well the people didn't already know that fact.

 

[jedizero]

Why all this hatred against PETA? Is this organization accountable for crimes I don't know about, or is it just that animal rights ethics and vegetarianism makes people furious?

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with this page. It introduces children to the possibility of a vegetarian diet, encourages them to keep an eye up for animal abuse in their community, in their school - how can this possibly be wrong?

You're like republicans ranting about how liberals brainwash children with this homosexual acceptance agenda in that you keep blaming organizations for their "political motives" aimed at the "innocent children", while completely failing to explain why these political motives should be harmful in the first place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ijLulwUTY

Watch.
Learn.
Be educated.

Its harmful because the group all but supports and funds eco-terrorists. Its harmful because they say that they will save animals that they will adopt, but they take them into a van and kill them.

Its harmful because the one in charge admitted "Yes, we could become a no kill shelter. But we'd have to become a non-profit organisation."

Its harmful because they shout at the top of their lungs that if you're a diabetic, you shouldn't take insulin, because it was developed via animal testing. Even though people *need* it in order to survive! Their lives are not worth the chance that an animal might have been involved in the testing! If a cure for cancer was found, if it was tested on one animal, they'd scream that anybody who ever took it is a horrific animal killer and torturer.

Then in the same breath, one of their founding members says its ok for *her* to use insulin, after all, she's saving animals! Nobody else, though. Anybody else who does it is a horrible person who should be burned at the stake.

Their entire group is just rife with hypocrites, terrorists, and in general, sick bastards.

That. Is why all the hatred against PETA.

 

[Worgen]

I don't even trust regular vegetarians ( outside of religious ones) why should I care what these domestic terrorist say?

so you trust religious domestic terrorists then?

peta is the left wing equivalent of the nra, they are stupid but ultimately less harmful then the right wing version

No I don't .
And saying the NRA is more dangerous is an opinion (especially since they teach gun safety and don't demand you change your way of life for what they believe in, so in my opinion, saying the NRA is dangerous is unjustified in the case.)

well lets see, peta wants you to stop eating animals, the nra wants everyone to be able to buy assualt rifles, which one is potentially more deadly?

 

[CarlMin]

Why all this hatred against PETA? Is this organization accountable for crimes I don't know about, or is it just that animal rights ethics and vegetarianism makes people furious?

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with this page. It introduces children to the possibility of a vegetarian diet, encourages them to keep an eye up for animal abuse in their community, in their school - how can this possibly be wrong?

You're like republicans ranting about how liberals brainwash children with this homosexual acceptance agenda in that you keep blaming organizations for their "political motives" aimed at the "innocent children", while completely failing to explain why these political motives should be harmful in the first place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ijLulwUTY

Watch.
Learn.
Be educated.

Its harmful because the group all but supports and funds eco-terrorists. Its harmful because they say that they will save animals that they will adopt, but they take them into a van and kill them.

Its harmful because the one in charge admitted "Yes, we could become a no kill shelter. But we'd have to become a non-profit organisation."

Its harmful because they shout at the top of their lungs that if you're a diabetic, you shouldn't take insulin, because it was developed via animal testing. Even though people *need* it in order to survive! Their lives are not worth the chance that an animal might have been involved in the testing! If a cure for cancer was found, if it was tested on one animal, they'd scream that anybody who ever took it is a horrific animal killer and torturer.

Then in the same breath, one of their founding members says its ok for *her* to use insulin, after all, she's saving animals! Nobody else, though. Anybody else who does it is a horrible person who should be burned at the stake.

Their entire group is just rife with hypocrites, terrorists, and in general, sick bastards.

That. Is why all the hatred against PETA.

Yeah, I would have to do a bit more research before deciding how much of that is true and not. It sounds like you've picked up a few examples of stupid statements from the organizations, and pinpointed certain flaws in their system that are being magnified by the groups opposers, and then based your opinion on that.

Maybe you simple need a more comprehensive view on the group and its work. I don't, for example, believe that every single PETA member is a hypocrite, terrorist or sick bastard. Actually, you coming with such a statement really says more about you.


Anyway, which animal rights organizations DO you support?

 

[jedizero]

Maybe you simple need a more comprehensive view on the group and its work. I don't, for example, believe that every single PETA member is a hypocrite, terrorist or sick bastard. Actually, you coming with such a statement really says more about you.

I have not said that ALL of them is a hypocrite, or terrorist, or sick bastard. I said it is rife with. Not comprised solely of. The minority in this case is sadly, the people who truly want to help animals that need to be helped.

Anyway, which animal rights organizations DO you support?

ASPCA. American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals.

What, are you part of PETA or something?

well lets see, peta wants you to stop eating animals, the nra wants everyone to be able to buy assualt rifles, which one is potentially more deadly?

PETA funds eco-terrorists.

the NRA wants everyone to be able to enjoy their second amendment rights.

 

[Worgen]

well lets see, peta wants you to stop eating animals, the nra wants everyone to be able to buy assualt rifles, which one is potentially more deadly?

Well, not that i agree with the NRA, actually i despise the NRA, but seeing how ETA gives money to people who FIREBOMB ANIMAL TESTING LABS, i'm gonna have to say PETA.

If PETA had their way, all the people in the world who have diabetes, and thus have to inject themselves with insulin would be dead right now.

They are against ANY kind of animal testing, and without animal testing, there is no bio-medical research, NO new medicine would be developed and millions of people who could be saved will die.

I repeat, I do not agree with the NRA, and i think that people who buy assault riffles for self defence are retards, but PETA is way, waaaaaaaaaay, more deadly.

oh please, the lax gun standards that the nra loves are partly responsible for all the drug crime in mexico, mexico has pretty strict gun laws but its easy for someone to just go to a gun show here and buy all sorts of weapons then ship em down there for easy killing, I think I read that more then a few assualt weapons found in cartel hands have been traced to a gun shop in houston

found the story
http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/05/29/us-crime-guns-texas-idUSTRE54S04A20090529

 

[Gilhelmi]

PETA is the Westboro Baptist Church of vegetarians. Brainwashed trolls that are best ignored.

Wow I never realized it until you said it but You are quite correct.

Thank you

 

[Arehexes]

Sort of off-topic but i'd just like to say because some eople don't make this distinction, i'm a vehetarian and I hate PETA, so when you hear someone say they're a vegetarian, don't jump to that conclusion, this annoys me to no end...

No worries here mate I only hate vegetarians when they won't let me enjoy my damned burger...also really off topic but where did you get your avatar and do they have a flutter shy one

 

[Arehexes]

Any group with a beneficiary who goes to SCHOOLCHILDREN and shows them how to make bombs (Which Rod Coronado did) is a supporter of terrorism, and said beneficiary is absolutely a terrorist.

Oh, and I can't remember the name, but a chef on the west coast received death threats to him and his wife and child because he refused to stop serving foie gras in his market. What do you call that? Mild harrassment?

Again, the reason I wouldn't consider it terrorism is because these kinds of activists generally explicitly include as part of their goals not to hurt humans. In every case where someone's actually been arrested for this that I've heard of, even Rod Coronado, they never want to hurt people (physically, that is; they seem to be fine with committing acts which will hurt people indirectly). That gives them a huge moral boost up in my opinion, and so I think they shouldn't be treated the same as, say, Al-Qaeda.

Edit: Forgot about that death threat guy, but I'm going to have to ask you to provide a link to verify the story. At any rate, I doubt he's officially affiliated with PETA.

You don't have to kill people to be a terrorist, since they teach people how to make bombs to kids, and support groups who BLOW UP research places to save animals from testing. Now no one is hurt but all the money went into that work is gone to prove their point through a violent means. That in a way is a form of terrorism, using violence to get your point across.

 

[Thundero13]

Sort of off-topic but i'd just like to say because some eople don't make this distinction, i'm a vehetarian and I hate PETA, so when you hear someone say they're a vegetarian, don't jump to that conclusion, this annoys me to no end...

No worries here mate I only hate vegetarians when they won't let me enjoy my damned burger...also really off topic but where did you get your avatar and do they have a flutter shy one

It was a site that had a load of nyan cats, I couldn't find any Fluttershy though, sorry there's a couple Rainbow Dash versions and the one Pinkie Pie but apart from that I couldn't find any, also if you're a big MLP:FiM fan would you like to join the escapist usergroup?
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/groups/view/MLP-Friendship-is-Magic
It's lots of fun, we chat about the show & stuff ^~^

 

[Arehexes]

well lets see, peta wants you to stop eating animals, the nra wants everyone to be able to buy assualt rifles, which one is potentially more deadly?

Well, not that i agree with the NRA, actually i despise the NRA, but seeing how PETA gives money to people who FIREBOMB ANIMAL TESTING LABS, i'm gonna have to say PETA.

If PETA had their way, all the people in the world who have diabetes, and thus have to inject themselves with insulin would be dead right now.

They are against ANY kind of animal testing, and without animal testing, there is no bio-medical research, NO new medicine would be developed and millions of people who could be saved will die.

I repeat, I do not agree with the NRA, and i think that people who buy assault riffles for self defence are retards, but PETA is way, waaaaaaaaaay, more deadly.

The irony is one of the heads of peta uses insulin which was either tested on or made with dogs I don't remember off the top of my head (I'm going with tested on).

 

[Jegsimmons]

I don't even trust regular vegetarians ( outside of religious ones) why should I care what these domestic terrorist say?

so you trust religious domestic terrorists then?

peta is the left wing equivalent of the nra, they are stupid but ultimately less harmful then the right wing version

No I don't .
And saying the NRA is more dangerous is an opinion (especially since they teach gun safety and don't demand you change your way of life for what they believe in, so in my opinion, saying the NRA is dangerous is unjustified in the case.)

well lets see, peta wants you to stop eating animals, the nra wants everyone to be able to buy assualt rifles, which one is potentially more deadly?

1. you can already buy assault rifles, and assault rifles (the ones owned by civilians legitimately) are almost NEVER used in a crime. same with most guns. (simple research and FBI statistics)
2. fighting for the right to have the option to own one is a lot different than making people changing their life style without option.
3. the NRA hasn't honestly done anything to be labeled as a dangerous/ extremist group. it's a legit organization that has had even members that where presidents. Just because you do not agree with the politics doesn't make them bad. After all, I fully disagree with a lot of liberal groups, but i don't hate them or make false accusations. PETA on the other hand, is known to be bat-shit crazy.