Yeah, but the kid lived in CT. This one lives in Texas, where they shoot you for jaywalking.Elfgore said:This is a very complicated case for me. He without a doubt, did something incredibly stupid but... does he really deserve eight years in jail for it? Hell after that school shooting in Newtown or whatever that school was called, some kid from a neighboring school said he could do better on facebook and was arrested. He got away with a slap on a wrist from the judge and was expelled from his school. That should be this guys punishment. Give him some community service or something because this kid will be most likely murdered in prison.
What he did is not right and he deserves to be punished, but eight years in jail is to extreme.
Hopefully, yes, but he's spent five months on the inside, been assaulted multiple times and has been in solitary confinement for an unknown amount of time. That's not something you just shake off and forget. The only question at this point is how damaged he's going to be when he comes out the other side.Colt47 said:He's going to get out of jail. This is just ridiculous on so many levels that it isn't even funny.
See that's the problem with text. You can't distinguish sarcasm, so when a person goes "lol JK", they are likely being sarcastic.Tygerml said:While I agree that the prison time is wildly excessive, he should've had the common sense not to say something that stupid on Facebook where you really have no idea who's likely to read it.Krinkle Ymouse said:So much for freedom of speech if you can be arrested for sarcasm... Way to go US...
"Oh yeah, I'm real messed up in the head, I'm going to go shoot up a school full of kids and eat their still-beating hearts" doesn't sound like someone being sarcastic so much as someone trying to be shocking.
You don't have freedom of speech on Facebook, you have what they allow you to say. Even so, I think 100 hours of community service picking up trash or something would have made a lot more sense.
A Facebook ban is the only thing he should really have been subjected to.emeraldrafael said:I dont think he needed an 8 year sentence, but he did need something for that completely dumbass comment. you cant just say jk or lol after something like that in the recent events of newtown and the boston bombing and think thats alright.
You can judge things based on context, true. Problem is when you say something in a public place you risk people who are not involved taking it out of context. Facebook comments are not necessarily public, you can choose who sees them, this kid evidentally didn't do that. He put a comment up which people who were not aware of the context could see. As such they've done the right thing and expressed their concern to the authorities.Rednog said:You have to use a sense of judgement in situations, for example as you brought up work, say a worker is just having a crummy day and says off offhandedly "wow I'd really love to just jump out that window". Do you jump up and pin them to the ground and call the authorities for an attempted suicide? No, you use your better judgement and realize that it's dark humor.
I don't think you know how analogies work if you think that's in any way more correct.Robert Holmes said:The correct analogy would be if someone called in a bomb threat and said the bombs are inside your kidneys or someone else said they had a gun which fires solid bullets of blood pumped from his very veins. I would hope that you do not report me and have me arrested as both a criminal and a blood mage.
Spot on.bdcjacko said:Also by threating to shoot up a school and eat the still beating hearts of children is not something to acceptable joke about where anyone can see or hear. If you want to joke about it with your friends, don't got posting it on Facebook.
Well ain't that a *****.After several weeks in prison, the court determined that the county in which he was being held didn't have jurisdiction, but instead of being freed he was transferred to a different county, where the judge doubled his bail.
Woah dude, 80% of that comment literally had nothing to do with the topic at hand here.UltraHammer said:-snip-
He was just using Facebook as a way to communicate with people he might've never met before. This case is like a kid played a game of (insert sport here) at a local park and the conversation in the article happened, then some woman overheard one sentence and called the cops immediately.bdcjacko said:Also by threating to shoot up a school and eat the still beating hearts of children is not something to acceptable joke about where anyone can see or hear. If you want to joke about it with your friends, don't got posting it on Facebook.
And assuming she wasn't able to discern by tone that they were joking about the kid being messed up in the head and wanting to kill a bunch of people, she would be perfectly justified in doing so.crimson sickle2 said:This case is like a kid played a game of (insert sport here) at a local park and the conversation in the article happened, then some woman overheard one sentence and called the cops immediately.
Yup, and the police should have taken one look at the comment and politely told her where to get off.fletch_talon said:And assuming she wasn't able to discern by tone that they were joking about the kid being messed up in the head and wanting to kill a bunch of people, she would be perfectly justified in doing so.crimson sickle2 said:This case is like a kid played a game of (insert sport here) at a local park and the conversation in the article happened, then some woman overheard one sentence and called the cops immediately.
The difference is what happens after and how severe the punishment should be for what was admittedly a childish mistake.
Nup, the police should have looked at the comment. Investigated further to discover what the context of said comment was and whether there was reason to believe it may have been made in malice rather than ignorance. Upon finding nothing they should then have given the child a warning, possibly handing down some form of fine upon the boy and his family to make up for the waste of police time. Finally they should have thanked the lady for her concern and bringing it to their attention.Caiphus said:Yup, and the police should have taken one look at the comment and politely told her where to get off.fletch_talon said:And assuming she wasn't able to discern by tone that they were joking about the kid being messed up in the head and wanting to kill a bunch of people, she would be perfectly justified in doing so.crimson sickle2 said:This case is like a kid played a game of (insert sport here) at a local park and the conversation in the article happened, then some woman overheard one sentence and called the cops immediately.
The difference is what happens after and how severe the punishment should be for what was admittedly a childish mistake.