Phantom Blade 0 - Not Souls, More Ninja Gaiden/Metal Gear Rising Style
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It's Souls. Can tell just by looking that you lock on with the shitty R3 toggle button*, that the cam gets locked behind the character (blinding the player), that it's another "figure out the dodge button timing or die" game** (as opposed to finding your spacing like in Streets of Rage) and that the protagonist can't jump (which FromSoftware did not dedicate a button for until Sekiro). Attacks are obviously under the finger(s) rather than the thumbs again, since you will need as much access to the camera as possible with one so close.
*Prefer Z-targeting because you actively feel when you are in that mode as you hold the button down. Strafing is just built in even when there is no target, allowing you to move defensively before you see them. I don't want to be locked into that movement by a toggle.
**Betting attacks will seek you again, making you have to dodge all the time anyway. System like Streets would be impossible because of tiresome seeking.
*Prefer Z-targeting because you actively feel when you are in that mode as you hold the button down. Strafing is just built in even when there is no target, allowing you to move defensively before you see them. I don't want to be locked into that movement by a toggle.
**Betting attacks will seek you again, making you have to dodge all the time anyway. System like Streets would be impossible because of tiresome seeking.
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The only thing Souls about it is the level design. You attack with the face buttons. Blocking and parrying is L1/LB. Other than a lock on, not much else is Souls inspired. The director and Max has pointed out that Ninja Gaiden is this game's biggest inspiration. It shows.
So this is a different game than Black Myth: Wo Long Fallen Stellar Blade?
Sorry, pardon the snark, I can't help myself.
Snark aside the 4th video was interesting and informative, u/BrawlMan.
Personally all of these games are just going in the mental pile of "I'll play them in 3-5 years when they're offered on PS+" but there's clearly a big market for this stuff.
Re: the "soulslike"- to me the thing that means soulslike is the whole thing about respawning enemies at checkpoint, big boss fights, and losing currencty when you die once and permanently twice. Sure terms are wishy-washy but for me personally that is what gives that term any value. It's that feeling that dying is both common but actually impactful.
Sorry, pardon the snark, I can't help myself.
Snark aside the 4th video was interesting and informative, u/BrawlMan.
Personally all of these games are just going in the mental pile of "I'll play them in 3-5 years when they're offered on PS+" but there's clearly a big market for this stuff.
Re: the "soulslike"- to me the thing that means soulslike is the whole thing about respawning enemies at checkpoint, big boss fights, and losing currencty when you die once and permanently twice. Sure terms are wishy-washy but for me personally that is what gives that term any value. It's that feeling that dying is both common but actually impactful.
Nothing wrong with that. I'm glad Simmons/YoVideoGames input was helpful to you. This will be a day once by for me when it comes out next year.
Just a heads up: this game is going to be more of a 3D metroidvania/Dark Souls 1 level design structure. Simmons mentions it in his video. So it won't be level based like Nioh.
Phantom Blade Zero
Phantom Blade Zero is an upcoming Action RPG featuring deep and dark art style, fast paced combat, and a fictitious world blending Chinese martial arts and steampunk! Phantom Blade Zero is developed by S-GAME and its a spiritual rebirth of the Rainblood: Town of Death indie game that was...
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Ahh, interesting. I was thinking more about the gameplay than the level design when I described it being like Nioh, but that's good to know. Well either way, if the combat is fun I'm fine with any sort of level design.Just a heads up: this game is going to be more of a 3D metroidvania/Dark Souls 1 level design structure. Simmons mentions it in his video. So itwon't be level based like Nioh.
Phantom Blade Zero
Phantom Blade Zero is an upcoming Action RPG featuring deep and dark art style, fast paced combat, and a fictitious world blending Chinese martial arts and steampunk! Phantom Blade Zero is developed by S-GAME and its a spiritual rebirth of the Rainblood: Town of Death indie game that was...
Nioh is Souls too. Same crummy R3 lock-on that looks more at the ground the closer you go, same bloated HP for enemies and little HP for you (making you seek windows for estus flask equivalent), attacks changing direction mid-swing (forcing dodge), stamina, another run button instead of dedicated jump (because they can't remember action games before the sprinting in Demon's Souls). Can they jump at all? Same distracting, weird online features that are complicated to opt out of, same lack of easy pause even when alone.
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It has a lot of the same dna but the combat system is a lot more complex with things like stances and a bunch of different moves and whatnot. Like it has the monster hunter basics that eventually souls also adopted with the stamina meter and the health drinks and having to learn patterns and roll or parry stuff right, but what it does with it is unique enough. And this game seems to also have an expanded movelist with a bunch of different moves.
Yes. It's all pointed out in the control layouts and properly translated. There are also environmental interactions you can do as well in combat.
First Look At Phantom Blade Zero Controller Layout & Off-screen Gameplay
Here's a first look at the controller layout in S-GAME's upcoming action role-playing game, Phantom Blade Zero.
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Nioh, not PBZ.Yes. It's all point out in the control layouts and properly translated. There are also environmental interactions you can do as well in combat.
First Look At Phantom Blade Zero Controller Layout & Off-screen Gameplay
Here's a first look at the controller layout in S-GAME's upcoming action role-playing game, Phantom Blade Zero.
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Good to hear. Do your own thing and challenge the system. I love and respect that.
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So in recent news they said this plays more like Sekiro and Ninja gaiden and nioh but also it isn't a souls game. I guess they just mean it's a pure action game and not an action rpg. Also apparently each weapon type is its own moveset and handles uniquely, which sounds excellent. I think it's more heavily tilted towards the ninja gaiden style of a combo heavy game but maybe it has a bunch of just frame interactions that make it seem like sekiro.
Also a new punk has dropped, cause they call the game "KungfuPunk". I'm here for that all day XD.
It seems this game got a boost in funding after the massive success of Wukong. Now there's greater confidence for indie studios with high aims like the folks working on both titles overseas. This is the best of timelines.
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Also a new punk has dropped, cause they call the game "KungfuPunk". I'm here for that all day XD.
It seems this game got a boost in funding after the massive success of Wukong. Now there's greater confidence for indie studios with high aims like the folks working on both titles overseas. This is the best of timelines.
Phantom Blade Zero Received Extra Funding Thanks to Massive Success of Black Myth Wukong
Allegedly, the hype around Black Myth: Wukong resulted in some extra funding for Phantom Blade Zero, so read this article to find out more.
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The only thing Souls inspired is the level design, according to the creator. So yeah, that's about it. Otherwise, it's more Metal Gear Rising and NG style in terms of combat.
That is really good to hear.
Cool new interview:
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Apparently they're doing wire-fu motion capture for this game like they did in classic kung fu movies. That's why everything looks so smooth.
Also damn, that bot has spammed us to hell. Do we even have any mods here.
Phantom Blade Zero aims to build on Black Myth: Wukong's success and revive the "golden age" of kung fu cinema
When Chinese action game Phantom Blade Zero was first revealed to the world, it drew countless comparisons to FromSoftw…
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Apparently they're doing wire-fu motion capture for this game like they did in classic kung fu movies. That's why everything looks so smooth.
Also damn, that bot has spammed us to hell. Do we even have any mods here.
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