'Pick-up artist' banned from the UK

[Parasondox]

Instead, people need to teach women how to say 'no' and then stick with their decision.

Or maybe people shouldn't pressure women into saying "yes" and get angry and call them a slut or prude for saying "No" to sex and trying to make them feel bad about it or psychologically scare them? I dunno, maybe that would help too.

 

[Kathinka]

Banning him to a remote island which inhabits only wildlife wouldn't even be good enough.

They tried, but the UK turned him away. *ba dum ch*

Anyway, people need to stop telling Julien Blanc to curb his libido.

Instead, people need to teach women how to say 'no' and then stick with their decision.

If it was just him running his mouth, I'd be there with you. However, him touching and kissing girls against their will, that is crossing the line. I feel like he needs to be told to cut that shit out at that point.

 

[giles]

If it was just him running his mouth, I'd be there with you. However, him touching and kissing girls against their will, that is crossing the line. I feel like he needs to be told to cut that shit out at that point.

If he commits a crime he should be punished for that. Why is it that he apparently has these videos of molesting people but there are no charges? Idk something doesn't add up. Manipulating people into doing things they originally didn't want to do is disgusting I agree, but it's also basically marketing in a nutshell. Sleezy sales gimmicks are only "abhorrent" when it's about fucking. Is the line really just "sex"? Really, western world?
Deal with his actual crimes as they come up, don't just deny him a visa because he's an asshole. That's just... weird.

 

[Kathinka]

If it was just him running his mouth, I'd be there with you. However, him touching and kissing girls against their will, that is crossing the line. I feel like he needs to be told to cut that shit out at that point.

Because once a person has been touched or kissed the no longer have the right or capability to say 'No, GTFO'?\

As has been stated before, if the man has no criminal record then this is discrimination, pure and simple.

Now who's the victim?

I don't know. It's just my personal feeling that getting physical with anybody against their will is going too far. If some guy I never met before tried that on me, he'd sure as hell get maced. Of course you can tell him to GTFO after he did it, but by that point it's already too late.

 

[maffgibson]

Quite frankly, passage into another country that is not your own is by NO MEANS a right. It is a privilege.

This is why many immigration policies require even temporary visitors to provide proof that they can support themselves financially: individuals are allowed into foreign countries because the foreign countries believe that they will benefit from the individual's visit: be it from them spending money, forming trade links, teaching their citizens, and so on.

Based on this individual's previous behaviour, he has not demonstrated that his "teaching" will be positive in the slightest. Furthermore, he has boasted of sexually assaulting women on the streets of other foreign countries.

The Home Office is COMPLETELY within their right to deny him access. From everything that has been seen, he will only have a negative impact during his visit.

Any claim of "Oh, he hasn't been convicted of anything, he can do what he likes", only has validity within his home country. It is a privilege to earn, not a right to remove.

 

[Kathinka]

I don't know. It's just my personal feeling that getting physical with anybody against their will is going too far. If some guy I never met before tried that on me, he'd sure as hell get maced. Of course you can tell him to GTFO after he did it, but by that point it's already too late.

And that would be perfectly within your right. As would filing rape/sexual assault charges against the person if they persisted.

Personally, I agree the guy's a sleezeball. But he's not some magician. Nor is he above the law.

Yeah, OK, I can get behind that.

Hmm now I wonder why he hasn't been investigated for sexual assault yet. I'll have to do some more researchs.

 

[maffgibson]

Quite frankly, passage into another country that is not your own is by NO MEANS a right. It is a privilege.

This is why many immigration policies require even temporary visitors to provide proof that they can support themselves financially: individuals are allowed into foreign countries because the foreign countries believe that they will benefit from the individual's visit: be it from them spending money, forming trade links, teaching their citizens, and so on.

Based on this individual's previous behaviour, he has not demonstrated that his "teaching" will be positive in the slightest. Furthermore, he has boasted of sexually assaulting women on the streets of other foreign countries.

The Home Office is COMPLETELY within their right to deny him access. From everything that has been seen, he will only have a negative impact during his visit.

Any claim of "Oh, he hasn't been convicted of anything, he can do what he likes", only has validity within his home country. It is a privilege to earn, not a right to remove.

If he was attempting to enter the country on a work visa (as he probably was), then you're absolutely correct. I used to help international post-doc fellows fill out their paperwork for U.S. work visa applications. They really do have to prove a lot of things before being allowed to enter and work in this country. I imagine the U.K. is similar.

Thanks for the corroboration on that point: I struggled for a bit to try and work out whether my logic was just my hatred of this sort of person wearing a nice suit.

As it is, this is a very different situation to, for example, if he was banned from a city in the US (to my understanding, he is a US citizen) despite not having been convicted of any crime, fair enough. As a citizen of that country, he can wander around it as he likes. But other countries have no obligation to give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Lieju]

Or maybe people shouldn't pressure women into saying "yes" and get angry and call them a slut or prude for saying "No" to sex and trying to make them feel bad about it or psychologically scare them? I dunno, maybe that would help too.

Well, I'd much rather be called a "prude" than submit to having sex with someone I don't like.

When did women suddenly become incapable of making their own decisions and walking away from bad situations? When did they stop having to take responsibility for their own actions?

And women should be allowed to make those decisions without being pressured.
And those 'bad situations' shouldn't exist in the first place!

 

[Frission]

No really sympathy for him, he sounds like a real piece of work. As someone above said, passage into a country is not a right.

 

[Steve Waltz]

Banning him to a remote island which inhabits only wildlife wouldn't even be good enough.

Banning him to a remote island with only Lorena Bobbitt would be best, I think.

The guy is a sleaze ball; it?s nice to know the UK is sticking it to this jerk. This guy is losing money because he can?t do his ?tours,? and that?s something very pleasing. That fact that this guy makes money telling men how to sexually assault random women is appalling.

On the other hand, it?s bad news for Jeremy Kyle. Kyle could have a lot more interesting shows if Blanc was allowed to tour the UK and spread his ?tactics? about (like a plague).

 

[EHKOS]

]Ah, yes, I heard of this guy. He made those videos teaching white men how to pick up Japanese women... by pushing their heads into his crotch while saying "Pikachu!" (With clips of him doing it,) and who's twitter account is filled with such lovely comments like...

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And so much more.

So yeah... I can safely say I feel no sympathy towards this man and think he doesn't deserve to even look at a woman let alone teach other men how to pick them up.

That's fucking disgusting. Where is Dexter when you need him?

OT: The guy's a creep, I wouldn't let him back in the US. Can we just kind of dump him somewhere in the pacific where he can't hurt anyone anymore?

 

[Poetic Nova]

Banning him to a remote island which inhabits only wildlife wouldn't even be good enough.

They tried, but the UK turned him away. *ba dum ch*

Anyway, people need to stop telling Julien Blanc to curb his libido.

Instead, people need to teach women how to say 'no' and then stick with their decision.

Julien's actions cannot be justified.

Banning him to a remote island which inhabits only wildlife wouldn't even be good enough.

Banning him to a remote island with only Lorena Bobbitt would be best, I think.

I admit, I laughed.

The guy is a sleaze ball; it?s nice to know the UK is sticking it to this jerk. This guy is losing money because he can?t do his ?tours,? and that?s something very pleasing. That fact that this guy makes money telling men how to sexually assault random women is appalling.

And I agree with you on this part.

 

[MetalShadowChaos]

I hope he gets systematically banned from everywhere.

To the point where he will one day be sat huddled up in a sailboat in the middle of the Atlantic ocean, no landmass willing to accept his presence, on his last ounce of supplies and wondering what he did wrong.

Then a police boat comes by.

"Sir, there has been a petition and the Atlantic Ocean government has been formed specifically to extradite you."

Then they shoot his boat.

He sinks to the bottom of the ocean (weighed down by his sins), where he is subsequently extradited from Atlantis and the various layers of the Earth. He dies confused in the Earth's core.

 

[Poetic Nova]

]Ah, yes, I heard of this guy. He made those videos teaching white men how to pick up Japanese women... by pushing their heads into his crotch while saying "Pikachu!" (With clips of him doing it,) and who's twitter account is filled with such lovely comments like...

Spoiler

And so much more.

So yeah... I can safely say I feel no sympathy towards this man and think he doesn't deserve to even look at a woman let alone teach other men how to pick them up.

I'd love to kick him in his gonads with my steel toed boots. I'm not exactly someone who is violent but Julien asks for it.

 

[Dr. Thrax]

Oh boy, unfortunately, I doubt he'd be barred from re-entering the US, even though it'd be nice to not have him scurrying about here...
This douchebag actually advocates forcibly shoving her face into your crotch, and choking her as "acceptable pick-up techniques".
His own quote about women in Japan "If you?re a white male, you can do what you want. I?m just romping through the streets, just grabbing girls? heads, just like, head, pfft on the dick."
He's an utter cockstain and should have been the one his mother swallowed.
He attempted an apology at some point, but it was half-assed, as usual.

 

[Lieju]

And women should be allowed to make those decisions without being pressured.
And those 'bad situations' shouldn't exist in the first place!

"Pressure" and "bad situations" are a part of life and living in a socially interactive society, irregardless of gender.

Everything from peer pressure and bullying to walking down a dark street in a rough neighborhood carry cause-effect, consequences, and responsibilities on all sides.

Am I saying this lech is free from all guilt and responsibility? Fuck no. But neither are the women in these situations.

In any social environment, the people you interact with are under no obligation to be your friend. And it's each person's responsibility on how and to what extend they are willing to interact with the other person.

That's called "equality". And it used to be what feminism stood for.

Yeah, I know, I'm just a horrible man-hating feminazi for thinking pressuring and harassing women to have sex is bad.

 

[Poetic Nova]

Julien's actions cannot be justified.

Of course not.

But neither are the actions of the women who agree to sleep with him.

From my understanding, they aren't doing it voluntarely.

 

[Dagda Mor]

Or maybe people shouldn't pressure women into saying "yes" and get angry and call them a slut or prude for saying "No" to sex and trying to make them feel bad about it or psychologically scare them? I dunno, maybe that would help too.

Well, I'd much rather be called a "prude" than submit to having sex with someone I don't like.

When did women suddenly become incapable of making their own decisions and walking away from bad situations? When did they stop having to take responsibility for their own actions?

Women who readily submit to a man's demands? Why aren't feminists up in arms against these women for setting such a bad example?

Some people are just weak and vulnerable. Saying that they deserve whatever fucked up shit happens to them is disgusting. And I seriously doubt that what this guy puts them through helps them build character--he targets these people specifically because he knows that they won't do anything about it.

 

[GrumbleGrump]

I was going to ask why exactly was so bad about a pickup artist getting into the UK, till I saw this.

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And so much more.

So yeah, fuck 'im.

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

I don't like the idea of banning someone from your country just because you disagree with his views. He's just another bullshit artist who suckers people out of their money to listen to his 'wisdom' just this time with a sexist twist why should we fuss over him so much?