No its a Walther 2000, its a 'Semi Automatic Sniper Rifle'. Interesting idea though.Berethond said:Yes, that's an assault rifle with an AA-12 shotgun mounted on the bottom.
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No its a Walther 2000, its a 'Semi Automatic Sniper Rifle'. Interesting idea though.Berethond said:Yes, that's an assault rifle with an AA-12 shotgun mounted on the bottom.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9122/mahgun.jpg
Actually, almost everything in this thread is whatever we want to call it. A WA200 could be modified to work at full-auto, using 5.56 ammunition.Valagetti said:No its a Walther 2000, its a 'Semi Automatic Sniper Rifle'. Interesting idea though.Berethond said:Yes, that's an assault rifle with an AA-12 shotgun mounted on the bottom.
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im pretty sure thats a saiga, not an AA-12...NimbleJack3 said:Actually, almost everything in this thread is whatever we want to call it. A WA200 could be modified to work at full-auto, using 5.56 ammunition.Valagetti said:No its a Walther 2000, its a 'Semi Automatic Sniper Rifle'. Interesting idea though.Berethond said:Yes, that's an assault rifle with an AA-12 shotgun mounted on the bottom.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9122/mahgun.jpg
Dantes Alaska said:im pretty sure thats a saiga, not an AA-12...NimbleJack3 said:Actually, almost everything in this thread is whatever we want to call it. A WA200 could be modified to work at full-auto, using 5.56 ammunition.Valagetti said:No its a Walther 2000, its a 'Semi Automatic Sniper Rifle'. Interesting idea though.Berethond said:Yes, that's an assault rifle with an AA-12 shotgun mounted on the bottom.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9122/mahgun.jpg
It's the angle of the drum mag that gives me the impression, the AA-12 is more straight up and down.WanderingFool said:Dantes Alaska said:im pretty sure thats a saiga, not an AA-12...NimbleJack3 said:Actually, almost everything in this thread is whatever we want to call it. A WA200 could be modified to work at full-auto, using 5.56 ammunition.Valagetti said:No its a Walther 2000, its a 'Semi Automatic Sniper Rifle'. Interesting idea though.Berethond said:Yes, that's an assault rifle with an AA-12 shotgun mounted on the bottom.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9122/mahgun.jpg
Oops! My bad, wrong Saiga...
WHAT!? You would have made the joke too.
I dont really see either.
Who cares what the gun looks like. It's called an AA-12 by the creator, so let's leave it at that. This thread isn't about realism, it's about making guns that look awesome.Dantes Alaska said:It's the angle of the drum mag that gives me the impression, the AA-12 is more straight up and down.WanderingFool said:Dantes Alaska said:im pretty sure thats a saiga, not an AA-12...NimbleJack3 said:Actually, almost everything in this thread is whatever we want to call it. A WA200 could be modified to work at full-auto, using 5.56 ammunition.Valagetti said:No its a Walther 2000, its a 'Semi Automatic Sniper Rifle'. Interesting idea though.Berethond said:Yes, that's an assault rifle with an AA-12 shotgun mounted on the bottom.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9122/mahgun.jpg
Oops! My bad, wrong Saiga...
WHAT!? You would have made the joke too.
I dont really see either.
First off, it's Tactical Concussion Shotgun, assuming you didn't mean to spell it that way.WanderingFool said:I dont know about anybody else, but I wish Dr. Noob would add more SMGs than just the MP5, and would add shotgun and decent LMG parts lik those in old PMG. Anyways, the Thunderer...
This is a 10 gauge shotgun. Its a pump-action design. Its most unique feature is that it has not only a tube magazine, but is capable of using a smaller capacity box magazine. The box mag is inserted into the bottom of the gun, as seen above. The machenism for the tube mag (whish is inside the gun) can be slid back to allow for the box mag. In early testing, thy found that the shells would jam when feed from the tube magazine, and added a small handle on the ejection port slide to allow for unjamming; a intrnal redesign fixed te problem, but the handle stayed. TCS stand for Tacticle Cuncussion Shotgun, with 10 being the shell gauge. It got the nickname "Thunderer" from its load report when fired.
Well, I cant spell worth a shit, so thank you one that.NimbleJack3 said:First off, it's Tactical Concussion Shotgun, assuming you didn't mean to spell it that way.WanderingFool said:I dont know about anybody else, but I wish Dr. Noob would add more SMGs than just the MP5, and would add shotgun and decent LMG parts lik those in old PMG. Anyways, the Thunderer...
This is a 10 gauge shotgun. Its a pump-action design. Its most unique feature is that it has not only a tube magazine, but is capable of using a smaller capacity box magazine. The box mag is inserted into the bottom of the gun, as seen above. The machenism for the tube mag (whish is inside the gun) can be slid back to allow for the box mag. In early testing, thy found that the shells would jam when feed from the tube magazine, and added a small handle on the ejection port slide to allow for unjamming; a intrnal redesign fixed te problem, but the handle stayed. TCS stand for Tacticle Cuncussion Shotgun, with 10 being the shell gauge. It got the nickname "Thunderer" from its load report when fired.
The aesthetics of the gun are good, I like the lines along the top and bottom of the rifle and the handguard is nice and chunky.
However, I can't think of a reason to use both box and tubular magazines, and the magazine you've used is unsuited to holding shotgun shells.
Actually, a decently-sized box magazine can hold just as many shells as a regular tube magazine. An example is the Saiga-12, which had box magazines holding around 5-12 rounds[footnote]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saiga-12[/footnote]. Compare it to a regular, tube-magazine shotgun (I used the Mossberg 500) and the ammo capacity is the same[footnote]http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/usa/mossberg-500-e.html[/footnote].WanderingFool said:Well, I cant spell worth a shit, so thank you one that.NimbleJack3 said:First off, it's Tactical Concussion Shotgun, assuming you didn't mean to spell it that way.WanderingFool said:I dont know about anybody else, but I wish Dr. Noob would add more SMGs than just the MP5, and would add shotgun and decent LMG parts lik those in old PMG. Anyways, the Thunderer...
This is a 10 gauge shotgun. Its a pump-action design. Its most unique feature is that it has not only a tube magazine, but is capable of using a smaller capacity box magazine. The box mag is inserted into the bottom of the gun, as seen above. The machenism for the tube mag (whish is inside the gun) can be slid back to allow for the box mag. In early testing, thy found that the shells would jam when feed from the tube magazine, and added a small handle on the ejection port slide to allow for unjamming; a intrnal redesign fixed te problem, but the handle stayed. TCS stand for Tacticle Cuncussion Shotgun, with 10 being the shell gauge. It got the nickname "Thunderer" from its load report when fired.
The aesthetics of the gun are good, I like the lines along the top and bottom of the rifle and the handguard is nice and chunky.
However, I can't think of a reason to use both box and tubular magazines, and the magazine you've used is unsuited to holding shotgun shells.
As for using both the box and tube, I should have wrote this up there, That takes longer to reload, a shotgun's tube maazine, or just slapping a ready to go box mag in. The difference is that the Tube mag holds around 8 shells, the box only holds 5. Its a trade off idea of speed for more ammo. Not really necessary, but I dont see many shotguns like that, so I made my own. For the final part, why is it unsuited?
Well, the more you know... and also that explains why I didnt see a message saying you replied. Anyways, Thanks, that does help.NimbleJack3 said:-snip
I hope this helps.
EDIT: Durp durp forgot to quote you.
Well, it looks like you can hold the gun, so a point there. One thing that bugged me from the start is the magazine placement for the 5.56 ammunition - they look like they're about to fall out. However, I like the look of the stock and along the top of the receiver.the clockmaker said:
For use in a book that I am trying to write, the heckler and Koch G20 series. Taking into account the succsess of the G36, series, and the percieved geopolitical trends of the day, tho older concept of a 'battle rifle' was falling further and further out of favor.
Its replacement was to be rugged, fully automatic, compact and useable in a variety of situations, with the primary focus being asymetric warfare in urban terrain.
The G20 incorporates the design concept behind the Israli Tavor, whilst retaining the succsessful firing mechanism of the G36 series, with a notable addition of modulality similar to the later scions of the armalite family.
Unfortunatly, following the Pakistan event in 2017, and the unites states subsequent withdrawl from the world stage, the G20 only really saw succsess in the EUIF and its member forces.
Thoughts? critiques? PIES?
the pistol grip, folding grip and ejection port are too far forward, and the magazine is too far back, also the folding stock is completely unneccessarythe clockmaker said:
For use in a book that I am trying to write, the heckler and Koch G20 series. Taking into account the succsess of the G36, series, and the percieved geopolitical trends of the day, tho older concept of a 'battle rifle' was falling further and further out of favor.
Its replacement was to be rugged, fully automatic, compact and useable in a variety of situations, with the primary focus being asymetric warfare in urban terrain.
The G20 incorporates the design concept behind the Israli Tavor, whilst retaining the succsessful firing mechanism of the G36 series, with a notable addition of modulality similar to the later scions of the armalite family.
Unfortunatly, following the Pakistan event in 2017, and the unites states subsequent withdrawl from the world stage, the G20 only really saw succsess in the EUIF and its member forces.
Thoughts? critiques? PIES?
its got an enclosed hammerNimbleJack3 said:That's a really nice lever, I love the lines. The front of the body is a little strange, however, probably due to the shape of the MOE handguard. Otherwise that's a bloody awesome lever-action revolver rifle.Stickyreiss said:
...Wait, how would the cocking mechanism work? Where's the hammer?
I think the ejection port is okay, and so is the forward grip. but the stock is WAY too far from the grip.blind_dead_mcjones said:the pistol grip, folding grip and ejection port are too far forward, and the magazine is too far back, also the folding stock is completely unneccessarythe clockmaker said:
For use in a book that I am trying to write, the heckler and Koch G20 series. Taking into account the succsess of the G36, series, and the percieved geopolitical trends of the day, tho older concept of a 'battle rifle' was falling further and further out of favor.
Its replacement was to be rugged, fully automatic, compact and useable in a variety of situations, with the primary focus being asymetric warfare in urban terrain.
The G20 incorporates the design concept behind the Israli Tavor, whilst retaining the succsessful firing mechanism of the G36 series, with a notable addition of modulality similar to the later scions of the armalite family.
Unfortunatly, following the Pakistan event in 2017, and the unites states subsequent withdrawl from the world stage, the G20 only really saw succsess in the EUIF and its member forces.
Thoughts? critiques? PIES?
the foreward grip is way too close to the muzzle, anyone firing that would get burns on their knuckles, as for the ejection port on it, there is no concievable way the bolt can snatch onto the back of a cartige and chamber it after ejecting a round, unless its using some new kind of way of doing which i haven't heard about (but seeing as in its description its said to use the G36's firing mechanism that is not the case)Stickyreiss said:I think the ejection port is okay, and so is the forward grip. but the stock is WAY too far from the grip.blind_dead_mcjones said:the pistol grip, folding grip and ejection port are too far forward, and the magazine is too far back, also the folding stock is completely unneccessarythe clockmaker said:
For use in a book that I am trying to write, the heckler and Koch G20 series. Taking into account the succsess of the G36, series, and the percieved geopolitical trends of the day, tho older concept of a 'battle rifle' was falling further and further out of favor.
Its replacement was to be rugged, fully automatic, compact and useable in a variety of situations, with the primary focus being asymetric warfare in urban terrain.
The G20 incorporates the design concept behind the Israli Tavor, whilst retaining the succsessful firing mechanism of the G36 series, with a notable addition of modulality similar to the later scions of the armalite family.
Unfortunatly, following the Pakistan event in 2017, and the unites states subsequent withdrawl from the world stage, the G20 only really saw succsess in the EUIF and its member forces.
Thoughts? critiques? PIES?
I'm talking from the standpoint of the thread's purpose. these are fantasy weapons, the 2 things you mentioned don't stand out to the layman, but the grip would be literally out of reach, and thats kinda obvious.blind_dead_mcjones said:the foreward grip is way too close to the muzzle, anyone firing that would get burns on their knuckles, as for the ejection port on it, there is no concievable way the bolt can snatch onto the back of a cartige and chamber it after ejecting a round, unless its using some new kind of way of doing which i haven't heard about (but seeing as in its description its said to use the G36's firing mechanism that is not the case)Stickyreiss said:I think the ejection port is okay, and so is the forward grip. but the stock is WAY too far from the grip.blind_dead_mcjones said:the pistol grip, folding grip and ejection port are too far forward, and the magazine is too far back, also the folding stock is completely unneccessarythe clockmaker said:
For use in a book that I am trying to write, the heckler and Koch G20 series. Taking into account the succsess of the G36, series, and the percieved geopolitical trends of the day, tho older concept of a 'battle rifle' was falling further and further out of favor.
Its replacement was to be rugged, fully automatic, compact and useable in a variety of situations, with the primary focus being asymetric warfare in urban terrain.
The G20 incorporates the design concept behind the Israli Tavor, whilst retaining the succsessful firing mechanism of the G36 series, with a notable addition of modulality similar to the later scions of the armalite family.
Unfortunatly, following the Pakistan event in 2017, and the unites states subsequent withdrawl from the world stage, the G20 only really saw succsess in the EUIF and its member forces.
Thoughts? critiques? PIES?