Piracy Critic Admits to Huge Pirated Music Collection

mjc0961

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Ha! What a tool she is. I'd go pirate some of her books just for spite, but I'm not a scumbag like she is.

thublihnk said:
Hypocrite, just like the rest of the pirate brow-beaters.
Right because the pirates themselves are so much better, what with their stealing everything.
 

logiman

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It`s a case of do what the priest sais, not what the priest does.

still..she`s stupid imo..you don`t just prostest against rape and then go at home and rape someone from your basement..just my 2 cents
 

Eri

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PayJ567 said:
Jiraiya72 said:
PayJ567 said:
Jiraiya72 said:
PayJ567 said:
Jiraiya72 said:
PayJ567 said:
Jiraiya72 said:
PayJ567 said:
Oh that's well funny there son. Destroy your mums credibility and damage her career. Although I'm glad she was found out as a hypocrite that is no way for a son to act.

Little ****.
Sorry but no one is above the law, especially not the law of hypocrisy (hyperbole). I love some of my family but I'd have no qualms about throwing them under the bus if they did something stupidly hypocritical or illegal. Are you going to tell me I'm lacking in morals for doing the right thing?
No I'm saying you lack respect and you clearly don't deserve the family you have been given if you have no qualms about throwing your family under a bus.
Jiraiya72 said:
PayJ567 said:
JaredXE said:
PayJ567 said:
Oh that's well funny there son. Destroy your mums credibility and damage her career. Although I'm glad she was found out as a hypocrite that is no way for a son to act.

Little ****.

Her credibility was shot the moment she admitted about the knock-off handbags and lied about "Losing a million kroner". Her son just pointed out that mommy shouldn't lie. Besides, I hardly think her career is damaged, she writes childrens books; kids don't pay attention to this crap.

Good on her son, he held his mother to the same morals that she probably held him to.
Well I disagree you just don't treat the women who raised you and paid for you since birth like this. Regardless of what it did the kid is a shit ungrateful spoilt brat he should be fucking spanked for eternity for this.
Also, you owe nothing to your parents for raising you. They chose to have children and they have to take care of you. It is their job and responsibility. (Which should be obvious due to the fact it's illegal not to take care of your kids)
Again all your showing me if you lack any respect for your parents which is incredibly wrong.
You're assuming based on a parent being a parent that they ever gave you respect at all. Which all parents don't. Lacking respect is only bad if they deserved respect. As for the bus, well, if their moral or illegal mistake could cost me my reputation or my freedom, why should I not throw them under it? I'm not going to have my character assassinated all because of some "respect" that I apparently owe them which prevented me from going to the authorities.
Haha "Character Assassinated" do you actually listen to yourself talk?

I mean really, you are clearly like a typical angsty teenager. Soon you'll grow up and realise all what your parents have done for you, or maybe you never will and you'll live a failure of a life and blame it all on your parents or someone else.
Do you listen to -yourself-? I'm the one siding on the Just side of the law and morals and you're calling me an angsty teen? Maybe you'll realize that just because people had children, doesn't mean they deserve respect. All they've done for me? Please don't say things like you -know- I had an easy life.
Oh wow, claiming you didn't have it easy as a child. I really didn't see that one coming. Look pal, it's the past man the fuck up about it. Grow up, noone cares about your problems and the only one keeping them problems is you.

And you're not siding with law and morals you're siding with idiocy. If your mum was pirating music on her ipod you bring it up at the dinner table or something. You don't go straight to the media with it. THAT'S THE MORAL THING TO DO. As it causes the least damage for all sides. So clearly you are wrong, so you don't have an answer. Oh wait I bet you will ignore this point and start ranting on about my previous point.

God forbid should you admit your wrong and move on.
You mean like how you'd admit you're wrong and move on? Yeah, thought so. I don't even understand how you can attempt to defend illegal activities or un-moral activities by saying going to an authority is the "idiotic" thing to do. It sounds like this is pretty personal for you. I never once said if you find something like illegal music you should just go to the cops, but if questioned, you would lie to the police? At the risk of being thrown in prison?
Why are you speculating. You are wrong in this situation. Stop bringing in other factors like jail. The point is he should of brought it up at the dinner table not gone to the media.

Throwing your family under a bus because they where hypocritical is wrong.

You are wrong.
Sorry, but you're in the wrong. I advocate against illegal things and un-moral things. If you advocate the opposite, you're automatically wrong. Also, He didn't just flat go to the media, the media was questioning his mother and he threw it in there.
 

Eri

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PayJ567 said:
Jiraiya72 said:
PayJ567 said:
Jiraiya72 said:
PayJ567 said:
Jiraiya72 said:
PayJ567 said:
Jiraiya72 said:
PayJ567 said:
Jiraiya72 said:
PayJ567 said:
Oh that's well funny there son. Destroy your mums credibility and damage her career. Although I'm glad she was found out as a hypocrite that is no way for a son to act.

Little ****.
Sorry but no one is above the law, especially not the law of hypocrisy (hyperbole). I love some of my family but I'd have no qualms about throwing them under the bus if they did something stupidly hypocritical or illegal. Are you going to tell me I'm lacking in morals for doing the right thing?
No I'm saying you lack respect and you clearly don't deserve the family you have been given if you have no qualms about throwing your family under a bus.
Jiraiya72 said:
PayJ567 said:
JaredXE said:
PayJ567 said:
Oh that's well funny there son. Destroy your mums credibility and damage her career. Although I'm glad she was found out as a hypocrite that is no way for a son to act.

Little ****.

Her credibility was shot the moment she admitted about the knock-off handbags and lied about "Losing a million kroner". Her son just pointed out that mommy shouldn't lie. Besides, I hardly think her career is damaged, she writes childrens books; kids don't pay attention to this crap.

Good on her son, he held his mother to the same morals that she probably held him to.
Well I disagree you just don't treat the women who raised you and paid for you since birth like this. Regardless of what it did the kid is a shit ungrateful spoilt brat he should be fucking spanked for eternity for this.
Also, you owe nothing to your parents for raising you. They chose to have children and they have to take care of you. It is their job and responsibility. (Which should be obvious due to the fact it's illegal not to take care of your kids)
Again all your showing me if you lack any respect for your parents which is incredibly wrong.
You're assuming based on a parent being a parent that they ever gave you respect at all. Which all parents don't. Lacking respect is only bad if they deserved respect. As for the bus, well, if their moral or illegal mistake could cost me my reputation or my freedom, why should I not throw them under it? I'm not going to have my character assassinated all because of some "respect" that I apparently owe them which prevented me from going to the authorities.
Haha "Character Assassinated" do you actually listen to yourself talk?

I mean really, you are clearly like a typical angsty teenager. Soon you'll grow up and realise all what your parents have done for you, or maybe you never will and you'll live a failure of a life and blame it all on your parents or someone else.
Do you listen to -yourself-? I'm the one siding on the Just side of the law and morals and you're calling me an angsty teen? Maybe you'll realize that just because people had children, doesn't mean they deserve respect. All they've done for me? Please don't say things like you -know- I had an easy life.
Oh wow, claiming you didn't have it easy as a child. I really didn't see that one coming. Look pal, it's the past man the fuck up about it. Grow up, noone cares about your problems and the only one keeping them problems is you.

And you're not siding with law and morals you're siding with idiocy. If your mum was pirating music on her ipod you bring it up at the dinner table or something. You don't go straight to the media with it. THAT'S THE MORAL THING TO DO. As it causes the least damage for all sides. So clearly you are wrong, so you don't have an answer. Oh wait I bet you will ignore this point and start ranting on about my previous point.

God forbid should you admit your wrong and move on.
You mean like how you'd admit you're wrong and move on? Yeah, thought so. I don't even understand how you can attempt to defend illegal activities or un-moral activities by saying going to an authority is the "idiotic" thing to do. It sounds like this is pretty personal for you. I never once said if you find something like illegal music you should just go to the cops, but if questioned, you would lie to the police? At the risk of being thrown in prison?
Why are you speculating. You are wrong in this situation. Stop bringing in other factors like jail. The point is he should of brought it up at the dinner table not gone to the media.

Throwing your family under a bus because they where hypocritical is wrong.

You are wrong.
Sorry, but you're in the wrong. I advocate against illegal things and un-moral things. If you advocate the opposite, you're automatically wrong. Also, He didn't just flat go to the media, the media was questioning his mother and he threw it in there.
Funny thing is I never said I advocate doing immoral or illegal things. You are the one who outright said you would throw your family under a bus for being hypocritical. Infact all I said was that the moral thing to do would be to bring it up away from the media.

So you can continue this game of quote tennis or you can apologise for your mistake in logic. Move on from this situation safe in the knowledge you handled it like an adult and grow from it.

Who knows this could be the defining moment in your teen life, maybe the next time you catch your parents smoking after they told you not to you won't throw them under a bus. Instead maybe you'll understand that you should do as they say not as they do as they are trying to raise you right.

Well I can only hope that this is the case, otherwise I might have to call up your family and alert them to the risks of walking on bus routes with you near them.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then, since I know I'm clearly in the right and you believe you're clearly in the right. This argument is going nowhere. Also you might want to stop with the personal attacks. Just a suggestion.
 

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thublihnk said:
It's not a generalization. Everyone infringes on copyrights. Copyright law is written in such a way that it really is impossible to dodge 'infringement'. Ever listened to a CD in your car with the windows down? Public performance. Ever let someone borrow a CD for a while without supervising what they did with it for every single second they had it? Well, if they copied the tracks onto their computer, then you could be sued for positively amazing amounts of money. And that's not all. There are incalculable ways that you could be infringing in your everyday life. And every single one of these so-called-infringements could be justified as 'stealing' the same way anti-pirate activists and lobbyists call file-sharing stealing.
When you put it like that, I can understand your opinion. Still, some of us do our best to avoid things like that. I don't, for instance, loan out CD's or play them in my car with the window down (or at all, for that matter). I pay for my materials. I feel that I have to even if only because of my line of work.

Well, that and an inherently ingrained moral fiber that seems to be lacking these days.
 

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Lol@ The troll in this thread calling people "angsty Teenagers" when he's 17 himself.That made me giggle.


Anyway, Heh. I feel like I've heard this before. Not entirely sure where. It was probably just for "The Funny" on a TV show at some point. Either way it's quite humorous how things always manage to turn around and slap people in the face. All the time.
 

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I love the bit where she says about musicians doing live stuff just to make money as their cds get pirated, only for it to turn out she is part of that issue.
Whats the bet that some of her ipod content comes from said local musicians?
If i was her son that would tick me off and make me say something.

To quote others. From the mouth of babes...

Piracy is bad, so long as it costs me money is not a valid arguement.

Yeah i laugh at hypocrisy in general quite a bit. Not just from Republicans in airport bathrooms.

There was a British MP with the Liberal Democrat party, got elected standing for his strong family values and had a strong anti gay standpoint. Then oopsie he was challenged by a paper over using a rent boy himself regularly. Mark Oaten. There was another from the same party before that as well.
 

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On the subject of digital media and piracy, there was a great David Wong article on Cracked not too long ago that brought up, among other things, ebooks and their prices. What do you charge for a creation that can theoretically be multiplied infinitely with next-to no cost? Seriously, do you charge more for an ebook than a regular book because of the potential for piracy? Or do you charge less because your customers aren't actually buying anything physical? Or... Like, what's the precedent for that?

Creators wanna be paid, distributers and publishers wanna be paid, consumers wanna pay as little as possible, a medium for freely sharing creations becomes available... Mess ensues.

Anyway, the irony in Ragde's situation is great. Just great.
 

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PayJ567 said:
And all of your points are 100% invalid as you are speculating. Maybe his father was Steve Mcqueen and he was killed by pirates so he has a massive reason for hating pirates.

Oh no wait I agree, his dad steve mcqueen was killed by pirates so he has every right to go to the media about this situation.
I hate to point out the bloody-fucking-obvious but so are you. It's entirely possible that going to the media was a last resort. You are the one speculating he only did it because he was a shitty son. Your definition of what constitutes respect and what deserves it is also lacking. Stealing from your neighbour then complaining about your recent theft is disrespectful to your neighbour. You deserve to be exposed. Just because she was a good mother doesnt mean she was a good anti-piracy spokesperson.

Respect might give you protection from having your questionable decisions probed but it shouldnt give you immunity from having your bad decisions questioned. Unless you think the soldiers who exposed the US torture were being disrespectful to their superiors? Or that no one should ever question Bush and Obama (heavens forbid we disrespect the president!).

He made the choice that his mother deserved exposing, it is his decision and you have no right to judge harshly him for it without knowing the exact circumstances and what he was thinking at the time.
 

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PayJ567 said:
Jiraiya72 said:
PayJ567 said:
Oh that's well funny there son. Destroy your mums credibility and damage her career. Although I'm glad she was found out as a hypocrite that is no way for a son to act.

Little ****.
Sorry but no one is above the law, especially not the law of hypocrisy (hyperbole). I love some of my family but I'd have no qualms about throwing them under the bus if they did something stupidly hypocritical or illegal. Are you going to tell me I'm lacking in morals for doing the right thing?
No I'm saying you lack respect and you clearly don't deserve the family you have been given if you have no qualms about throwing your family under a bus.
Jiraiya72 said:
PayJ567 said:
JaredXE said:
PayJ567 said:
Oh that's well funny there son. Destroy your mums credibility and damage her career. Although I'm glad she was found out as a hypocrite that is no way for a son to act.

Little ****.

Her credibility was shot the moment she admitted about the knock-off handbags and lied about "Losing a million kroner". Her son just pointed out that mommy shouldn't lie. Besides, I hardly think her career is damaged, she writes childrens books; kids don't pay attention to this crap.

Good on her son, he held his mother to the same morals that she probably held him to.
Well I disagree you just don't treat the women who raised you and paid for you since birth like this. Regardless of what it did the kid is a shit ungrateful spoilt brat he should be fucking spanked for eternity for this.
Also, you owe nothing to your parents for raising you. They chose to have children and they have to take care of you. It is their job and responsibility. (Which should be obvious due to the fact it's illegal not to take care of your kids)
Again all your showing me if you lack any respect for your parents which is incredibly wrong.
What if your parents are serial killers?

I'd have to more of the context in which he said it to decide whether he was in the right. I'm leaning towards it, though.
 

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I've noticed a few cases of region lock with regards to music distribution. This is where in its impossible to purchase music due to its production in a region where trade obstacles are sufficient to stop normal market valuation.

Total globalization has not happened yet.
 

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thublihnk said:
Hypocrite, just like the rest of the pirate brow-beaters.
O RLY?

I don't have any pirated content on my computer, iPod, or other household gadgets. Does that make me a hypocrite, Mr. Generalizer?
 

lacktheknack

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PayJ567 said:
Jiraiya72 said:
PayJ567 said:
Oh that's well funny there son. Destroy your mums credibility and damage her career. Although I'm glad she was found out as a hypocrite that is no way for a son to act.

Little ****.
Sorry but no one is above the law, especially not the law of hypocrisy (hyperbole). I love some of my family but I'd have no qualms about throwing them under the bus if they did something stupidly hypocritical or illegal. Are you going to tell me I'm lacking in morals for doing the right thing?
No I'm saying you lack respect and you clearly don't deserve the family you have been given if you have no qualms about throwing your family under a bus.
Jiraiya72 said:
PayJ567 said:
JaredXE said:
PayJ567 said:
Oh that's well funny there son. Destroy your mums credibility and damage her career. Although I'm glad she was found out as a hypocrite that is no way for a son to act.

Little ****.

Her credibility was shot the moment she admitted about the knock-off handbags and lied about "Losing a million kroner". Her son just pointed out that mommy shouldn't lie. Besides, I hardly think her career is damaged, she writes childrens books; kids don't pay attention to this crap.

Good on her son, he held his mother to the same morals that she probably held him to.
Well I disagree you just don't treat the women who raised you and paid for you since birth like this. Regardless of what it did the kid is a shit ungrateful spoilt brat he should be fucking spanked for eternity for this.
Also, you owe nothing to your parents for raising you. They chose to have children and they have to take care of you. It is their job and responsibility. (Which should be obvious due to the fact it's illegal not to take care of your kids)
Again all your showing me if you lack any respect for your parents which is incredibly wrong.
Interesting question: What if your parents said "Always be honest"?

Then you're disrespecting their wishes either way, and it's their fault.
 

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Ironic Pirate said:
big massive snip
I agree with Jiraiya. Just because there your parents doesn't mean they can't be deeply flawed. I mean this kid could have been pointing this out to his mum the whole time, and yet she proceeds with her statements, this may have been the kids last choice, to publicly humiliate his mum in front of the nation. But she did deserve it. She, basically I feel know would be the best tie to use the age old (at least dictionary old) expression of "if you looked hypocrite up in the dictionary there would be a picture of her. I mean come on!

And her denouncement of genuine Prada bags as being too expensive, have you seen how much some audiobooks cost on iTunes?! £50 for Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. I mean sure thats a long ass book, but presumably her audiobooks (if she has any) aren't going to be much cheaper.
 

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newwiseman said:
I was reminded of the us congressman who was anti-homosexual anything that got caught picking up guys in airport bathrooms.

To paraphrase Al Mooney "everybody wanna be a ni##$%, aint no body wanna be a ni##$%."
You mean Larry Craig? He wasn't just picking up gays he was apparently trying to hire a gay prostitute. Yay for family values!

Rainboq said:
*watches her credibility circle the drain before disappearing*

Whelp, that was entertaining!

*waits for lawsuits against her by the various copyright hounds*
As much as I hate the RIAA I would actually enjoy seeing this legal battle play out. She might even become an anti litigation activist once she sees the kind of shit that gets pulled by Lars Ulrich and Gene Simmons.