I'm not gonna get involved, but you owe more than you can possibly conceive to your parents for raising you. If you have kids someday you'll understand what I mean.Jiraiya72 said:You're assuming based on a parent being a parent that they ever gave you respect at all. Which all parents don't. Lacking respect is only bad if they deserved respect. As for the bus, well, if their moral or illegal mistake could cost me my reputation or my freedom, why should I not throw them under it? I'm not going to have my character assassinated all because of some "respect" that I apparently owe them which prevented me from going to the authorities.PayJ567 said:No I'm saying you lack respect and you clearly don't deserve the family you have been given if you have no qualms about throwing your family under a bus.Jiraiya72 said:Sorry but no one is above the law, especially not the law of hypocrisy (hyperbole). I love some of my family but I'd have no qualms about throwing them under the bus if they did something stupidly hypocritical or illegal. Are you going to tell me I'm lacking in morals for doing the right thing?PayJ567 said:Oh that's well funny there son. Destroy your mums credibility and damage her career. Although I'm glad she was found out as a hypocrite that is no way for a son to act.
Little ****.Again all your showing me if you lack any respect for your parents which is incredibly wrong.Jiraiya72 said:Also, you owe nothing to your parents for raising you. They chose to have children and they have to take care of you. It is their job and responsibility. (Which should be obvious due to the fact it's illegal not to take care of your kids)PayJ567 said:Well I disagree you just don't treat the women who raised you and paid for you since birth like this. Regardless of what it did the kid is a shit ungrateful spoilt brat he should be fucking spanked for eternity for this.JaredXE said:PayJ567 said:Oh that's well funny there son. Destroy your mums credibility and damage her career. Although I'm glad she was found out as a hypocrite that is no way for a son to act.
Little ****.
Her credibility was shot the moment she admitted about the knock-off handbags and lied about "Losing a million kroner". Her son just pointed out that mommy shouldn't lie. Besides, I hardly think her career is damaged, she writes childrens books; kids don't pay attention to this crap.
Good on her son, he held his mother to the same morals that she probably held him to.
your parents obviously respected you enough to feed youJiraiya72 said:You're assuming based on a parent being a parent that they ever gave you respect at all. Which all parents don't. Lacking respect is only bad if they deserved respect. As for the bus, well, if their moral or illegal mistake could cost me my reputation or my freedom, why should I not throw them under it? I'm not going to have my character assassinated all because of some "respect" that I apparently owe them which prevented me from going to the authorities.PayJ567 said:No I'm saying you lack respect and you clearly don't deserve the family you have been given if you have no qualms about throwing your family under a bus.Jiraiya72 said:Sorry but no one is above the law, especially not the law of hypocrisy (hyperbole). I love some of my family but I'd have no qualms about throwing them under the bus if they did something stupidly hypocritical or illegal. Are you going to tell me I'm lacking in morals for doing the right thing?PayJ567 said:Oh that's well funny there son. Destroy your mums credibility and damage her career. Although I'm glad she was found out as a hypocrite that is no way for a son to act.
Little ****.Again all your showing me if you lack any respect for your parents which is incredibly wrong.Jiraiya72 said:Also, you owe nothing to your parents for raising you. They chose to have children and they have to take care of you. It is their job and responsibility. (Which should be obvious due to the fact it's illegal not to take care of your kids)PayJ567 said:Well I disagree you just don't treat the women who raised you and paid for you since birth like this. Regardless of what it did the kid is a shit ungrateful spoilt brat he should be fucking spanked for eternity for this.JaredXE said:PayJ567 said:Oh that's well funny there son. Destroy your mums credibility and damage her career. Although I'm glad she was found out as a hypocrite that is no way for a son to act.
Little ****.
Her credibility was shot the moment she admitted about the knock-off handbags and lied about "Losing a million kroner". Her son just pointed out that mommy shouldn't lie. Besides, I hardly think her career is damaged, she writes childrens books; kids don't pay attention to this crap.
Good on her son, he held his mother to the same morals that she probably held him to.
Eh, it discredits her, but not any of the arguments made against piracy. It just shows how easy it is for people to fool themselves with shoddy, half-assed justifications.Andy Chalk said:Piracy Critic Admits to Huge Pirated Music Collection
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Perhaps I overreacted by saying nothing but it gets on my nerves when parents and others act like because a guy and girl had sex and had a kid they raised, that the child should be all grateful for something the child was already owed by the parents.Andy Chalk said:This isn't really related to the matter at hand, but that's a horrible attitude. You owe your parents your life and your upbringing, and I would hope you'd show them some regard for that.Jiraiya72 said:Also, you owe nothing to your parents for raising you. They chose to have children and they have to take care of you. It is their job and responsibility. (Which should be obvious due to the fact it's illegal not to take care of your kids)
I agree with you that she deserved to be humiliated, but she didn't deserve to be betrayed by something she painfully forced from her vagina and spent thousands on raising.NeedAUserName said:I agree with Jiraiya. Just because there your parents doesn't mean they can't be deeply flawed. I mean this kid could have been pointing this out to his mum the whole time, and yet she proceeds with her statements, this may have been the kids last choice, to publicly humiliate his mum in front of the nation. But she did deserve it. She, basically I feel know would be the best tie to use the age old (at least dictionary old) expression of "if you looked hypocrite up in the dictionary there would be a picture of her. I mean come on!Ironic Pirate said:big massive snip
And her denouncement of genuine Prada bags as being too expensive, have you seen how much some audiobooks cost on iTunes?! £50 for Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. I mean sure thats a long ass book, but presumably her audiobooks (if she has any) aren't going to be much cheaper.
No, but I bet if you pirate songs/games/movies/books/whatever, you would be mortified if someone in your own family threw YOU under the bus.Jiraiya72 said:Sorry but no one is above the law, especially not the law of hypocrisy (hyperbole). I love some of my family but I'd have no qualms about throwing them under the bus if they did something stupidly hypocritical or illegal. Are you going to tell me I'm lacking in morals for doing the right thing?PayJ567 said:Oh that's well funny there son. Destroy your mums credibility and damage her career. Although I'm glad she was found out as a hypocrite that is no way for a son to act.
Little ****.
so you'd let yourself be thrown under a buss for perhaps thousands of dollars as well as jail time if the authors of said music decided to sue? and copyright lawsSpot1990 said:Gotta go with Pay on this one, if you disagree with something a loved one is doing, do so more tactfully. Don't humiliate your own mum in the media. I mean if they were being interviewed together their relationship probably isn't that strained, if she's a bad mum and lost the respect of her son somehow fair enough (but we've got no indication of anything like that). To throw your mum under the bus for something so petty is poor form.PayJ567 said:Haha "Character Assassinated" do you actually listen to yourself talk?Jiraiya72 said:You're assuming based on a parent being a parent that they ever gave you respect at all. Which all parents don't. Lacking respect is only bad if they deserved respect. As for the bus, well, if their moral or illegal mistake could cost me my reputation or my freedom, why should I not throw them under it? I'm not going to have my character assassinated all because of some "respect" that I apparently owe them which prevented me from going to the authorities.PayJ567 said:No I'm saying you lack respect and you clearly don't deserve the family you have been given if you have no qualms about throwing your family under a bus.Jiraiya72 said:Sorry but no one is above the law, especially not the law of hypocrisy (hyperbole). I love some of my family but I'd have no qualms about throwing them under the bus if they did something stupidly hypocritical or illegal. Are you going to tell me I'm lacking in morals for doing the right thing?PayJ567 said:Oh that's well funny there son. Destroy your mums credibility and damage her career. Although I'm glad she was found out as a hypocrite that is no way for a son to act.
Little ****.Again all your showing me if you lack any respect for your parents which is incredibly wrong.Jiraiya72 said:Also, you owe nothing to your parents for raising you. They chose to have children and they have to take care of you. It is their job and responsibility. (Which should be obvious due to the fact it's illegal not to take care of your kids)PayJ567 said:Well I disagree you just don't treat the women who raised you and paid for you since birth like this. Regardless of what it did the kid is a shit ungrateful spoilt brat he should be fucking spanked for eternity for this.JaredXE said:PayJ567 said:Oh that's well funny there son. Destroy your mums credibility and damage her career. Although I'm glad she was found out as a hypocrite that is no way for a son to act.
Little ****.
Her credibility was shot the moment she admitted about the knock-off handbags and lied about "Losing a million kroner". Her son just pointed out that mommy shouldn't lie. Besides, I hardly think her career is damaged, she writes childrens books; kids don't pay attention to this crap.
Good on her son, he held his mother to the same morals that she probably held him to.
I mean really, you are clearly like a typical angsty teenager. Soon you'll grow up and realise all what your parents have done for you, or maybe you never will and you'll live a failure of a life and blame it all on your parents or someone else.
EDIT: I mean I don't know about the rest of you but my mum was there to help me deal with and clean up a fair few of my own messes and I'd do the same for her.
well you are quite lucky good sir, in my family, if you fuck shit up, your ass is under that bus faster than you can say "woops", and i've had it happen a few times now, not saying i didn't deserve it but just saying it does happen, quite often in my area, gotta take care of your own shit.Spot1990 said:Gotta go with Pay on this one, if you disagree with something a loved one is doing, do so more tactfully. Don't humiliate your own mum in the media. I mean if they were being interviewed together their relationship probably isn't that strained, if she's a bad mum and lost the respect of her son somehow fair enough (but we've got no indication of anything like that). To throw your mum under the bus for something so petty is poor form.PayJ567 said:Haha "Character Assassinated" do you actually listen to yourself talk?Jiraiya72 said:You're assuming based on a parent being a parent that they ever gave you respect at all. Which all parents don't. Lacking respect is only bad if they deserved respect. As for the bus, well, if their moral or illegal mistake could cost me my reputation or my freedom, why should I not throw them under it? I'm not going to have my character assassinated all because of some "respect" that I apparently owe them which prevented me from going to the authorities.PayJ567 said:No I'm saying you lack respect and you clearly don't deserve the family you have been given if you have no qualms about throwing your family under a bus.Jiraiya72 said:Sorry but no one is above the law, especially not the law of hypocrisy (hyperbole). I love some of my family but I'd have no qualms about throwing them under the bus if they did something stupidly hypocritical or illegal. Are you going to tell me I'm lacking in morals for doing the right thing?PayJ567 said:Oh that's well funny there son. Destroy your mums credibility and damage her career. Although I'm glad she was found out as a hypocrite that is no way for a son to act.
Little ****.Again all your showing me if you lack any respect for your parents which is incredibly wrong.Jiraiya72 said:Also, you owe nothing to your parents for raising you. They chose to have children and they have to take care of you. It is their job and responsibility. (Which should be obvious due to the fact it's illegal not to take care of your kids)PayJ567 said:Well I disagree you just don't treat the women who raised you and paid for you since birth like this. Regardless of what it did the kid is a shit ungrateful spoilt brat he should be fucking spanked for eternity for this.JaredXE said:PayJ567 said:Oh that's well funny there son. Destroy your mums credibility and damage her career. Although I'm glad she was found out as a hypocrite that is no way for a son to act.
Little ****.
Her credibility was shot the moment she admitted about the knock-off handbags and lied about "Losing a million kroner". Her son just pointed out that mommy shouldn't lie. Besides, I hardly think her career is damaged, she writes childrens books; kids don't pay attention to this crap.
Good on her son, he held his mother to the same morals that she probably held him to.
I mean really, you are clearly like a typical angsty teenager. Soon you'll grow up and realise all what your parents have done for you, or maybe you never will and you'll live a failure of a life and blame it all on your parents or someone else.
EDIT: I mean I don't know about the rest of you but my mum was there to help me deal with and clean up a fair few of my own messes and I'd do the same for her.