Also, your use of truthbeams is super effective.Aeonknight said:She is still technically a pirate.
After all, she put aside her morality and principles for self serving greed like any other pirate.
/flameshield on
Also, your use of truthbeams is super effective.Aeonknight said:She is still technically a pirate.
After all, she put aside her morality and principles for self serving greed like any other pirate.
/flameshield on
...Do you have first-hand experience with this?Andy Chalk said:you can have somebody killed for about a tenth of what Schramm got for her book, after all
People don't care that much in the first place, really. It's not so much people are hopping to the next big thing, it's just that people don't pay attention to this sort of thing at all.Legion said:I always wonder why in the age of instant information people think they can get away with such obvious hypocrisy. I think it is probably down to the human nature of people getting all worked up about something, and then forgetting it a week later to get worked up about something else. People can get away with it simply because people move onto the next big thing.
It's also kind of like trying to abolish murder laws because they fail to put away all murderers.GenGenners said:It's like a doctor cutting off your leg to stop your foot hurting because, well, at least your foot won't hurt anymore, right?
they tried. the response was even worse coypright laws and ACTA/SOPA ectGenGenners said:Then they should attack the abusers of copyright, or facilitate the advancement of correct copyright usage, not try to kill the idea of copyright itself. It's like a doctor cutting off your leg to stop your foot hurting because, well, at least your foot won't hurt anymore, right?Strazdas said:obviuosly more than you. Copyright is not bad. The way copyright has been used in the world for the last, say, 30 years is a spawn of evil and must be destroyed at all costs.GenGenners said:Let me get this straight......
This Pirate Party wants to not just allow, but ENCOURAGE everyone to copy anything they want. They think IP's are horrible and copyright is an evil worthy of breaking the tinfoil hats out for?
Did I fall into a parallel anti-Earth or something? Do they even know why these things exist in the first place? Do they even know how the world works????
I can think of 100,000 reasons why.McMullen said:Not sure why she did what she did.
maybe she needed a publisher and this was the only way to do it?ThatDarnCoyote said:I can think of 100,000 reasons why.McMullen said:Not sure why she did what she did.
All the complaints that blame the publisher miss an important point. Namely, that a prominent member of a political organization that almost exclusively focuses on copyright issues is now pretending (after cashing the fat check) that she was too stupid to understand the nature of the fairly standard copyright contract she was signing.
She'd probably be better off admitting to hypocrisy.
I'm pretty sure ACTA and SOPA just came from politicians and legal representatives being stupid dicks.Strazdas said:they tried. the response was even worse coypright laws and ACTA/SOPA ectGenGenners said:Then they should attack the abusers of copyright, or facilitate the advancement of correct copyright usage, not try to kill the idea of copyright itself. It's like a doctor cutting off your leg to stop your foot hurting because, well, at least your foot won't hurt anymore, right?Strazdas said:obviuosly more than you. Copyright is not bad. The way copyright has been used in the world for the last, say, 30 years is a spawn of evil and must be destroyed at all costs.GenGenners said:Let me get this straight......
This Pirate Party wants to not just allow, but ENCOURAGE everyone to copy anything they want. They think IP's are horrible and copyright is an evil worthy of breaking the tinfoil hats out for?
Did I fall into a parallel anti-Earth or something? Do they even know why these things exist in the first place? Do they even know how the world works????
ACTA and SOPA was presented and pushed by the lobbyst group of music labels and tv studios.GenGenners said:I'm pretty sure ACTA and SOPA just came from politicians and legal representatives being stupid dicks.Strazdas said:they tried. the response was even worse coypright laws and ACTA/SOPA ectGenGenners said:Then they should attack the abusers of copyright, or facilitate the advancement of correct copyright usage, not try to kill the idea of copyright itself. It's like a doctor cutting off your leg to stop your foot hurting because, well, at least your foot won't hurt anymore, right?Strazdas said:obviuosly more than you. Copyright is not bad. The way copyright has been used in the world for the last, say, 30 years is a spawn of evil and must be destroyed at all costs.GenGenners said:Let me get this straight......
This Pirate Party wants to not just allow, but ENCOURAGE everyone to copy anything they want. They think IP's are horrible and copyright is an evil worthy of breaking the tinfoil hats out for?
Did I fall into a parallel anti-Earth or something? Do they even know why these things exist in the first place? Do they even know how the world works????
Egh, whoever they were, they were still idiots and/or dicks.Strazdas said:ACTA and SOPA was presented and pushed by the lobbyst group of music labels and tv studios.GenGenners said:I'm pretty sure ACTA and SOPA just came from politicians and legal representatives being stupid dicks.Strazdas said:they tried. the response was even worse coypright laws and ACTA/SOPA ectGenGenners said:Then they should attack the abusers of copyright, or facilitate the advancement of correct copyright usage, not try to kill the idea of copyright itself. It's like a doctor cutting off your leg to stop your foot hurting because, well, at least your foot won't hurt anymore, right?Strazdas said:obviuosly more than you. Copyright is not bad. The way copyright has been used in the world for the last, say, 30 years is a spawn of evil and must be destroyed at all costs.GenGenners said:Let me get this straight......
This Pirate Party wants to not just allow, but ENCOURAGE everyone to copy anything they want. They think IP's are horrible and copyright is an evil worthy of breaking the tinfoil hats out for?
Did I fall into a parallel anti-Earth or something? Do they even know why these things exist in the first place? Do they even know how the world works????
So, people who say copy nothing are idiots.GenGenners said:Egh, whoever they were, they were still idiots and/or dicks.Strazdas said:ACTA and SOPA was presented and pushed by the lobbyst group of music labels and tv studios.GenGenners said:I'm pretty sure ACTA and SOPA just came from politicians and legal representatives being stupid dicks.
I wasn't aware we were arguing. I thought you were just correcting me. When did we start arguing?Strazdas said:So, people who say copy nothing are idiots.GenGenners said:Egh, whoever they were, they were still idiots and/or dicks.Strazdas said:ACTA and SOPA was presented and pushed by the lobbyst group of music labels and tv studios.GenGenners said:I'm pretty sure ACTA and SOPA just came from politicians and legal representatives being stupid dicks.
people who say copy everything are idiots.
**people who say copy some things and not others.... dont exist according to you.**
means, everyone is an idiot. good job.
She isn't fighting piracy, her publisher is. People like to exaggerate the sensationalism of claims made by escapist news articles, but it's a pretty accurate criticism this time: What the article title is claiming never actually happened. Theres humor here, but not in hypocrisy.The Jakeinator said:Something seems to be missing from this.
I can't put my finger on it, but I feel like I'm not getting the whole story here.
Im sorry if i come too heavy handed from the last comment. had a bad day. didnt mean to attack you. Our views are somewhat similar, but you are more towards "current laws are fine" section and there the argument begins.GenGenners said:I wasn't aware we were arguing. I thought you were just correcting me. When did we start arguing?Strazdas said:So, people who say copy nothing are idiots.GenGenners said:Egh, whoever they were, they were still idiots and/or dicks.Strazdas said:ACTA and SOPA was presented and pushed by the lobbyst group of music labels and tv studios.GenGenners said:I'm pretty sure ACTA and SOPA just came from politicians and legal representatives being stupid dicks.
people who say copy everything are idiots.
**people who say copy some things and not others.... dont exist according to you.**
means, everyone is an idiot. good job.
Regardless, I was under the impression that we all universally didn't like ACTA and SOPA, so why do you take offence when I call them stupid? They were stupid.
Also, at the part I've highlighted with asterisks, I've never mentioned that, so I have no idea where you pulled that point from.
To be honest, I think the law has done all it can do by this point. Anymore changes in law are a waste of resources.Strazdas said:Im sorry if i come too heavy handed from the last comment. had a bad day. didnt mean to attack you. Our views are somewhat similar, but you are more towards "current laws are fine" section and there the argument begins.GenGenners said:I wasn't aware we were arguing. I thought you were just correcting me. When did we start arguing?Strazdas said:So, people who say copy nothing are idiots.GenGenners said:Egh, whoever they were, they were still idiots and/or dicks.Strazdas said:ACTA and SOPA was presented and pushed by the lobbyst group of music labels and tv studios.GenGenners said:I'm pretty sure ACTA and SOPA just came from politicians and legal representatives being stupid dicks.
people who say copy everything are idiots.
**people who say copy some things and not others.... dont exist according to you.**
means, everyone is an idiot. good job.
Regardless, I was under the impression that we all universally didn't like ACTA and SOPA, so why do you take offence when I call them stupid? They were stupid.
Also, at the part I've highlighted with asterisks, I've never mentioned that, so I have no idea where you pulled that point from.
Save me a slice will you?...njsykora said:I think I'll put some of this irony in the fridge for later, it's so damn delicious I can't quite manage all of it right now.
GenGenners said:Law hasnt done all it can. Law has done what some lobbysts want. If you follow the recent copyright law changes, you see that it changed for the worst, while it can easily be made better by taking huge chunks of the old law and applying it now. In my opinion the best way however is to scrap the current copyright law and create a new, rational one. would be easier than to fix everything i think.Strazdas said:To be honest, I think the law has done all it can do by this point. Anymore changes in law are a waste of resources.GenGenners said:Im sorry if i come too heavy handed from the last comment. had a bad day. didnt mean to attack you. Our views are somewhat similar, but you are more towards "current laws are fine" section and there the argument begins.Strazdas said:I wasn't aware we were arguing. I thought you were just correcting me. When did we start arguing?
Regardless, I was under the impression that we all universally didn't like ACTA and SOPA, so why do you take offence when I call them stupid? They were stupid.
Also, at the part I've highlighted with asterisks, I've never mentioned that, so I have no idea where you pulled that point from.
We've reached the point now where it's the people that need to change. You know, greedy corporations and the like. Unfortunately people, especially the rich people in charge, will never change.
We need a company like Valve to go multi-industry. That would fix all our problems xD
People are changing and getting restless. the anonymous movement that made EU say no to sopa and the like is proof if anything. People are all greedy, but the sooner they realize that by working together they can get more (not necessarily in monetary form, there are psychological egoism, like feeling good about helping people and the like). now of course the currently rich wont let this change be done easily, but if we managed to break feudalism we should break lobbyism.
Valve is a good example of company that tries not to be evil. I have my quarrels with steam and dont use it, but i can see that valve really tries to make their costumers happy. and thats why it took over the market. Seeing the trends its not worth going bckwards from games to other media. Them usic industry is shrinking rapidly and games areadly beat it. the movie industry despite what the 300 million budget movies may say is also shrinking and all of this is to make space for game industry. when you can spend 60 dollars to watch 3 movies (6 hours entertainment) or buy a good game (600 hours entertainment) the trend is clear.
This.Krantos said:Warning. Title is Missleading.
She's not the one issuing the take down reports. Her publisher, whom she sold the copyrights to is.
Still a bit hypocritical, but not as much as the title implies.