Pirates Beat DSi Patch One Day After Release

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I'm not sure you should be posting a link to that video...
 

IndianaJonny

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Anybody else think that 2011 is turning out to be the year for pirates and renegades when you put events like this alongside all the Sony/GeoHot/Anonymous merry-making?
 

Ytinasni

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ionveau said:
Arachon said:
I just wish there was some way to run homebrew without enabling piracy at the same time.
Who cares? i blasting music on my custom DSI music player right now, So what if lets you pirate games my computer lets me pirate games BUT SO WHAT?

Honestly i hope your trolling.

Why, because he proposes an idealistic world where we can do what we want with our hardware without pirating software?
 

Foxi Qnet

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I have no idea why they're still trying. The DS framework has a fatal flaw due to it's header-recognizing system that simply cannot be removed. Whatever they'll do to the DSi firmware, the cart producers just have to change the header of their cart to another one and the problem is magically fixed.

It's a battle they cannot possibly win, the money they're spending on anti-piracy on the DSi should be pumped into the 3DS, otherwise it's just throwing it into the mud.
 

KeyMaster45

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And so continues the eternal arms race between pirates and software developers.

Frankly it sounds like lots of trouble to go about pirating games, not worth the time if you ask me. I think I'll keep paying for my games and not go the route of having to gut my console and perform a voodoo ritual to invoke the gods of haxorz to bypass a patch.
 

ZombieGenesis

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50% of European sales?
Half the people who own a DS wouldn't have the first CLUE how to handle firmware and homebrew. From what I hear, it's not exactly easy to find an R4 card online in the first place either.

I'd say it might effect perhaps... 10% of sales at a stretch. Still big numbers, yes, but massively more realistic than a proposed 50. That just reeks of excuse.
 

ionveau

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Arachon said:
ionveau said:
Who cares? i blasting music on my custom DSI music player right now, So what if lets you pirate games my computer lets me pirate games BUT SO WHAT?

Honestly i hope your trolling.
Trolling? The fact that homebrew games do allow the running of cracked games is great leverage for the manufacturers to prevent users from accessing a system that is rightfully theirs to tinker with. And since we all know corporations don't give two shits about consumer's rights, a "middle ground" is really the only way I can see an end to this cat and mouse game, without locking out homebrew users.

I hate to break it to you but they would NEVER allow their product to be homebrewable why you may ask? well you see they wont see any money out of it. if i can play pong on my DS why would i play Mario pong?

If i can play snake why would i buy mario snake?
If i can play RPG maker games why would i buy an RPG?

Trust me there is a reason why Iphones have there own istore for APPs
There is a reason why consoles disprove of home brew devlopers
That reason is because homebrew reduces actual game sales.
 

Akihiko

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Now they just need to get around region locking on the 3DS. I may actually buy a 3DS if that happens...

(Being european forces you to import)
 

CM156_v1legacy

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Nintendo, I hate pirates as much as you do. However, you are never going to be able to beat them, snort of a tactical nuclear strike.

Nothing makes pirates want to do something more than telling them they cannot.
 

Arachon

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ionveau said:
I hate to break it to you but they would NEVER allow their product to be homebrewable why you may ask? well you see they wont see any money out of it. if i can play pong on my DS why would i play Mario pong?

If i can play snake why would i buy mario snake?
If i can play RPG maker games why would i buy an RPG?

Trust me there is a reason why Iphones have there own istore for APPs
There is a reason why consoles disprove of home brew devlopers
That reason is because homebrew reduces actual game sales.
Yes, I am aware of this, I was merely dreaming.
 

Bob the frantic

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I think the pirates are actually taking less time to get past the updates.

Maybe Nintendo should focus on making people buy their games than stopping pirates. Might get the sales higher than these waste of time and bandwidth patches.
 

Bobbity

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I don't even know why they bother anymore. :p Maybe they should make the best of a bad situation and stop the anti-piracy, and work instead on making customers happy.

Then again, the 3DS seems rather impenetrable - for the moment. It's a pity that the work around is so easy; get a DSi. :S
 

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It's more about unlocking the platform then piracy, yet again companies believe users don't own the shit they paid for...
I understand Nintendo would love a locked down system and anyone going near it hasto throw money at them, but luckily the tyrannic regime of Nintendo can't be enforced yet.
 

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PhunkyPhazon said:
What DOES seem to wrok, at least temporarily, is when developers make sure pirates get gimped versions of the game. Rocksteady disabled Batman's glide ability in Arkham Asylum, Michael Jackson DS replaces the music with annoying instruments, and Earthbound completely and utterly fucked around with pirates. (First it gives more enemies, then it deletes your save right before you fight the final boss) These games are perfect examples on how to fight piracy, not firmware updates and DRM.
Except that the first was a bug that was passed off as DRM after a stealth patch that supposedly was only available to consumer slaves and not to pirates(which turned out to be the other way around) and crackfixes were available for all 3 off them within hours.

Also read up on Iron Lore and how they bankrupted themselves my making the "pirate as demo" crowd thinking their game was unplayable shit.