anthony87 said:
Well that was certainly....Youtube worthy. Really, could you not have taken my advice about removing the fanboy goggles in my first post? I mean, Psycho Mantis wasn't a "potent enemy", sure he was interesting and one of the most creative boss fights ever but once you know the trick it's piss easy to beat. A potent enemy would be a boss like The End, no matter how many times you face him it's always a challenge.
I'll agree with you on the overpoweredness though but you gotta realise that that's what Platinum does. They do crazy and they do it well. Of course with reference to the trailer we're more than likely looking at the first level, in which case it'd make sense to show off how much of a badass Raiden has become.
Now...answering "Yes" to my asking if you were a rep for a focus group? You're aware that was just me trying to say that you don't speak for everyone which is weird considering that it's around that point you start speaking for everyone again. I'm gonna let you in on a little piece of info. The concept of Raiden came about because Japanese fans of MGS didn't enjoy playing as a gruff soldier too much, so Hideo went about creating a character that'd be more aesthetically pleasing for a Japanese audience. Japan has a population of over 127 million people, sounds like a lot of Raiden fans to me.
Speaking of "fans". I'm not a Raiden fan, that's not to say I loathe him with the passion that you seem to but I've merely come to accept him as a character in the established universe.
All your little spoiler list thingy does is tell me that you'd make a shitty movie/game director as you have so sense of dramatic tension. Seriously when's the last time you saw a character in a piece of fiction pick the logical choice over the more visually exciting choice?
The answer? NEVER. It doesn't happen because it's not exciting to do the obvious, logical thing.
As for your last couple of points, they can all just be grouped in to "RAGE! RAGE! RAIDEN RUINED TEH METAL GEARS FOREVERZ!!!" fanboyism.
Also....NOBODY likes Jar Jar.
"The concept of Raiden came about because Japanese fans of MGS didn't enjoy playing as a gruff soldier too much, so Hideo went about creating a character that'd be more aesthetically pleasing for a Japanese audience."
You have insulted Japan's honour!
Solid Snake was and IS extremely popular both in and outside Japan.
A REAL Japanese advert that they got Snake (Big Boss) to shill for as he is more appealing. Raiden hasn't done any Japanese ads.
And if Hideo wanted to make a whiny, fancy, pussy-whipped, bitchy, weak, incompetent, useless AND irrelevant character like Raiden then he shouldn't have pulled a
bait and switch with MGS2! Also, there may be 127 million Japanese people but there are 6.873 BILLION people who are not Japanese. And the fact remains, more copies of Metal Gear Solid were sold OUTSIDE Japan than inside Japan. For both MGS1 and MGS2.
http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid
Even MGS2 with Raiden, as you slanderously allege something that any Japanese "love" so much, it failed to break 1 million units to spite 127 million population.
In FACT Metal Gear Solid 3 - where Raiden character was reneged to a minor truly bitchy role - sold BETTER in Japan them MGS2 did!
Raiden utterly destroyed confidence in the Metal gear brand. I stuck with MGS3 but when I recommended it to friends they'd make a joke about how they'd probably have their character replaised by a whiny ***** after the first hour, "no thank" they say. An example of how badly Raiden has affected the Brand. MGS1 sold 6 million units, MGS2 sold 7 million (with Raiden a secret) yet by MGS3 sold less than 4 million, an d much the same with MGS4.
I've merely come to accept him as a character in the established universe.
No Acceptance.
No Forgiveness.
No justice till Raiden has been retconned out of the Metal Gear saga forever!
Also could you stop calling Raiden a "badass" it is belittling of genuine badasses. Having plot contrivances stroke one's inflated ego is not badassery. He is only kicking ass in a bloody cyborg ninja exoskeleton and STILL he whines and needs encouragement.
His CHARACTER is the definition of LAME!
All your little spoiler list thingy does is tell me that you'd make a shitty movie/game director as you have so sense of dramatic tension.
Sorry, but you say I have poor concept of Dramatic tension when Raiden's sudden lightning power is THE MOST BLATANT DEUS EX MACHINA! Never mentioned before, never in any way set up. It's PURE contrivance. It also serves nothing for the story except to stroke that character's inflated ego. Snake collapsed for no reason other than for faux-heroics from Raiden. The entire scene could be cut and the story would be BETTER for it and actually make more sense.
Seriously when's the last time you saw a character in a piece of fiction pick the logical choice over the more visually exciting choice?
How is it even logical choice to STAB A SWORD THROUGH YOUR OWN CHEST! Or try to stop a 5000 ton ship WITH YOUR ARMS! That's not an error of judgement, that's not a mistake, that's not foolish. That is the type of thing a small child would suggest. Actually, it is morel ike contrivance.
It is not "visually exciting" to see characters act so stupid. What would be visually exciting would be a character running away from a gigantic ship as it crashes its way through a dock, narrowly avoiding a sudden death! What would be visually exciting is summoning the last of their strength and recalling and refining an established talent.
Not:
"ooh, this is such a tense fight scene, if Raiden gets stabbed he will lose his life and everythi- ... oh wait he just stabbed himself through the chest"
This is taking Style over Substance too far. It destroys ALL dramatic tension. The Aesthetics SERVE the substance, not the substance serving the aesthetics! Otherwise what have you got? It's like a good Music video to a bad song.
The people who like Raiden (which you claim doesn't include you) are usually the same who value Graphics over Gameplay. Special effects over character. Beauty over character.
Graphics, effects and beauty are only good for how they ENHANCE the substance.
With Raiden you are multiplying by Zero, you get nothing. Well actually, what you are left with is an intolerable prat who just Wont. Go. Away!
It is the tenth anniversary of a great betrayal I and so many Metal Gear fans suffered with MGS2. Video games are EXPENSIVE working part time after school, I sweated to afford Metal Gear Solid 2 and I got conned!
Also, you are right that nobody like Jar Jar Binks, but there are Jar Jar apologists. Just like there are Raiden apologists.
The only excuse for Raiden is if he goes away and stays away forever.
. 7) Introing into cutscenes smoothly from where you're standing in the game instead of just jumping to a place.
