Play of the Game
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It has 2000 health, their weapons do about 100 damage per direct hit. That's about 3 or four reloads to take the thing out alone. That's not laughing at it!Cowabungaa said:
The key word there was circumvent it, Pharah can jump over it and Junkrat can bounce his shots behind it.Headsprouter said:
Also another good counter is Mei, throw an ice wall between Reinhardt and his team and your team can easily focus fire him down even with the shield.
They can circumbent the shield is what he's saying. Fly above with Pharrah or drop pipes over the shield with Junkrat. Also to note, McCree can throw his stun pellet above the shield and stun Reinhardt as well.Headsprouter said:
As for Bastion? Bjorn is much more difficult to deal with than that stationary robot. This is a shooter and movement will always be super important. I'd also second that the commendations at the end of the match are much more a sign of who did the best instead of the POG.
Meh, this may have been the case in the open beta, but since the launch I've seen Junkrat, Thorbj, Reaper get PoTG more than Bastion. Granted half of the games I've played have been with friends as opposed to PUGs where I seem to be the only one who knows how to counter Bastion and everybody else just runs up to him and dies one by one.
Nah, IMO the king (or in this case queen) of salt goes to Mei. Her ice spray really pisses me off to no end. Hell even Meis on my team piss me off sometimes.
Soldier 76: I got em in my sights
*Ally Mei puts up ice wall in the doorway*
GODDAMMIT MEI!!!
Nah, IMO the king (or in this case queen) of salt goes to Mei. Her ice spray really pisses me off to no end. Hell even Meis on my team piss me off sometimes.
Soldier 76: I got em in my sights
*Ally Mei puts up ice wall in the doorway*
GODDAMMIT MEI!!!
No no, I meant that we literally circumvent it. Pharah is delightfully airborne, and a decent Junkrat simply arcs his grenades over the shield.Headsprouter said:
Luckily it works the other way as well; an enemy Mei blocking the line of sight of their Hanzo and/or Widow meaning the enemy Mei is actually helping us advance. It's great!Zetatrain said:
I'm pretty sure that already exists. Or are you talking about the stats for your allies and opponents?Smilomaniac said:
It goes both ways. While a single player can reset the overtime counter that player is most likely going to get slaughtered. This means the attackers will be at a disadvantage since they will be down a man.Smilomaniac said:
Unfortunately it doesn't change the fact that I just wasted my UltCowabungaa said:
Maybe I should just play as Hanzo more. At least I don't have worry about anything getting in the way of that Ult (unless a genji reflects the arrow back at me).
Kinda ironic given the relationship between salt and ice.aegix drakan said:This has happened to me more than once.
Sorry, that went over my head somehow.Cowabungaa said:
Pharah's definitely an answer to the shield. Flitting about as her makes her an answer to a lot of things, doesn't it? But she's a fragile birdie so it's no problem of mine. Great hero.
As for Junkrat circumventing the shield it all depends on the situation. So my answer to that is sure, if there's a wall to bounce bombs off, but I think in most cases all you'll be getting is minor splash damage for the most part.
You can refer to what I said above. TL;DR, Pharah, certainly, Junkrat, in theory...As for McCree, he's the only hero i've never played, but I've never seen one think to throw their stun over a shielding Rein. I'll have to try it out.BytByte said:
Totally with you on Torb, on high level gameplay, Bastions best used alongside sneaky positioning. I love Torb. Probably my favourite ult in the game, and it's fun armouring up the team and scoring headshots with the rivet gun.
I just wanted to say Mei's a pain in the bum and being outright frozen by her regular attack isn't fun. I know she can only do it at close range, but her reasonable health pool, means of escape/prevention of your escape and self heal make it all the more likely that she can pull it off. It's not like her long range attack isn't good either. One thing I know is that using Reinhardt's shield is easy to do well, playing Mei? I don't know. I don't think so, but I know I don't have fun fighting her.That Guy Ya Know said:
As for cutting off Rein from his team, I think it's a lot easier said than done. It's unlikely that he would be the exact distance from every ally to allow space for a wall to make him fully alone.
Overall, I think the least circumstantial answer to a Reinhardt is another Reinhardt. You're on equal terms teamwise because you both have shields to bolster your defences o, and chances are one Rein will charge the other, and while they scuffle everyone else can fight normally.
Ever manage to countersniper a widowmaker up on a perch with the rivet gun? And then the Widow backs up so the perch hides her? And you manage to kill her with a headshot by using the drop-off of the rivet gun to essentially "curve" the bullet downwards and over the perch and kill her when you can't even see her?Headsprouter said:
It's magical.
I don't think I've ever managed to do it and realised, but I sure have tried! I have more luck catching Tracer with it as she tries to flank or nailing Mercy in the head from far away. So fun.aegix drakan said:Ever manage to countersniper a widowmaker up on a perch with the rivet gun? And then the Widow backs up so the perch hides her? And you manage to kill her with a headshot by using the drop-off of the rivet gun to essentially "curve" the bullet downwards and over the perch and kill her when you can't even see her?Headsprouter said:
I'm a Bastion player, and I really don't see the need for a nerf, honestly. More skillful Bastion-ers (Bastioneers? Basteers?) than myself manage to secure team kills, but I'm the type who gets maybe one or two kills per life, seeing as I'm still trying to find the right joystick sensitivity levels for the game. Bastion strikes me as being more than fairly squishy, and his mode-changing animation is a huge open window for anyone with a good pair of eyes and decent reflexes. I've mostly died while going to and from my turret config, honestly.
What *is* OP, however, is when I see other Bastion players graft themselves to the heels of whoever happens to be playing as Reinhardt. I'm told the Beta version of Bastion had a personal shield, and that specific player pairing more or less recreates that unfair advantage.
Honestly, I don't really get the gripes. I guess I have to stick them in the same boat as disparaging comments regarding players who use Torbjorn as intended.
I mean, you're SUPPOSED to lay down turrets. What else is there to do as Overwatch's Faux Warcraft Dwarf; try and tank the enemy team all by your lonesome?
What *is* OP, however, is when I see other Bastion players graft themselves to the heels of whoever happens to be playing as Reinhardt. I'm told the Beta version of Bastion had a personal shield, and that specific player pairing more or less recreates that unfair advantage.
Honestly, I don't really get the gripes. I guess I have to stick them in the same boat as disparaging comments regarding players who use Torbjorn as intended.
I mean, you're SUPPOSED to lay down turrets. What else is there to do as Overwatch's Faux Warcraft Dwarf; try and tank the enemy team all by your lonesome?
You Non-Support people astound me.
"WE NEED A HEALER!"
*switches to Mercy, Rezzes 3 people at once, Heals 60 percent of the damage done*
End of the game comes by, and you give all the votes to the Pharah who had 21 eliminations. And not even the play of the Game.
"WE NEED A HEALER!"
*switches to Mercy, Rezzes 3 people at once, Heals 60 percent of the damage done*
End of the game comes by, and you give all the votes to the Pharah who had 21 eliminations. And not even the play of the Game.
learn to counter. at long range bastion does barely any damage, snipers can pick him off, or at least force to relocate. roadhog can just shut off his turret mode in closer quarters. Junkrat lols at any turret. that is just a few solo solutions. as a team you can do terrible things to even a well defended Bastion.Burnouts3s3 said:
I start to get where "git gud" is coming from.
I've managed to get Play of the Game quite a few times with D.Va. Just wait for the enemy team to group up and then drop a self destructing mech on their heads.I had a match where an enemy D.Va blocked the only doorway with one and wiped out four of us at once.
Bastion gets the hate because the RNG favors him for play of the game, but a better question is why use any tank except reinhart? Sure roadhog has chain and heal, which are good, but they aren't charge and shield. Also, why is EVERY mission a payload mission now? What happened to point capture?
Turret placement can make or break a defense game. I've had my team get thrashed more then once because Symmetra planted sentry turrets in the hardest to see and hardest to hit places.Nurb said:In my experience the team depends on clutch turret placement, but never votes for the builder post gameRJ 17 said: