PlayStation 3 Not Powerful Enough to Realize Gran Turismo Creator's Dream
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This guy needs a new dream. A perfect driving simulation can't use the dualshock controller and doesn't really depend on graphics. Any game that can't fit on the PS3 doesn't deserve the time and expense to be made...especially considering that the amount of graphical polish is negligible to the overall quality of the game.
Wow...This guy is amazingly obsessed with making this game as amazing as possible. Couldn't he just release the damn game and make the next one even better when he has the technology to do so.
Ha I bet sony sent him a big
After he released that statement. I mean blu ray is the best platform that i know of and the ps3 is one of the best systems at manipulating it. I don't wanna know how much a system would cost if it could push blu ray to its absolute maximum. Or how much the games would cost either.
After he released that statement. I mean blu ray is the best platform that i know of and the ps3 is one of the best systems at manipulating it. I don't wanna know how much a system would cost if it could push blu ray to its absolute maximum. Or how much the games would cost either.
Well said, Mr. Freeman. That made me chuckle quite a bit.thefreeman0001 said:
If you feel as if you can't take things far enough with your game, port it to PC and perfect it!
I might even turn that into a T-shirt...
and this plus the other statement of him saying he would never release an unfinished game ever again since his first game is really the sole reason why I will buy gran turismo games. yes, they are fantastic games, but when theres a developer that is such a perfectionist i feel like i have to do everything i can to support these kinds of developers. its why im such a softy for blizzard too. "when it's ready" is the MOST important aspect to making games, IMO. i DONT want to play a buggy piece of crap. I HATE BUGGY GAMES.
yahtzee even talks about it, how bugs and other annoyances can destroy immersion. thats why we play games in the first place right? for the immersion? and QUALITY? at least its why i play games...
and dont even get me started with bethesda... great games, but they always leave such a bitter taste in my mouth.
yahtzee even talks about it, how bugs and other annoyances can destroy immersion. thats why we play games in the first place right? for the immersion? and QUALITY? at least its why i play games...
and dont even get me started with bethesda... great games, but they always leave such a bitter taste in my mouth.
Working within constraints tends to be what creates our greatest inventions.WrongSprite said:
Though I for one would prefer (basically) limitless energy, so that we could do things that are currently hindered by greed and the problem of limited energy.
But that's an issue wholly outside the problem of Gran Turismo being the new Duke Nukem Forever.
It makes a huge difference. Judging the difference off of one developers poor judgement is kinda silly.kouriichi said:
I own both consoles (well actually all 3), the difference in what you could do with the PS3 compared to the 360 is quite impressive.
However that doesn't mean any company will do it because they are too busy trying to make the next Avatar on a video game console.
That's why the Wii is nearly my preferred of the 3, at least game designers on that are actually trying to make games, instead of interactive movies. It has a metric ton of terrible products, but within that mountain there are at least a dozen games that have kept me pleasantly entertained.
Versus the moderately large amount of games for the 360 of which I've got 4 titles I liked.
The PS3 is doing nicely these days moreso because it's a pretty great media center. But even that poor dude needs more good titles.
All of this of course being personal opinions, so I need not be educated by any random lover of any of them
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i wasn't referencing end of world stuff, i personally don't believe it will end. I was saying this, because i saw in another gaming news website, that around these years, the gaming industry wants to change consoles (with their toyotist ideology of having products that break after some time, and product "enhancements" every 5 to 10 years -_-').Coliumbos said:Something tells me console perfection isn't worth the end of the world, as Sony fanboys descend in their festive plumpness in anticipation of an XMAs release.Orcus_35 said:Is this a Clue for 2012 -> PS4... sadly.Logan Westbrook said:PlayStation 3 Not Powerful Enough to Realize Gran Turismo Creator's Dream
Gran Turismo 5 [http://www.amazon.com/Gran-Turismo-5-Playstation-3/dp/B002BSA1C6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1289239571&sr=8-1] is a clean and beautiful as it can be, says Polyphony Digital boss Kaz Yamauchi, but not clean and beautiful enough.
All Yamauchi wants to do is making the ultimate driving simulator. It's a pretty singular dream, but one he's yet to make a reality. The problem, he says, is that there's not a PlayStation powerful enough to handle the game he wants to make.
In an interview with Esquire UK, Yamauchi said that hardware inevitably constrained any software that was develop for it. He said that the PS was a bigger "vessel" than it's predecessors, but still wasn't big enough to do do everything that Yamauchi wanted. He added that Polyphony had made Gran Turismo 5 as "clean and beautiful as possible," but added that there is plenty more he would have included if he could.
It does have to be said that Yamauchi is something of a perfectionist. GT5 has suffered multiple delays while Polyphony tweaked and tuned it, and Yamauchi recently "begged forgiveness [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/104523-Gran-Turismo-5-Creator-Begs-Forgiveness-Over-Frame-Rate-Issues]," because the game would occasionally drop below 60fps - at a resolution of 1080p, no less - if there was a lot happening on screen. It's hard to shake the feeling that if you took away the hardware limitations of the PlayStation platform, Yamauchi would get so wrapped up in his perfect game, that he'd never actually release anything ever again.
Gran Turismo 5 doesn't have a release date yet, although Sony claims it will be out before the end of the year.
Source: CVG [http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=274146]
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I get what he's saying, a to a point I agree with him. Good graphics and weather/damage effects are great and all, but when they get in the way of gameplay, you have a problem here.fKd said:
There's no fun in playing a laggy game, I'm sure we can all agree on that, and having low FPS in a game that pretty much demands quick reflexes and punishes mistakes is a big deal indeed.
OT: Come on man, get real. Graphics can't carry a game, if anything, good gameplay more often than not makes up for mediocre graphics. Look at Counter Strike 1.6, WoW, and a plethora of mods for UT2004 and Half Life 1. All bustling, some busier than AAA titles with amazing graphics, all because they have engaging gameplay.
Nobody has ever said that the game was going to be laggy. They said that the framerate will drop below 60fps. It has NEVER BEEN SAID BY HOW MUCH. He's a perfectionist, so I'm assuming that a drop to 57fps is unacceptable for him, and a drop to 57 would be completely unnoticeable by the human eye. If we're dropping from 60 to 25, it's a different story.SlainPwner666 said:
I don't know what to say other than they guy is just crazy obsessed. Sounds like he will never be happy with what he can make.
If he really wants people to experience realism of racing cars, he should just build a racing park/camp where visitors stay for a few weeks to learn how to be race car drivers and then there is a big end of camp race.
He's not going to get anymore real than real life.
The problem would be how expensive it would be to have a personal holodeck. Probably a few million dollars, once they go public and mainstream.
If he really wants people to experience realism of racing cars, he should just build a racing park/camp where visitors stay for a few weeks to learn how to be race car drivers and then there is a big end of camp race.
He's not going to get anymore real than real life.
I want the companies to stop waring, come together , and start planning/working on holodecks. It's the one reason I regret not being able to live longer than most likely the next 50 or so years, and be youthful and energetic then. Because, it probably won't be until then that we will be somewhere close to holodeck technology. A holodeck would be the ultimate gaming and recreation platform, any better and we would just have to experience things in real life.TimeLord said:
The problem would be how expensive it would be to have a personal holodeck. Probably a few million dollars, once they go public and mainstream.
I honestly don't think there'll ever be a widely accessible machine which enough power to realise his dream. This man only wants perfection. If there was a machine, he'd only take even longer anyway, let's just hope he gets a few more Gran Turismos out before the PS4 comes out, else we won't see GT6 until 2020 at the earliest.
