PlayStation 4 Sells a Million Units in 24 Hours

[loa]

So many people just don't care if you keep telling them that getting a console at launch isn't worth it ever, especially without backwards compatibility.
Congrats, you solidified the position that it isn't needed and "really backwards".
Now enjoy your gameless black box you paid hundreds for with all its infancy bugs and kinks.

 

[NortherWolf]

Congratulations Sony! I hope things only get better from here . Likewise, I hope the Xbox One does just as well; a one-sided competition isn't very healthy, nor is it entertaining.

Why would you wish that the company who decided to fuck over the player and ram stupid, non-wanted stuff up the player's ass instead of making a good console to have it's console do well?
Honestly? Why not Nintendo? or Valve?
Why Microsoft and Xbone? I rather see the Xbox burn and fail and a new competitor enter the stage than the jackasses at Microsoft getting a free pass because people are so focused on "Must have...Multiple consoles...Makes stuff better! Magic!"

 

[loa]

It must be tearing at your conscience that at least one million people don't share your feelings. It's okay to vent, let it all out; maybe if you scream enough next time they'll be more willing to listen.

This isn't about "feelings" this is thinking rationally for 5 minutes before making a purchase.
Stuff like season passes exist solely because most people just don't care and will buy anything and that kind of behavior never spawns anything good and ultimately affects us all.

 

[walrusaurus]

I'm not up to snuff on my controversial gaming news so forgive any ignorance but what's the big deal with lack of mp3 support? Isn't mp3 music, so why not just go on YouTube or itunes or any number of alternative methods of playing music? Did that many people listen to music through the ps3?

On topic. Well done to Sony and congrats to all of you lucky mothers who live in NA, this English guy is certainly jelly.

I know the games are a bit lack luster but I still can't wait to get my grubby mits on it. Seems the game to play is resogun, personally I think it looks dull but I'm not a score attack kind of guy.

Cause its something for people (read: microsoft apoligizers) to ***** about. Sony has gotten virtually no negative press with the PS4, so theres not much for the competition to latch onto. MP3 playback is probably the single least consequential feature possible. There are literally 7 devices within 20 feet of my tv right now that can play mp3s. Even if it had the functionality i can confidently say i would never use it. Does the 360 do MP3 playback? I honestly don't know i've had it for 6 years and never tried.

 

[Saltyk]

Data on console sales indicate that it should sell better in North America than it will in other places. Meanwhile, according to previous sales data, the PS4 should sell very strongly in Europe. So, seeing those numbers will also be interesting.

you got a bit of a contradiction gonig on here.
It will sell better elsewhere. Microsoft traditionally holds US superiority while Sony - the rest of the world. Now, based on preorders Sony should even take US this time.

Maybe I wasn't entirely clear.

I was saying exactly what you're saying. That the 360 sold much better in the US than the PS3, while the PS3 sold much better everywhere else. With that in mind, I think it will be very interesting to see what the Xbox One sales look like next week. If they don't break one million in North America, that will be very bad news for the console, and the last time I saw any actual numbers for it did indicate that the PS4 would sell better than the Xbox One.

Also, seeing the European sales figures for the PS4, which sold better in Europe and everywhere else, should also be very interesting. Based solely on previous sales of the PS3, they could sell one million consoles in 24 hours there, too.

Mind you, Xbox North American superiority is only a 360 trait. The original did not dominate compared to the PS2. One could argue that it was an anomaly depending on how Xbox One sales go.

All in all, I am very interested to see how the first skirmish of the new console war goes.

 

[omega 616]

Please tell me how does one goto youtube without internet. then again, what is this silly fashion of listening musicthough youtube anyway, youtube is for videos not music.

Simple, don't use the Internet. Get an mp3 player, can afford a ps4 but not an mp3, which can cost as little as £10.

How about youtube can deliver just about any song, with good sound quality for free and in a lot of cases with the music video, in case you want that as well. Why, what do you do on YouTube? Cat and fail videos?

 

[Strazdas]

Infamous, and Sly Cooper (please let there be another one!) comes to mind.

Infamouse title is already in the works, and its not like it was ever underlooked.

a product that's bound to have hardware issues (PS1, PS2 and PS3 all had them and from the sounds of things PS4 is no different).

Because other products didnt have hardware issues. oh, wait, they had, more of them.

I never said other consoles didn't have them, I'm saying launch hardware often has issues and early adopters have to deal with them. You completely missed the point of my post.

Yet you signed out PS line as having launch trouble when in reality it is line that had least trouble.

One million units to people who will be disappointed with the games for about a year. At least until there's a few games released only for the nex gen systems and, y'know actually worthy of being nex-gen...
I'm a cynic on some things, and console launches are definitely on the list.

There is this game called Watch Dogs....

So many people just don't care if you keep telling them that getting a console at launch isn't worth it ever, especially without backwards compatibility.
Congrats, you solidified the position that it isn't needed and "really backwards".

If you want backward compactability you buy PC. You buy consoles for many different reasons. Consoles never had good backward compactability. Even touted nintedo backward compactability has issues.

There are literally 7 devices within 20 feet of my tv right now that can play mp3s.

Well im glad your rich, meanwhile in the real world....

Maybe I wasn't entirely clear.

I was saying exactly what you're saying. That the 360 sold much better in the US than the PS3, while the PS3 sold much better everywhere else. With that in mind, I think it will be very interesting to see what the Xbox One sales look like next week. If they don't break one million in North America, that will be very bad news for the console, and the last time I saw any actual numbers for it did indicate that the PS4 would sell better than the Xbox One.

Also, seeing the European sales figures for the PS4, which sold better in Europe and everywhere else, should also be very interesting. Based solely on previous sales of the PS3, they could sell one million consoles in 24 hours there, too.

Mind you, Xbox North American superiority is only a 360 trait. The original did not dominate compared to the PS2. One could argue that it was an anomaly depending on how Xbox One sales go.

All in all, I am very interested to see how the first skirmish of the new console war goes.

I understand what you wanted to say, its jsut that you wworded it so one sentence contradicts the one coming before. Indeed next week will be very interesting to watch.
Compared to PS2 noone dominated, because PS2 was very strong console. It is however quite unfair to compare it to PS2 as its "one of a kind" console, at least so far.

Simple, don't use the Internet. Get an mp3 player, can afford a ps4 but not an mp3, which can cost as little as £10.

How about youtube can deliver just about any song, with good sound quality for free and in a lot of cases with the music video, in case you want that as well. Why, what do you do on YouTube? Cat and fail videos?

I cant, it wants me to update on day 1. (obviuosly, that was a joke). Yes, you can get a cheap MP3 player and listen to sound which wouldnt be made worse even if you put a bucket on your head. Most people have their best stereo systems connected to thier TVs. Guess what else they got connected to TVs?
Admitedly my use of Youtube is limited (as 90% of it is pure poop), i use it for two things: videos similar to what is posted on escapist and Let's plays.

 

[SSJBlastoise]

Honestly, I hope this leads to some overlooked franchises getting much deserved love.

Infamous, and Sly Cooper (please let there be another one!) comes to mind.

Also, Sony does seem to risk the most for sake of creativity.

Umm what? How are they overlooked?

Infamous Second Son was announced for next year not long after the PS4 was revealed and Sly Cooper Thieves in Time was released this year.

Seems like they are getting some love.

 

[munx13]

a product that's bound to have hardware issues (PS1, PS2 and PS3 all had them and from the sounds of things PS4 is no different).

Because other products didnt have hardware issues. oh, wait, they had, more of them.

I never said other consoles didn't have them, I'm saying launch hardware often has issues and early adopters have to deal with them. You completely missed the point of my post.

Yet you signed out PS line as having launch trouble when in reality it is line that had least trouble.

I used Playstation as an example because we are talking about the PS4 here. Yes, it didn't have nowhere NEAR the problems Xbox had, but all 3 consoles had them - Early PS1's suffered from video skipping and having trouble reading discs (people actually had to hold them upside-down), early PS2's had really bad quality DVD drives which would break easily, the yellow light of death happens mostly on early PS3's.

It's nowhere near RRoD levels, but these things still happened and mostly to early hardware.

 

[Battenberg]

On the other hand there have been serious issues [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.834219-Playstation-4-unhappy-costumers] with a lot of consoles not working

Yes, 0.4% is a lot of consoles not working. Not to mention that soem failures was expected and was true for every launch for consoles.

There's no evidence that 0.4% is an accurate figure other than Sony telling us it is (since they, like most big names in the gaming business, intentionally keep their data secret/ hidden from the public). Perhaps it is only that many and there will be some official proof in the future however I doubt that is the case and I am even more doubtful we will ever know for sure one way or another. .4% is about 4000 consoles based on the sales figures Sony have released so far. If you go on Amazon.com there are 600+ reviews alone where customers claim their PS4 was D.O.A, just on the product page for the console alone (i.e. not including bundles). On a quick skim through these reviews most of them seemed to be verified purchases although even if 100 or even 200 are fake/ not from customers that's still going to be 10% of the total number of faulty consoles according to Sony. That doesn't include the people who didn't write reviews on Amazon, the people who had more than one faulty console, the people buying bundles, or the people who bought elsewhere.

I'm not saying the number of faulty consoles is 25% (i.e. the proportion of negative reviews on Amazon) but I do think Sony have manipulated the figures in some way to get to 0.4% because they obviously wouldn't want to advertise if there was, for example, a 5 or 10% chance your PS4 will immediately break down.

It's also worth noting that quite a few of the people who have these issues have reported their customer service to be lacking, with long queues (as there isn't a seperate helpline for B.L.O.D. issues), patronising and apparently occasionally rude reps, and a subsequent long wait to find out what happens with their console after they return it. If it really is 0.4% of consoles you'd think Sony would be able to send out new consoles to affected customers immediately instead of taking them back and trying to fix them first, at the cost of the customer's time without any form of compensation. Regardless of what the failure rate is for a product there needs to be a quick and efficient mechanism or system in place to ensure affected customers aren't left without the product or their money for long periods of time.

EDIT: Guess what, yet another serious issue with the launch PS4: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/129729-Reports-of-PS4-Red-Line-of-Death-Appear-Online

 

[mysecondlife]

Honestly, I hope this leads to some overlooked franchises getting much deserved love.

Infamous, and Sly Cooper (please let there be another one!) comes to mind.

Also, Sony does seem to risk the most for sake of creativity.

Umm what? How are they overlooked?

Infamous Second Son was announced for next year not long after the PS4 was revealed and Sly Cooper Thieves in Time was released this year.

Seems like they are getting some love.

Infamous, and Sly Cooper (please let there be another one!) comes to mind.

Infamouse title is already in the works, and its not like it was ever underlooked.

I meant overlooked by consumers. I get the impression they could have done better sales-wise, especially Sly Cooper.

 

[Erttheking]

So many people just don't care if you keep telling them that getting a console at launch isn't worth it ever, especially without backwards compatibility.
Congrats, you solidified the position that it isn't needed and "really backwards".
Now enjoy your gameless black box you paid hundreds for with all its infancy bugs and kinks.

You know, some people don't care about B/C. You don't need to bash people just because they made a purchase you don't agree with. Same with season passes.

 

[thepyrethatburns]

Congratulations Sony! I hope things only get better from here . Likewise, I hope the Xbox One does just as well; a one-sided competition isn't very healthy, nor is it entertaining.

Why would you wish that the company who decided to fuck over the player and ram stupid, non-wanted stuff up the player's ass instead of making a good console to have it's console do well?
Honestly? Why not Nintendo? or Valve?
Why Microsoft and Xbone? I rather see the Xbox burn and fail and a new competitor enter the stage than the jackasses at Microsoft getting a free pass because people are so focused on "Must have...Multiple consoles...Makes stuff better! Magic!"

1) Were you even paying attention during the last generation? By your logic, you should be hoping that the PS4 fails for what Sony pulled during the PS3 era.

2) You are presuming that a new competitor WILL enter the field. Valve is the closest one to actually entering the console market with a competitive product and, if you take away the 24-hour check-in, their service pretty much is what the XBone was offering. I realize that it won't really matter because, by the end of this console generation, console games (with the possible exception of the really big games like Halo/God Of War) will be download-only. However, stating that you want the XBone to fail just so you can replace it with Valve's version of a download-only console is counter-productive.

 

[weirdee]

While that is impressive, I'm a little disappointed that so many people were so eager to rush out and buy the thing despite all the news about all the stuff the thing WON'T do. In fact I believe the news about all the stuff it won't do outweighed the news about stuff it will do.

Why be disappointed? Because we are stupid and go out and buy it early, that means games will be made for it, so when you actually come around to buying it, there will be good things to play. People like myself who bum rush it to grab the console day one make the console relevant, meaning it will get games in the future.

yeah, this promise hasn't always panned out, or if it will, people seem to be awfully selectively ignorant about it considering past events, and present perceptions

that being said, it is also wrong to focus entirely on what it can't do (because we all can't do a lot of things), since your decision is going to be based on what it can do anyway, or at least, I'd hope so

what would disappoint me the most is if people buy into hype or lies in either direction, and perpetuate the problem that they were trying to avoid

 

[Strazdas]

There's no evidence that 0.4% is an accurate figure other than Sony telling us it is

And yet 0.4% is the ONLY number we have. becuase few posts on the internet is not good statistics you know.

.4% is about 4000 consoles based on the sales figures Sony have released so far. If you go on Amazon.com there are 600+ reviews alone where customers claim their PS4 was D.O.A, just on the product page for the console alone (i.e. not including bundles). On a quick skim through these reviews most of them seemed to be verified purchases although even if 100 or even 200 are fake/ not from customers that's still going to be 10% of the total number of faulty consoles according to Sony. That doesn't include the people who didn't write reviews on Amazon, the people who had more than one faulty console, the people buying bundles, or the people who bought elsewhere.

600 of 1 million is less than 0.4%.
Amazon sold half of a million consoles, it makes sense it will recieve many reviews.
In electronics, anything bellow 5% is considered great success. This is simply the state of electronic industry. SO even if we have 5% failure rate (50.000 broken consoles on day 1) it would still be very low failure rates in comparison. It is unreasonable to expect that all consoles will work and noone ever did.
Obviously, people with broken consoles will be loud while peopel with working ones will be too busy playing them.

I'm not saying the number of faulty consoles is 25% (i.e. the proportion of negative reviews on Amazon) but I do think Sony have manipulated the figures in some way to get to 0.4% because they obviously wouldn't want to advertise if there was, for example, a 5 or 10% chance your PS4 will immediately break down.

0.4% is the number of consoles that failed from the early acess gifts in taco game (or something like that, i dont actually carea bout taco stuff). No other number is known and obviuosly the actual number will be higher. Though if they had failure rate as low as 5% of course its worth advertising - its ONLY 5%

It's also worth noting that quite a few of the people who have these issues have reported their customer service to be lacking, with long queues (as there isn't a seperate helpline for B.L.O.D. issues), patronising and apparently occasionally rude reps, and a subsequent long wait to find out what happens with their console after they return it. If it really is 0.4% of consoles you'd think Sony would be able to send out new consoles to affected customers immediately instead of taking them back and trying to fix them first, at the cost of the customer's time without any form of compensation. Regardless of what the failure rate is for a product there needs to be a quick and efficient mechanism or system in place to ensure affected customers aren't left without the product or their money for long periods of time.

I agree that bad costumer service is bad, though you have to understand the employees, whne you got costumer number 154 call in with exact same problem who has done none of the troubleshooting they posted you get grumpy.
No, you would nto think sony would be able to send out replacements - this is because you would think sony actually sold all their stock and have none to send out. Also, it is much faster to fix it yourself than do shipping for 2 weeks (not to mention cheaper).
The mechanism of failure prevention is the same as for every other piece of electronics out there - the warranty process. consoles aren't special and dont receive any special "fast fix".
Also the consoles have not been out for long enough to anyone claim they were trying to fix it for long time. couple days is not a long time.

I meant overlooked by consumers. I get the impression they could have done better sales-wise, especially Sly Cooper.

BUt thats really up to consumers. If they like it they like it if they dont - they wont.

2) You are presuming that a new competitor WILL enter the field. Valve is the closest one to actually entering the console market with a competitive product and, if you take away the 24-hour check-in, their service pretty much is what the XBone was offering. I realize that it won't really matter because, by the end of this console generation, console games (with the possible exception of the really big games like Halo/God Of War) will be download-only. However, stating that you want the XBone to fail just so you can replace it with Valve's version of a download-only console is counter-productive.

There are two posibilities:
1. A good company that treats thier costumers right become a monopoly. In this case, costumers win from being treated right, costuemrs win from unified platform and costumers and company win overall. This is the best solution.
2. A bad company that treats their costumers wrong become a monopoly. In this case there is much dissapointmetn fro ma costumers and a ripe place for a competitore to energe. competitor WILL emerge, because it will be easy money for him. People will buy his production if only not to buy from the "Evil" company.

Repalcing Xbone with Valve is situation number 2.

 

[mysecondlife]

There's no evidence that 0.4% is an accurate figure other than Sony telling us it is

And yet 0.4% is the ONLY number we have. becuase few posts on the internet is not good statistics you know.

.4% is about 4000 consoles based on the sales figures Sony have released so far. If you go on Amazon.com there are 600+ reviews alone where customers claim their PS4 was D.O.A, just on the product page for the console alone (i.e. not including bundles). On a quick skim through these reviews most of them seemed to be verified purchases although even if 100 or even 200 are fake/ not from customers that's still going to be 10% of the total number of faulty consoles according to Sony. That doesn't include the people who didn't write reviews on Amazon, the people who had more than one faulty console, the people buying bundles, or the people who bought elsewhere.

600 of 1 million is less than 0.4%.
Amazon sold half of a million consoles, it makes sense it will recieve many reviews.
In electronics, anything bellow 5% is considered great success. This is simply the state of electronic industry. SO even if we have 5% failure rate (50.000 broken consoles on day 1) it would still be very low failure rates in comparison. It is unreasonable to expect that all consoles will work and noone ever did.
Obviously, people with broken consoles will be loud while peopel with working ones will be too busy playing them.

I'm not saying the number of faulty consoles is 25% (i.e. the proportion of negative reviews on Amazon) but I do think Sony have manipulated the figures in some way to get to 0.4% because they obviously wouldn't want to advertise if there was, for example, a 5 or 10% chance your PS4 will immediately break down.

0.4% is the number of consoles that failed from the early acess gifts in taco game (or something like that, i dont actually carea bout taco stuff). No other number is known and obviuosly the actual number will be higher. Though if they had failure rate as low as 5% of course its worth advertising - its ONLY 5%

It's also worth noting that quite a few of the people who have these issues have reported their customer service to be lacking, with long queues (as there isn't a seperate helpline for B.L.O.D. issues), patronising and apparently occasionally rude reps, and a subsequent long wait to find out what happens with their console after they return it. If it really is 0.4% of consoles you'd think Sony would be able to send out new consoles to affected customers immediately instead of taking them back and trying to fix them first, at the cost of the customer's time without any form of compensation. Regardless of what the failure rate is for a product there needs to be a quick and efficient mechanism or system in place to ensure affected customers aren't left without the product or their money for long periods of time.

I agree that bad costumer service is bad, though you have to understand the employees, whne you got costumer number 154 call in with exact same problem who has done none of the troubleshooting they posted you get grumpy.
No, you would nto think sony would be able to send out replacements - this is because you would think sony actually sold all their stock and have none to send out. Also, it is much faster to fix it yourself than do shipping for 2 weeks (not to mention cheaper).
The mechanism of failure prevention is the same as for every other piece of electronics out there - the warranty process. consoles aren't special and dont receive any special "fast fix".
Also the consoles have not been out for long enough to anyone claim they were trying to fix it for long time. couple days is not a long time.

I meant overlooked by consumers. I get the impression they could have done better sales-wise, especially Sly Cooper.

BUt thats really up to consumers. If they like it they like it if they dont - they wont.

2) You are presuming that a new competitor WILL enter the field. Valve is the closest one to actually entering the console market with a competitive product and, if you take away the 24-hour check-in, their service pretty much is what the XBone was offering. I realize that it won't really matter because, by the end of this console generation, console games (with the possible exception of the really big games like Halo/God Of War) will be download-only. However, stating that you want the XBone to fail just so you can replace it with Valve's version of a download-only console is counter-productive.

There are two posibilities:
1. A good company that treats thier costumers right become a monopoly. In this case, costumers win from being treated right, costuemrs win from unified platform and costumers and company win overall. This is the best solution.
2. A bad company that treats their costumers wrong become a monopoly. In this case there is much dissapointmetn fro ma costumers and a ripe place for a competitore to energe. competitor WILL emerge, because it will be easy money for him. People will buy his production if only not to buy from the "Evil" company.

Repalcing Xbone with Valve is situation number 2.

True. But Sony could have marketed it better.