Please Sign This Petition, Racism/Sexism Isn't Okay If Its Against Straight White Men

[SonOfVoorhees]

That woman is an idiot. Of course minorities can be racist and sexist. It has nothing to do with privilege.

Thing is if that sign read "No black people," "No gays" or "No woman" then there would be up roar and that person would be punished for it. An rightly so. Woman can be sexist and minorities can be raced towards white people - just its treated as a joke. When a sexist man or a racist white person is seen as evil.

 

[Therumancer]

Question: What does a "Welfare & Diversity Officer" do for this university? I'm guessing its part of some sort of student group or some sort of equivalant to a dorm advisor. The article doesn't really explain. The petition doesn't make it clear at all. I mean, yeah, she said bad stuff, but its not really clear who it is that is saying it. Like, if I just told you "somebody from my school said 'queers should be put on an island and nuked'" you'd think thats a distasteful comment. However, most people would see a world of difference between a student saying that and the school administrator saying that. Student saying that, the reaction is "yeah, fuck that asshole", but a school administrator, people will be out for their job (and rightfully so in my opinion).

Do Americans not have Student Unions?

Okay to elaborate...in the UK student unions are a HUGE thing. Almost every University has a student union, which are all (well I think all) part of the National Union of Students (NUS) which is an absolutely gigantic monolith of a nation-wide organisation. The NUS does a variety of things including politically representing student's interests to central government and championing students' rights.

On a more local level, like Goldsmith's Student Union, they are typically semi-independent of the University itself but are inextricably tied with said University (which means they're basically involved in the University permanently despite "technically" in most cases being independently-run from it). Fundamentally they represent every single student in the University they are affiliated with and act as a central hub for social activities, political activism, student support and all of that stuff.

As far as this woman goes, she's one of the Union Officers. The Unions tend to have a bunch of staff (in Goldsmith's case they have a Chief Executive and Deputy, for example, as well as a pile of other co-ordinators and managers) and handful of democratically elected full-time student officers (taking sabbaticals from their study to do the job). They are full-time paid positions to which they are elected by the student body (or at least those who can be bothered to actually vote in them) and are intended to be representative of the student body, representing it on every level and dealing with issues put to them within their remit. They are also typically responsible for sitting on appropriate University committees as the student representative and for meeting with University staff on behalf of students. Student Officers tend to be fairly responsible roles that, somewhat unfortunately, have issues with getting people to actually vote; which means that bloc-voting is frequently successful which makes the whole process somewhat vulnerable to people with agendas or egos.

To put this as simply as possible though: she was democratically elected by the student body to this role for a one year term and is getting paid £22,000 per year (source: http://www.goldsmithssu.org/representation/elections/positions/fulltime/ ) to be the Welfare and Diversity Officer; caring for student welfare and acting as one of the "faces" of the student body. She isn't getting paid by the University directly, she's getting paid by the Union, but the Union is inextricably tied to the University. And at a very high level (as in she will be liaising with senior faculty, probably not the Vice-Chancellor because the Union President will typically deal with them if at all, but definitely high-level staff). As well as publicly representing the student body of that University and, indirectly, the University itself.

Officially I think the right people to write to would probably be the Union President and Chief Executive. But ultimately Universities effectively have some responsibility for their Unions. And, more to the point, Universities could make things extremely difficult for someone who they do not want in a position by just refusing to deal with them and barring them from meetings.

Yes and no, we do but to my knowledge they are nothing like that. As someone who attended a community college in Connecticut (Three Rivers, which actually had one of the best Criminal Justice programs there is despite that, being set up and run by the former head of the Connecticut State Police) I can say there WAS a student union, but I never got the impression it was anything that powerful or connected as it didn't seem to do much of anything, it was just sort of "there" and helped organize events and such. I care enough to learn much about it as it never influenced many things I was doing, and it certainly didn't have the power to produce loudmouths like this lady, or at least not that I saw.

That said, my basic attitude is that the university seems to be giving implicit support to this racism by not taking any action. For everything that you've said, it still appears that the student unions are allowed to operate on Campus this way because they have permission from the university, they are at the end of the day a private organization that provides service to the school, so to speak. There is no reason at all she can't be thrown off property, and the union told to produce another rep, because even if the students themselves elected the person that shouldn't be binding to the university. I suppose something like the Student Union you described could make a big deal out of it, try and arrange student protests, or whatever else, since this kind of pressure is probably part of how it holds power anyway, but I can't see such an organization successfully rallying on behalf of a racist, and if they did they would probably put themselves into jeopardy especially if the universities petitioned the government to remove the union and it's reps from all campuses nation wide... nobody would benefit from that, and nobody would want to see it pushed that far especially in response to something like this.

Basically all I can say is again, the university seems to be showing approval as I think it could do a lot more. There is no reason to arrest her yet, but they could ban her from property.

Of course disturbingly enough I don't see many students rallying to protest her either going by this, so that probably says something about the community on that campus.

As I said in another post, at the end of the day there is nothing most of us can do about this crap, so let it go on, then when the inevitable backlash happens people will reap what they are sowing now. I anticipate it's only a matter of time before both the US and UK do indeed have a problem with militant white racists, the ones being created right now by this crap. The only down side is that I have to get dragged down by the inevitable crossfire while everyone runs around going "oh no, how could this have happened, why did nobody see it coming".

While she's a matter of the faculty down here the US has their own version of this lady named "Said Grundy" who just went on a tirade against evil white men via social media, never truly apologized, and for whatever reason wasn't fired. Her subject is *ahem* Black Sociology, and in her words she merely got "too fired up about her beliefs in public". Now all we need is for someone to other European equivilents and of course ones from Canada and Australia and we will then be able to show that the problem is becoming universal.

 

[Jack Action]

Some of those who allied with Hitler, namely Romania, did so because they wanted the Jews killed off less due to any kind of ethnic hatred but because of a desire for the "re-Romanianization or property". Basically substantial portions of Romania were owned by Jews who were doing nothing with the property and refused to part with it, and on it's own the government couldn't deal with the problem since the Jews while a minority were too powerful internally, the Nazis were welcomed for providing manpower and firepower to remove the Jewish population and see the property returned to the hands of Romanians. You can read anything you want between the lines of any of that of course. I'm not attempting to sell you or anyone on anti-Semitic propaganda (which would be impossible in your case obviously) so much as explain the point of view.

I would really like some evidence for this, because afaik we allied with der Nazis because they promised to let us have some specific territories. We switched when it became obvious Germany had neither the will nor the means to fulfil that promise, while the allies did and made the exact same offer. Then they sold us out to the Russians, but hey.

 

[MiskWisk]

Well, I'd like to talk about how this woman is an idiot but that has already been done to death.

As an aside though, I've realised I'm becoming a little... twitchy about the term "minority" simply because of how context sensitive the term is. I mean, if I, a white British man were to go to somewhere like (picking a name out of a hat) Beijing, do I not have the right to declare myself a minority?

 

[Therumancer]

Some of those who allied with Hitler, namely Romania, did so because they wanted the Jews killed off less due to any kind of ethnic hatred but because of a desire for the "re-Romanianization or property". Basically substantial portions of Romania were owned by Jews who were doing nothing with the property and refused to part with it, and on it's own the government couldn't deal with the problem since the Jews while a minority were too powerful internally, the Nazis were welcomed for providing manpower and firepower to remove the Jewish population and see the property returned to the hands of Romanians. You can read anything you want between the lines of any of that of course. I'm not attempting to sell you or anyone on anti-Semitic propaganda (which would be impossible in your case obviously) so much as explain the point of view.

I would really like some evidence for this, because afaik we allied with der Nazis because they promised to let us have some specific territories. We switched when it became obvious Germany had neither the will nor the means to fulfil that promise, while the allies did and made the exact same offer. Then they sold us out to the Russians, but hey.

It's questionable if you'd accept anything I explained or pointed out simply because I'm sure Romania has it's own way of wanting to remember history, like everyone, and simply put if you require "proof" of something like this then by definition your already going to be omitting anything I'm likely to show you, so I generally don't get into discussions where people are asking for proof of common knowledge.

That said, while it's not the best site in the world Wikipedia does have a pretty solid page dedicated to the history of Jews in Romania, though I guess because of disagreements with Romanians the section on World War II is notably cut other than some basic mention of well documented massacres. That said it does make specific mention of fights over Jewish property ownership, and attempts to remove Jewish citizenship all the way through the 1910s and 1920s. You can also find some points about this and citizenship (which has been tied to property ownership) on sites like "The Jewish Virtual Library" where there is a section on "The Plan Of The Extermination Of Romanian Jewry".

One thing you will find on a number of sites is comments on the internal struggles between fascists and more progressive thinkers, in Romania at the time causing some of the laws to waffle, including a brief period where the "Iron Guard" was basically banned. That said it was an alliance with Germany that provided the muscle for the fascists to cement their power base and what gave them the firepower to actually begin the purges and property reclaimation. One thing the sources do not seem to dispute is the body count once Romania decided it's best interests were served through an alliance with Hitler.

That said, I don't think these kinds of sources are going to be really popular with you, let's just say Romania does not exactly have a sterling reputation during that time period, and yeah, Romania did fall into lock step and get involved in The Holocaust which was right in line with what a lot of people there wanted to begin with. It wasn't just Hitler promising territory, though to be frank I have no doubt he promised that too, Hitler was nothing if not charismatic and gifted at telling people exactly what they wanted to hear.

 

[Jack Action]

It's questionable if you'd accept anything I explained or pointed out simply because I'm sure Romania has it's own way of wanting to remember history, like everyone, and simply put if you require "proof" of something like this then by definition your already going to be omitting anything I'm likely to show you, so I generally don't get into discussions where people are asking for proof of common knowledge.

That said, while it's not the best site in the world Wikipedia does have a pretty solid page dedicated to the history of Jews in Romania, though I guess because of disagreements with Romanians the section on World War II is notably cut other than some basic mention of well documented massacres. That said it does make specific mention of fights over Jewish property ownership, and attempts to remove Jewish citizenship all the way through the 1910s and 1920s. You can also find some points about this and citizenship (which has been tied to property ownership) on sites like "The Jewish Virtual Library" where there is a section on "The Plan Of The Extermination Of Romanian Jewry".

One thing you will find on a number of sites is comments on the internal struggles between fascists and more progressive thinkers, in Romania at the time causing some of the laws to waffle, including a brief period where the "Iron Guard" was basically banned. That said it was an alliance with Germany that provided the muscle for the fascists to cement their power base and what gave them the firepower to actually begin the purges and property reclaimation. One thing the sources do not seem to dispute is the body count once Romania decided it's best interests were served through an alliance with Hitler.

That said, I don't think these kinds of sources are going to be really popular with you, let's just say Romania does not exactly have a sterling reputation during that time period, and yeah, Romania did fall into lock step and get involved in The Holocaust which was right in line with what a lot of people there wanted to begin with. It wasn't just Hitler promising territory, though to be frank I have no doubt he promised that too, Hitler was nothing if not charismatic and gifted at telling people exactly what they wanted to hear.

I don't doubt that disposing of the Jews and anyone else who was part of a not-exactly-popular group was a very nice bonus, since it was a popular thing at the time, but calling it the prime reason when the Nazis offered a solution to the territorial disputes we've been having with the Hungarians over the last ~400 years is disingenuous, especially since solving said disputes and incorporating anything we saw as "our" territory (that being mostly various bits to the north and west) into the motherland was our raison d'etre after the Turks stopped trying to invade.

 

[Therumancer]

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I wonder, would you give a several paragraph lecture to black people why racial segregation and slavery were A-okay and white people are also victims, would you dare say that to their face in public or publish your real name? I wonder if anti-semitism has been going so long it's hereditary now.

See, this is the kind of response I was concerned about when I wrote that, since I was explaining anti-Semitism to someone who claimed they were not sure about it despite being Jewish. As I pointed out I am not an anti-Semite and to be honest if I was, I wouldn't tip toe around it. I'm sure plenty of people on The Escapist know my general sentiments on gay men for example, not that I'm going to go into that again, I'm simply pointing out that I just generally don't give a crap about hiding my thoughts since I base my thoughts on this kind of subject on first hand experience and while some day my opinions my change, I have the nuts to stand by what I believe when it's unpopular.

That said, I have already written numerous bits about "black racism" in a number of directions over the years, some quite lengthy. Simply put by NOT being a racist I'm probably more offensive to many than actual racists are. Simply put I do not believe there is anything intrinsic to blacks that make them inferior, more apt to act out, or anything else. Indeed I feel that I can expect the same things from them as I can from whites, Asians, or anyone else for that matter. The problem with blacks is mostly cultural and a matter of behavior, which is what they get judged by, adjusting the attitudes and behaviors is the ultimate solution to the problems, though in practice that can be quite brutal since it basically amounts to showing a zero tolerance for attitudes and behaviors embraced by millions of people, combined with strict, and perhaps even brutal punishments. Forced societal assimilation is never a pretty thing, but ultimately the solution to the problems. Basically I feel that blacks have developed into too much of a confrontational counter culture based on entitlement and blame. Those that assimilate into society, and there are many who do, tend not to run into problems. For the majority though it doesn't matter what opportunities you present if they are not willing to take them. While not a fan of all of his politics Bill Cosby helped me learn to articulate some of my thoughts here (and despite his sex scandal he does have a PHD in education), he's someone who has spent millions of dollars of his own money trying to help blacks and as he points out you can provide all the computers and textbooks in the world and all the opportunities but none of it matters if the people see it as selling out and actually go out of their way to destroy what you give them.

One of the reasons why I am not a racist, and laugh at those that are, as well as laughing at the idea of some kind of debt owed over slavery is simply because human civilization started in the fertile crescent region. All of these "white power" loons seem to all forget that dark skinned people were building empires while us white dudes were the barbarians they all preyed on and enslaved. Even the greeks and romans were dark skinned people in reality, it's just that they were nearly wiped out in the fall of the Roman empire and the survivors were bred into the barbarian people who progressed and then built what gradually turned into the current great powers from what was left of Rome. Basically for most of human history it was a black dude who could have made a case for a white dude being an uncivilized animal, and for thousands of years dark skinned people enslaved the lighter skinned ones. Obviously this makes arguments about racial superiority a joke given how the situation reversed. It also means that arguments about entitlements due to slavery are a joke as well given that if you want to get technical blacks enslaved whites for thousands of years, far longer than the scant few centuries whites did the same. What's more it can be argued slavery still exists in one form or another through most of the world today, even if it's called something else. Whites are mostly noteworthy when it comes from slavery for ending it, perhaps due to some genetic memory of having been oppressed for so long, indeed it's white countries that try and prevent things like human trafficking and set global standards on human rights. While they term it differently consider that India accounts for 1/3rd of the human race, and China for another 1/3rd, and all other ethnicities share the remaining third, both India and China have all kinds of problems with types of forced servitude (look at the controversy caused by the Indian ambassador's wife and her maid here in the US), The Middle East has all kinds of weird systems of debt and servitude to say nothing of what it does to women, and through Africa you have different warlords enslaving the people under them to various purposes. It's mostly in North America and Europe that you see a big focus on human freedom, not that you'd ever guess that as an outsider given all the bloody whining.

That's pretty much the closest I can give you to the rant your wondering about if you want something I believe. If you wanted a hypothetical case for slavery, segregation, and similar things, I could probably do it, but the problem is such attitudes have been dead so long I don't really have much in the way of examples to base it on. With the anti-Semite stuff I've heard enough rants over the years to get the gist of the arguments, in comparison I can't think of one person who has tried to rationalize putting blacks in chains in the US. With other forms of slavery through the world in many cases they tend to view it as something else. India for example still holds to a lot of the ideas from their old "caste system" which they claim to have abolished but still exists especially given it's pseudo-religious basis combined with the continued dominance of the Hindu religion. Likewise the oppression in The Middle East comes in forms of indentured servitude, and of course the religious mandates involving women. In Africa your dealing with a bunch of rather savage areas and the bottom like is that this week's warlord holds everyone under his guns and forces them to do whatever he wants because might makes right there, China uses some warped ideas based on communism those guys you've heard of sharing dog crates with mats in them for sleeping space, the ones that live with their livestock (how SARS apparently got started), etc... basically argues that the job needs to be done, and these people are serving as part of the great societal machine, doing humble jobs that are needed, for equally humble compensation. The more favored city dwellers making up the elite (who have everything the first world do) have this weird way of lionizing the workers while at the same time brutally exploiting them and maintaining the status quo.

 

[IamLEAM1983]

Claiming that because of being a minority and being female, means you can't racist and sexist, is the most racist and sexist thing you can say outside of actual slurs.

True. I understand that white cis males have less to endure than, say, females of color because of how pervasive gender-based and racial profiling happens to be, but the fact is racism isn't limited to specific races. To say that it works only on the token minorities is fairly reductive.

A lot of us French Canadians (predominantly whites) like to brag that we can spot "the Anglos" (English Canadians, also predominantly white) on sight. Like there's a sort of racial dimorphism at play that makes you say "Yeah, that one's an Anglo." There isn't, of course, but this still does qualify as cultural racism. I'd use the term "culturalism" to distinguish it from hardcore racial discrimination, but it feels hackneyed.

From my genetics down to my culture, I'm part of the French Canadian "race". Disparaging on Anglophones - no matter how white they may be - should also be akin to racism.

Considering, Bahar Mustafa's logic doesn't hold water at all. It's Tumblr-level sophistry along the lines of the twentysomethings taking to that blogging platform and going "ALL MEN ARE SCUM!"

 

[RaikuFA]

https://www.change.org/p/goldsmiths-college-and-beyond-open-letter-in-solidarity-with-bahar-mustafa-welfare-and-diversity-officer-goldsmiths

Her side of the story. My head started hurting after the first paragraph.

 

[Silvanus]

Er...no. I'm pretty sure the petitioner is claiming that "#killallwhitemen" (mentioned in the petition), which she used and helped to propagate, is in breach of the 2006 Terrorism Act under section 1 "Encouragement of Terrorism". Which is something you'd have to take into a court of law to argue against because frankly I think that case could go either way. Having actually read that act one could easily argue that she's in breach of it for the following:

(2)A person commits an offence if-

(a)he publishes a statement to which this section applies or causes another to publish such a statement; and

(b)at the time he publishes it or causes it to be published, he-

(ii)is reckless as to whether members of the public will be directly or indirectly encouraged or otherwise induced by the statement to commit, prepare or instigate such acts or offences.

Source: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/11/section/1

Point 5 notes that it doesn't matter whether or not an offence was actually committed and I think she'd have a hell of a time trying to argue that the statement "didn't have her endorsement" (point 6) since she was trying to propagate it.

The hashtag is literally an encouragement of mass murder in an attempt to strike fear into a group of people. So effectively terrorism. Her defence of it appears to be "but its just a joke" which is basically no defence at all.

The case would not go either way; it would never even get to the Court stage, and if it were to do so, it would (almost) certainly only go one way. This would constitute a gigantic departure from how the Terrorism Act is practiced.

If we're going by a literal reading of the word of the Act, then you could equally make a case for a million other instances of idle hyperbole, ranging from playground threats to graffiti. The Act is used for ones which constitute a legitimate threat of some kind, which this does not.

Hate speech is not acceptable. Neither is encouraging people to murder others. Regardless of whether you claim "its just a joke".

Agreed.

I believe she called herself that in the video in post 26, and if she didn't she does expout the views which define cultural Marxism.

Oh, if she does, then I'll be quiet. I gave up on watching that video for reasons which should be obvious.

 

[Zontar]

Oh, if she does, then I'll be quiet. I gave up on watching that video for reasons which should be obvious.

Oh yeah, it's a real hard watch, I had to stop it a few times the first time someone showed it to me.

 

[Depulcator]

I wonder what his name was. To be this angry at a group of people, I really wonder what he did to her to make her like this.

 

[BrokenTinker]

I'm flabbergasted by this. After years of believing the tumblr feminist was simply an over exaggeration caused by a poorly thought out medium of discussion and the anonymity of users, we've discovered a real life, flesh and blood example. Its all there - the inability for minorities to discriminate, the belief that your own group is allowed to 'joke' about assaulting or murdering or otherwise harming another group while maintaining they themselves cannot be criticized or attacked, the callous word play, the absolute lack of professional courtesy...

My God. Tumblr people are real.

On the plus side, if I'm reading this right, shes not a University employee, but simply a student appointed representative. If so, I imagine everyone in that school can merrily ignore everything she says and go about their business.

Still... my world is a sadder one now.

Greetings fellow disenfranchised human, it's like I get to meet myself from ~15 years ago. Before tumbler, we had to deal with these type of people at our little get togethers. It was to the point that the gatherings were destroyed by these ppls, most of us just moved on and assumed people will just ignore crazies like her. How wrong we were, they have taken over parts of education as well as things like feminism (that's what the gathering I was attending were about, ironically enough).

Look on the bright side, at least you didn't dedicate years of your life to fight for equality as a feminist only to have it hijacked, all the goals torn and shredded and be (figurative) stabbed by the next wave of people that claim to take up the cause. Relations and discussions between ppls from different walks of life were possible back then, not so much now. And if you think she's the only one, you would be sadly mistaken. At least people are waking up to these ppls bigotry~ Feminists went from trying to solve problems to becoming THE problem. All we can do is display their bigotry for all the world to see outside the media, since the media tends to be highly selective and even make shit up to match their narrative.

Caption: cor blimey, aye, blimey alright.

 

[IamLEAM1983]

I wonder what his name was. To be this angry at a group of people, I really wonder what he did to her to make her like this.

You'd be surprised. A lot of so-called Social Justice Warriors have led pampered lives. Reaching a college campus does different things to different people, and the late twenties to early thirties are part of the first ten or so years of actual sociopolitical involvement or interest, in most people.

If she's verging on thirty, still studying and still supported by her parents, she has spare time to devote on causes that appeal to her - along with a frustratingly available echo chamber that keeps feeding her negative and misinformed view of the world.

Ask just about anyone. Over-simplifying a problem in the company of like-minded people feels good. Damn good, even. You spend a couple years thinking that your picket-fencing rage and strawman arguments have the power to change the world, you graduate, you get your first serious job and are forced to work in the company of A-Grade Adults for the first time in your life; and then your little fantasies of violent, even genocidal stabs at equality or democracy crumble like sand castles in the tide, when faced with the pressures and compromises required of the Real World. You wind up chewing on the resentment and become a boring and sensible adult who maybe watches C-SPAN every once in a while to maybe reinvigorate the sense that you're looking at a room full of howler monkeys flinging poo at each other.

Or, at least, that's my perspective on the matter as a former postgrad student who's only grown more jaded by politics with age.

 

[BrokenTinker]

I wonder what his name was. To be this angry at a group of people, I really wonder what he did to her to make her like this.

You'd be surprised. A lot of so-called Social Justice Warriors have led pampered lives. Reaching a college campus does different things to different people, and the late twenties to early thirties are part of the first ten or so years of actual sociopolitical involvement or interest, in most people.

If she's verging on thirty, still studying and still supported by her parents, she has spare time to devote on causes that appeal to her - along with a frustratingly available echo chamber that keeps feeding her negative and misinformed view of the world.

Ask just about anyone. Over-simplifying a problem in the company of like-minded people feels good. Damn good, even. You spend a couple years thinking that your picket-fencing rage and strawman arguments have the power to change the world, you graduate, you get your first serious job and are forced to work in the company of A-Grade Adults for the first time in your life; and then your little fantasies of violent, even genocidal stabs at equality or democracy crumble like sand castles in the tide, when faced with the pressures and compromises required of the Real World. You wind up chewing on the resentment and become a boring and sensible adult who maybe watches C-SPAN every once in a while to maybe reinvigorate the sense that you're looking at a room full of howler monkeys flinging poo at each other.

Or, at least, that's my perspective on the matter as a former postgrad student who's only grown more jaded by politics with age.

Indeed, you would be hardpressed to find anyone that's actually for equality and working for the betterment of humanity to be SJW. They'd be too busy working with NGOs or out there actually HELPING instead of being the slackavists that they are. How I'd love to bring some of these SJWs to do some farm and construction works for the poor and see them without their technology and comfort for a month.

 

[IamLEAM1983]

How I'd love to bring some of these SJWs to do some farm and construction works for the poor and see them without their technology and comfort for a month.

Oh, this would be glorious.

"Welcome to Camp Such-and-Such. We're going to spend the next month building and furnishing a school for the locals!
- Do you have WiFi? Where's the nearest Starbucks?
- We don't have WiFi, we have a crappy satellite phone that works only four hours each day. We don't have Starbucks, so welcome to the wonderful world of drinking from the local water well! Your kidneys will actually thank you!"

*insert panicked diatribes about being oppressed or denied basic rights, even though it totally does not work in the context*

 

[bartholen_v1legacy]

Unfortunately, due to listening lots of stuff like Sargon of Akkad and TL;DR at work, I've become more aware of how horrifyingly widely these people seem to inhabit academia and universities in particular. Now I'm thinking of applying to Uni myself just to see if that kind of thing exists in my country (yet). This is the end product of social media feminism: self-righteous, victim complex -ridden, narrow-minded, egotistical zealots who cannot be reasoned with in any way shape or form. These are the people who drink from mugs labeled "MALE TEARS", advocate causes like "Rape claims should always be assumed to be automatically true", complain about how the patriarchy forces men to suppress their feelings while screaming "CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE!" at them and shit like that. It feels like any day now we will witness the first on-campus acid attack on a white male by a feminist, while her hysterical supporters cheer her on and shout slurs like "Take that you patriarchal rapist shitlord!" at the guy writhing in agony on the ground.

You know what, perhaps mankind's and this planet's salvation might lie in these people. Maybe the crazy will spread around the world, to all minorities and ethnicities as well, and then all of male humankind, not just white privileged cisgendered rapist oppressor shitlords, will become the enemy. And because of the convenient echo chamber of Tumblr, no woman will relent from the ideology, but the idea that it's all men's fault will stay with them for all their days. I'd like to hope that then the shitstorm will reach critical mass, and all men around the world collectively go "Fuck it, it's not worth it anymore!" and retreat to playing videogames, drinking beer and fishing, and mankind will be reduced to about 5% of its current size.

As a side note, a week ago I started to think what could have been done for the actual feminist cause in poorer countries with the $160,000 grand Anita Sarkeesian received for doing nothing, and the idea made me sick to my stomach.

Edit: Wait what? This thread was about a petition? I'm quite comfortable in my seat, thank you. I'm not going to jump into the gladiator arena to fight windmills. That's walking windmills. With lawnmower blades instead or wings. And they shoot acid at you.

 

[RaikuFA]

Unfortunatelzwy, due to listening lots of stuff like Sargon of Akkad and TL;DR at work, I've become more aware of how horrifyingly widely these people seem to inhabit academia and universities in particular. Now I'm thinking of applying to Uni myself just to see if that kind of thing exists in my country (yet). This is the end product of social media feminism: self-righteous, victim complex -ridden, narrow-minded, egotistical zealots who cannot be reasoned with in any way shape or form. These are the people who drink from mugs labeled "MALE TEARS", advocate causes like "Rape claims should always be assumed to be automatically true", complain about how the patriarchy forces men to suppress their feelings while screaming "CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE!" at them and shit like that. It feels like any day now we will witness the first on-campus acid attack on a white male by a feminist, while her hysterical supporters cheer her on and shout slurs like "Take that you patriarchal rapist shitlord!" at the guy writhing in agony on the ground.

You know what, perhaps mankind's and this planet's salvation might lie in these people. Maybe the crazy will spread around the world, to all minorities and ethnicities as well, and then all of male humankind, not just white privileged cisgendered rapist oppressor shitlords, will become the enemy. And because of the convenient echo chamber of Tumblr, no woman will relent from the ideology, but the idea that it's all men's fault will stay with them for all their days. I'd like to hope that then the shitstorm will reach critical mass, and all men around the world collectively go "Fuck it, it's not worth it anymore!" and retreat to playing videogames, drinking beer and fishing, and mankind will be reduced to about 5% of its current size.

As a side note, a week ago I started to think what could have been done for the actual feminist cause in poorer countries with the $160,000 grand Anita Sarkeesian received for doing nothing, and the idea made me sick to my stomach.

Edit: Wait what? This thread was about a petition? I'm quite comfortable in my seat, thank you. I'm not going to jump into the gladiator arena to fight windmills. That's walking windmills. With lawnmower blades instead or wings. And they shoot acid at you.

Don't forget the windmills eat babies.

 

[PainInTheAssInternet]

https://www.change.org/p/goldsmiths-college-and-beyond-open-letter-in-solidarity-with-bahar-mustafa-welfare-and-diversity-officer-goldsmiths

Her side of the story. My head started hurting after the first paragraph.

I'm not going to get involved, but for all the huffing that article does about misrepresentations, it doesn't approach the antagonistic picture of her that's the source of her problems.

 

[RaikuFA]

https://www.change.org/p/goldsmiths-college-and-beyond-open-letter-in-solidarity-with-bahar-mustafa-welfare-and-diversity-officer-goldsmiths

Her side of the story. My head started hurting after the first paragraph.

I'm not going to get involved, but for all the huffing that article does about misrepresentations, it doesn't approach the antagonistic picture of her that's the source of her problems.

I think thats the point. That change.org rebuttal is saying "I'm not the bad guy, my detractors are.