Please Stop Bitching About Motion Controls
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And then next generation Nintendo will do the same thing they did with the N64 to slow the rate of shovelware on their systems and have little to no 3rd party support. Then the fanboys (the ones who think any game on a Nintendo system is automatically one of the best games ever) will blame the people who complained about the Wii until Nintendo does the same thing and gives them a new shiny object that catches the publics eye and the cycle will repeat.CTU_Loscombe said:
1:1 is awesome. I practice both fencing and kendo, now my skills may be useful for something; better yet you too could gain these skills if the game eases you in right.StriderShinryu said:
Better yet Die by the sword may finally have a controller human beings can use without the avatar just flailing around; some 12 years later.
RED STEEL 2!rockyoumonkeys said:
You can't find a game that uses the remote more, and this game is very fun gameplaywise.
Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition!
The controls got BETTER with the remote.
Incidentally, on topic, I don't really think the Kinect has much potential in everyday games. Too many variables have to be judged SOLELY by your posture and arms. I simply can't understand how you'd move. If you do know, someone, tell me.
So if well-executed, motion controls DO provide good gameplay.
While i dont encourage swiching completely to motion controlls, i don't think they are bad form of controlls. Especially for FPS they are a great form of control, similar to a light gun in a arcade. I don't mind 80% being minigames and childrens games either, because I DON'T HAVE TO BUY THEm if i dont like it. There are enough good titles on the wii. I also never tried the Motion Plus, i guess it would even further improve the experience. I just didnt care enough to buy it so far and have been able to do fine either way.
I OBEY! I OBEY!Alakaizer said:
(Spoken for irony's sake.)
In all seriousness, I never bought any of these motion-sensitive doohickeys and find that the Wii is a bit too sensitive to the unconscious motions of the user, a thing that I have observed in playing games owned by a friend on his system. Personal experience dictates that I would not really enjoy a Wii. Ergo, I am waiting for the Cowboy Bebop gaming device that reads impulses of the brain instead.
A-FREAKING-MEN.
I'm tired of the same thing. As is seen with motion controls, 3D, and pretty much anything else new, some people are too blind to look past the bad examples. It's time we stop being stupid and let motion controls develop their potential rather than trying to stop them in their tracks. Progress was never made by shooting something down in its infancy simply because it's not yet mature.
I'm tired of the same thing. As is seen with motion controls, 3D, and pretty much anything else new, some people are too blind to look past the bad examples. It's time we stop being stupid and let motion controls develop their potential rather than trying to stop them in their tracks. Progress was never made by shooting something down in its infancy simply because it's not yet mature.
Er, it's not the concept that sucks, it's the execution. Honestly, in Wii Tennis you flick the remote a couple millimetres and your character runs to the other side of the court and performs a spectacular dive-hit...
Also, this is the best example ever of the Escapist community's complete and utter hypocrisy. I lol'd.
Also, this is the best example ever of the Escapist community's complete and utter hypocrisy. I lol'd.
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/10/13/an-fps-on-kinect/Alakaizer said:
Link is NSFW but I think it might actually be a hardware issue?
I never get threads like this? I mean you want people to stop making threads about motion controls so what do you do...you make one about people making them...doesn't make much sense to me :/
I think the biggest problem is that when Nintendo went fully motion control with the Wii (as opposed to just using a motion control peripheral) all the Sony and Microsoft fanboys automatically decided that it was stupid. Now Microsoft and Sony are doing it, they don't know where they stand anymore. 'Cause, you know, no one will ever admit to jumping to a hasty conclusion....
Okay, I know maybe you're just disagreeing with me, but you're coming off like you're saying I'm wrong.Nieroshai said:
I hated RE4 on the Wii. I liked it a lot on the GC and PS2. Again, I like the stick more than pointing at the screen.
And to that other guy, it has nothing to do with auto-aim.
The one thing I thought the Sixaxis would do in a game is something said game series decided to remove... leaning around corners in Call Of Duty 3.voorhees123 said:
PC FPS starting getting on the lean bandwagon when stealth oriented games like Thief & Deus Ex came out and suddenly there were two extra keys getting added to everyone's control scheme whether it was useful or not... and I had dim hopes that the Sixaxis would make the feature work on a console.
And, of course, they didn't use it. You could drive vehicles using the controller as a steering wheel, which was far more awkward than just using the thumbsticks. You could but someone with your gun with it, which wasn't super great but it was usually the only melee command I remembered in the few spots where you needed to do this. Then every so often the game put me in a uber-shield while I wiggled and rotated the controller to completely not simulate the act of arming a bomb. And my favorite (and by favorite, I mean FUCK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS IN THE GAME) Quick Time Events using controller waggling instead of buttons.
But the one thing that would have made the feature slightly useful got taken out of the series to make it easier to play on consoles. No great loss, but it had the potential to be sweet.
I think the big problem is that players tend to hold their controllers in all sorts of ways. I know when I'm playing LittleBigPlanet which uses the sixaxis for head and hip movement (and not actual gameplay), I dimly find myself wondering why my guy is looking up or down or sideways... then remembering, oh, yeah, his head does whatever my controller is doing and sometimes I'm leaning back with it, sometimes I'm leaning over, sometimes I hunched toward the screen and any motion control system would need to take these various postures into consideration. Instead, when they happen, I have to sit upright, try to hold my controller level and try to give the game the sort of feedback it's looking for.
I hold out hope that someone will figure out a way to make them work well in a game... but, yeah, abysmal failure seems to describe it so far. They can be lots of fun, but they only seem to work well in casual games or games featuring a fair amount of sword fighting (like Star Wars).Cassita said:
I would love someone to come up with a FPS motion control scheme that eradicates my problem with the aiming system of a gamepad... although I'm not sure I want to be holding a fake gun up at a screen for more than an hour or so.
Not a God?! How dare you?! Infidel!!112...!1Alakaizer said:
Anyway, I just never got the appeal of flailing my arms in the air like a monkey on speed, that would be my reason.
But it seems alot of people like that, as Wii sells far more then any other console.
And Wii games seem to sell far less than any other console. I've yet to be in a Gamestop or Wal-Mart where the Wii selection rivaled that of the PS3 or 360.Mr.K. said:Not a God?! How dare you?! Infidel!!112...!1Alakaizer said:
Anyway, I just never got the appeal of flailing my arms in the air like a monkey on speed, that would be my reason.
But it seems alot of people like that, as Wii sells far more then any other console.
Go to the ENN page. Look at the video "Room to grow" Paul Saunders make a great point of the main failure of the kinect: The room needed for it to function. For the best setting, one player must stand 6 feet away from the TV. Add another 3-4 feet for couch and room to move, plus another foot or two for the TV in back of the Kinect. You're already looking at a 12 foot long living room, without coffee tables moved out fo the way. Want to play multiplayer? If you have two people in the room, you need to move 2 more feet back. I don't know of mnay people who have 14 feet for just the length of their living room. Arm span is approximately 5 1/2 feet, so for two people that's 11 feet, plus a few feet on each side for moving around.Alakaizer said:
I live in an apartment. All my friends live in apartments. Even at home I didn't have that kinda room. Yes, I realize this is "Recommended" by I don't want my gaming experiance to suffer because "I wasn't standing far enough from the TV".