Please Stop Making Me Hate The Simpsons

Delusibeta

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Peter: Everyone, I've got bad news: We've been canceled.
Lois: Oh no, Peter, how could they do that?
Peter: Well unfortunately, Lois, there's just no more room on the schedule. We've just got to accept the fact that Fox has to make room for terrific shows like: Dark Angel; Titus; Undeclared; Action; That 80's Show; Wonderfalls; Fast Lane; Andy Richter Controls The Universe; Skin; Girls Club; Cracking Up; The Pitts; Firefly; Get Real; Freakylinks; Wanda At Large; Costello; The Lone Gunmen; A Minute With Stan Hooper; Normal Ohio; Pasadena; Harsh Realm; Keen Eddie; The Street; American Embassy; Cedric The Entertainer; The Tick; Louie; and Greg The Bunny.
Lois: Is there no hope?
Peter: Well, I suppose if all those shows go down the tubes we might have a shot.
Yeah, I think you might have the wrong target. (from the TVTropes page on Un Cancelled [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnCanceled?from=Main.UnCancelled].)
 

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It always seems like the best shows get cancelled because of lack of interest by the public. I gave up on the simpsons a while ago. for me the best episode and a good marker of the high point of the show is 'The Computer Wore Menace Shoes'.
 

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I don't really get it. Why is Firefly to be considered greatness incarnate? I watched all episodes and the movie, yet didn't find it especially interesting (except for one episode).

I don't want to troll, I'd just like to understand what's to be seen in the series.
 

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Fox: The douchebags of TV.

I don't really watch many shows with regularity, and I've only seen about3 episodes in total of the Simpsons. The only shows I watch are either on Discovery or USA, and they both are wonderful so I'll leave Fox to their shenanigans and their increasingly bad Lie to Me.
 

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I think I might become in love with you, Elizabeth. I've only seen the animated version of "the tick". it was not that good I thought. And I never uderstood the deal with arrested development. I hate Fox for cancelling Firefly. I think its the best science fiction series ever created. I would love to see a second season of that show, but at the same time I don't want them too pick it up again. The show left me wanting more. I still remember the show as awesome and new. great dialoug and characters. it was truly brilliant. I remember Heroes was awesome and cool too, and at the end of the first season I wanted more. But at the end of the second season I didn't care anymore. It just wheren't any good. it down right sucked. and then they made another season. So now I remember Heroes as the show that crashed and burned, and not as the awesome show that got ended too soon. the same thing happened with "Chuck, and are slowly happening with "Dexter". I am afraid that if they pick up firefly again, they will taint all my good memories I have about the show. shows that have a story to tell like these shows, can't just go on for ever. because soon they will just be repeating them selves, and the story gets too thin and pointless. What they should do is make a story. and when that story is told and finish they should finish it and leave it alone. Battlestar Galactica is a really good example of that. They should have a three season maximum. sitcom's is different. they are just there to make you laugh. and as long the timing is good, and the character relationships still works, its fine with me.
 

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Delusibeta said:
Keen Eddie
Keen Eddie, yes thankyou for reminding me of another great Fox victim. It was funny, the directing was snazzy and it gave the world a young and gorgeous Sienna Miller.


Xerosch said:
I don't really get it. Why is Firefly to be considered greatness incarnate? I watched all episodes and the movie, yet didn't find it especially interesting (except for one episode).

I don't want to troll, I'd just like to understand what's to be seen in the series.
Some people go overboard in their Whedonism. Perhaps they are simply too consumed with what might have been themselves. Me? I watched the show when it was on and it's cancellation saddened me a little bit. But it had moments where it was too "Joss Whedon" for me. I watched the movie and I enjoyed it and since you saw it it'll make a good example. I suppose what people liked were the things that were different about it. Most movies, in the situation that the assassin/main villain is now defeated in the precarious location would have the hero kill the villain with a snappy one liner or the villain meet his just fate by some treacherous treachery. We come to expect this in movies. In Serenity, the hero instead leaves the villain alive, in the hopes he too can see the light when he learns what the organization he serves has been up to.

I think it's that sort of thing that made people go ga-ga. And while I never really went Ga-Ga I found it was an enjoyable show for the most part. If you didn't like it, that's fine. You gave it a chance which is more than a lot of people would do and that's all anyone can ask. Different things will just speak to different folks. For what it's worth I liked Farscape a lot more than Firefly, but the internet still sings Firefly's praises. To each their own.
 

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Arrested = Good.

Futurama = airing on comedy central.

King of the hill? :(

Also, I'd like them to cancel anything related to family guy. And that includes those other copy pastas by that guy, but that'll never happen, you know what, hell, jst get that preachy ass hole out of TV in general. I can dream, can't I?
I never did understand the love for King of the Hill. I really didn't.

With regards to the Simpsons, I suspect I am one of the few people here who were alive during a time when the Simpsons was not on TV. For 10 years that show defined my Sunday evenings. Strangely, Elizabeth seems to share my favorite pair of episodes. You Only Move twice has my favorite scene in all of television (The military is invading the complex while Homer and Scorpio have a heart to heart talk about moving back to Springfield) while Cape Feare has the one that caused the longest fit of sustained laughing in my life (when Sideshow Bob steps on rake after rake). Yes the show still produces the occasional quality episode, and yes it still manages to be funny more often than most shows but the charm is gone.

And really I can't blame anyone for that fact. There were only so many stories these characters could ever tell. Over time they became caricatures of themselves. Much of the charm of the show for me lay in the subtle interpersonal relationships and character complexities but now characters are all but one-dimensional. The show stoops to making insipid points with all the delicacy of a reconfiguration of the knee with a baseball bat. Yes, the show probably does deserve to be cancelled but I could never be the one to make the call any more than I could be the one to finally kill my cancer ailing 17 year Cocker Spaniel that had been by my side for most of my life that I could remember.

I cannot possibly agree with the Critic. When a show appears to run out of ideas after an incredibly brief run of less than a season, I cannot possibly hold out much hope. The rest of the list is worthy and I agree that Titus is a show that ought to be missed.
 

Onyx Oblivion

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Never did like the Simpsons, and still don't.

I just can't get into it, I'll watch Futurama from dusk 'till dawn, but I can't laugh at old or new Simpsons.

Even so, I can still tell when a show has been dragged on too long.

That said, not too much of a Firefly man. I watched it once, but it's not something I can ever see myself watching again.

Give me Angel and Buffy anyday. But mostly Angel. I must be one of 10 people on the internet who likes Angel more than Buffy.
 

Le_Lisra

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As this concerns television I firmly don't care.

Though I wish they'd finally cancel family guy and american dad so people would stop blabbering about them. Am I the only one who thinks they're not funny? And no more Metalocalypse please...

Now, who's bitter? :D
 

OniaPL

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DISCLAIMER: I like the simpsons.

As I am not famiiar with the American television that much, I can only speculate.
If a show gets cancelled, it doesnt make enough money, thus it doesnt have enough viewers.
If a show continues, it keeps making enough money to be continued, thus it has enough viewers.
Companies want money, right?
Earning money is more important than being a dick, in their opinion.
Because FOX keeps Simpsons on, it has viewers. It is popular.
Because FOX cancelled, for example, this Firefly show, it didn't make money = it didn't have enough viewers.

I understand that the airing time, developing costs and everything else affects this, but still. If one show has more viewers than the other, it is more popular. Debate about a show being better than others is based on the personal opinion of a small group of inviduals, but here the numbers show the truth, in my opinion.
 

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Yeah Fox doesn't know how to handle good shows. However, Simpsons is still good and you're a bitter self important prick. Also, what the hell were you thinking when you put The Tick on your list? That show was terrible.
 

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many times it seems like fox don't give the show a chance. Firefly got a bad start, since Fox for some reason decided to air Episode 2 before episode one. so people didn't understand who, what, where, and why. Also Fox have a nack of change the chedulde around. so people don't watch the show because it's not airing when they think its airing. Family Guy got cancelled three times. due to lack of viewers, and once some things some fanatics didn't like... and still it sold so much merch that they decided to pick it up again.
It seems like Fox try to kill new shows. and zombiefy the old ones.
 

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I haven't cared about the Simpsons since... season 12? After season 20 I stopped watching it every week, only ever now and then, and I can't remember the last time I watched the damn thing. Seriously, it's lost on me.

At least we have almost 200 great episodes from season 1 to 10, with some nice from 11 to 16.

Also, about The Tick - there's still the cartoon, which lasted a bit longer and is AWESOME.
 

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I know that it's been said a million times before, but I miss Firefly. They're still making comics, showing that the fanbase is still interested. Too bad it's been too long for them to have another season, or else I imagine someone at Fox would have considered it.

Fox, why you make me sad? D:
 

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A very interesting read and I completely agree about where The Simpsons started to lose it. I could watch the first 8 seasons on repeat and not get fed up of them.
They really should have buried this a long time ago before it got this bad.
Sadly I'd still rather watch it than that ass hat of a show Family Guy.
 

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JoelChenFA said:
Pirate Yoda Online said:
Oddly enough, Matt groening did very well here:

He moved all of the decent writers in the Simpsons onto Futurama, because he recognised that it was far easier to write origional material about outer space than bout one town in America.

However, Fox are stupid (They cancelled Family Guy twice ffs), and belive that anything which ran as strong as the simpsons and for so long must be holier than Jesus and indestructible.

So, The Simpsons trundles along, shite as can be, recycling old jokes, until Fox finally realise how stupid they have been and put the old dog down for good.
How is Family Guy any better than the simpsons? At least the simpsons has SOME jokes. The only thing FOX did right was to cancel family guy.

They did bring it back though. So Fox FTW still
Family guy still makes me laugh, whereas the simpsons doesn't. To correct your statement: the simpsons HAD some jokes.

Of course Family guy is nowhere near as good as the Simpsons WAS, but the simpsons is now stale and unfunny. It will happen to family guy someday as well.

Also, it's impossible to claim that a comedy show with a massive following has no jokes in it.
 

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Jurassic Bark killed a part of me, and Firefly brought it back to life.
I hate you Fox. I hate you soooo very much.