I'm all for cancelling The Simpsons if it will get people like this editor to complain less about stuff that they advertise as objectively bad.
Please Stop Making Me Hate The Simpsons
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The one that really bites me is Firefly. I thought Futurama was pretty good (I own all the seasons) but it had a good run. (most shows don't get 4 seasons as well as movies). The one I will disagree with is the Critic...I really didn't like the show. I can't explain why exactly except I found the main character to be more annoying than funny. The others I can fully agree with. As far as the Simpsons goes I tend to agree. I stopped watching several years ago but I remember laughing until I almost cried when the family was zapping each other in psychologists office and he yells "this is not the way to get healthy!!!" Season one I believe. That was some good stuff...
Do you love it really? DO YOU!?Blind Sight said:
The Simpsons has gone way downhill. I used to watch it religiously on Sky everyday and new eps on Sunday. Haven't bothered for years now.
Fox have always tried to act like the big shot and they believe that wielding the axe demonstrates that they are the corporation with the power to do as they please. What they don't realise is that other networks have much the same thing, but they would cancel poor shows.
Fox is owned by News Corporation - the plaything of Australian Megalomaniac Rupert Murdoch. This company runs the Sun and News of the World newspapers here in the UK and their management is much the same - get someone controversial and funny to run a column while they are this week's next best thing, then drop them straight away, as soon as they go a little cool. Their political view even shifts from election to election, picking the party that looks likely to win and throwing their lot in with them, faster than you can say "fill your boots"
I know that Futurama was one of the lucky few that managed to make a successful comeback (as a fan, I'd certainly say that it's a plus), but then so did Family Guy, on the back of DVD sales. What I would say in mitigation is that Fox isn't the only party guilty of cancelling a show before it's time, thinking along the lines of Farscape as an obvious example, but Fox has been rather more guilty of messing with the schedules and complaining that people don't then watch the shows.
Perhaps if Fox is going to be a bit petty about this, they should consider shorter seasons of shows and tweak the whole running order after 12 episodes, when new stuff comes into play? In the UK, our seasons are 6 episodes long and that is plenty of time to get through one decent sitcom - Blackadder gave us a different take on 4 separate time periods in 4 seasons of 6 episodes each. That's under 3 hours for a brief, but messed up history.
Then there's the flip side of the argument. The Simpsons. I own about the first 8 seasons on DVD and I've never had it in me to head to the shops and buy season 9 onwards. I bought the movie on DVD, but that was different, as I genuinely laughed at some of that plot... for a while. Sometimes, things do go on for too long, but the people behind it can't see that, as they're making money out of it. I'm still not sure what Groening was thinking with "I'd like a Simpsons Episode for every day of the year" Are you seriously going to sit through one episode a day? October will be almost entirely Treehouse of Horror and December will be a loop of Xmas specials. Have you really thought this through, Matt? The only reason you won't is because you've been paid for doing something that you teacher told you was bad back at school and you've become very wealthy off the back of News Corp. Well done.
Far be it for me to single out one story that started so brightly, only to be spread so thin over later seasons. There are other successful series that should also face the axe, but haven't done so, for commercial reasons, or even out of spite. These things happen and we just hope that by saving Futurama, we haven't doomed it to become the 31st Century Equivalent of the Simpsons.
Fox is owned by News Corporation - the plaything of Australian Megalomaniac Rupert Murdoch. This company runs the Sun and News of the World newspapers here in the UK and their management is much the same - get someone controversial and funny to run a column while they are this week's next best thing, then drop them straight away, as soon as they go a little cool. Their political view even shifts from election to election, picking the party that looks likely to win and throwing their lot in with them, faster than you can say "fill your boots"
I know that Futurama was one of the lucky few that managed to make a successful comeback (as a fan, I'd certainly say that it's a plus), but then so did Family Guy, on the back of DVD sales. What I would say in mitigation is that Fox isn't the only party guilty of cancelling a show before it's time, thinking along the lines of Farscape as an obvious example, but Fox has been rather more guilty of messing with the schedules and complaining that people don't then watch the shows.
Perhaps if Fox is going to be a bit petty about this, they should consider shorter seasons of shows and tweak the whole running order after 12 episodes, when new stuff comes into play? In the UK, our seasons are 6 episodes long and that is plenty of time to get through one decent sitcom - Blackadder gave us a different take on 4 separate time periods in 4 seasons of 6 episodes each. That's under 3 hours for a brief, but messed up history.
Then there's the flip side of the argument. The Simpsons. I own about the first 8 seasons on DVD and I've never had it in me to head to the shops and buy season 9 onwards. I bought the movie on DVD, but that was different, as I genuinely laughed at some of that plot... for a while. Sometimes, things do go on for too long, but the people behind it can't see that, as they're making money out of it. I'm still not sure what Groening was thinking with "I'd like a Simpsons Episode for every day of the year" Are you seriously going to sit through one episode a day? October will be almost entirely Treehouse of Horror and December will be a loop of Xmas specials. Have you really thought this through, Matt? The only reason you won't is because you've been paid for doing something that you teacher told you was bad back at school and you've become very wealthy off the back of News Corp. Well done.
Far be it for me to single out one story that started so brightly, only to be spread so thin over later seasons. There are other successful series that should also face the axe, but haven't done so, for commercial reasons, or even out of spite. These things happen and we just hope that by saving Futurama, we haven't doomed it to become the 31st Century Equivalent of the Simpsons.
I actually had to bribe a friend of mine into watching it after I bought it on DVD, he just refused to watch it at first. But after the first episode he was hooked, he hadn't seen anything like it on TV before.praetor_alpha said:
I love this scene, and it becomes so much more funny when you know the background to it.
I like the Simpson's, you know that generally T.V companies usually have different financial pots for show development and continuation of shows. It's quite common place for older more established shows to bankroll newly developed ones.
SO I would say that the Simpson's was actually responsible for Fox taking gambles on shows like the Tick and Firefly, programmes do not get cancelled because of old shows stealing the limelight they get cancelled for many reasons.
Without the Simpson's Fox would play it safe, with reality shows 24 hours a day, no dramas and certainly no Animations. No precedent would have been set and we would end up with "animal survivor."
Also it boils down to people hating the Simpson's not based on anything other that, "I watched a half hour cartoon five years ago and it didn't fit in with my world view or humour, So I have boycotted it since!"
Basing your opinion on perhaps 3 episodes at best is not a great way to go about things, especially as the new series are great! Before you call for cancellations picture Fox using the money on making.
Liberal Survivor, where they place 4 liberal thinkers on an island full of killer bears and every week the viewers want to be eaten. No guns though liberals don't use them!
Or a programme devoted to the elevation of Rupert Murdoch to emperor of the universe!
SO I would say that the Simpson's was actually responsible for Fox taking gambles on shows like the Tick and Firefly, programmes do not get cancelled because of old shows stealing the limelight they get cancelled for many reasons.
Without the Simpson's Fox would play it safe, with reality shows 24 hours a day, no dramas and certainly no Animations. No precedent would have been set and we would end up with "animal survivor."
Also it boils down to people hating the Simpson's not based on anything other that, "I watched a half hour cartoon five years ago and it didn't fit in with my world view or humour, So I have boycotted it since!"
Basing your opinion on perhaps 3 episodes at best is not a great way to go about things, especially as the new series are great! Before you call for cancellations picture Fox using the money on making.
Liberal Survivor, where they place 4 liberal thinkers on an island full of killer bears and every week the viewers want to be eaten. No guns though liberals don't use them!
Or a programme devoted to the elevation of Rupert Murdoch to emperor of the universe!
How is Family Guy any better than the simpsons? At least the simpsons has SOME jokes. The only thing FOX did right was to cancel family guy.Pirate Yoda Online said:
They did bring it back though. So Fox FTW still
I made a post about this many months ago during the last season of the Simpsons saying it should most likely be cancelled.
I understand people say its better than what else is on. thats fair enough. But compared to what it used to be like, id even go as far as saying up to around season 16 it had been on a slowish decline since season 10, the quality was still ok and made me laugh not in the old way of pure gut wrenching laughter as the first 8-10 seasons but more on just laughing at something totally stupid.
But since season 16 and especially the last 2 seasons 21 & 22 almost every single episode is terrible. I hate to say it and people may disagree, some of the story lines a remakes of old ones, the jokes (if there are any really) dont make me laugh. Some episodes i can watch and no laugh once through the whole thing im just kind of watching it for the sake of it.
I think the simpsons is the greatest animated show and one of the greatest shows of all time even with its decline in quality but i think it should end sooner rather than later so that it is remembered more fondly than it might in a few more years.
Also the cancellation of Futurama was the biggest mistake ever. I know its been brought back on another network and though occassionally funny it is nothing like the futurama's of the original 4 seasons. The great 1 liners seem to have gone and it doesnt (yet) feel like the futurama of old.
God.. i loved that show
. How can you beat one liners such as , Zapp Branigan "You win again gravity", Dr Zoidberg - "Help friends a guinea pig tricked me". - "Help bender you've gotta spring me, I won't survive in here IM TOO PRETTY"
I understand people say its better than what else is on. thats fair enough. But compared to what it used to be like, id even go as far as saying up to around season 16 it had been on a slowish decline since season 10, the quality was still ok and made me laugh not in the old way of pure gut wrenching laughter as the first 8-10 seasons but more on just laughing at something totally stupid.
But since season 16 and especially the last 2 seasons 21 & 22 almost every single episode is terrible. I hate to say it and people may disagree, some of the story lines a remakes of old ones, the jokes (if there are any really) dont make me laugh. Some episodes i can watch and no laugh once through the whole thing im just kind of watching it for the sake of it.
I think the simpsons is the greatest animated show and one of the greatest shows of all time even with its decline in quality but i think it should end sooner rather than later so that it is remembered more fondly than it might in a few more years.
Also the cancellation of Futurama was the biggest mistake ever. I know its been brought back on another network and though occassionally funny it is nothing like the futurama's of the original 4 seasons. The great 1 liners seem to have gone and it doesnt (yet) feel like the futurama of old.
God.. i loved that show
. How can you beat one liners such as , Zapp Branigan "You win again gravity", Dr Zoidberg - "Help friends a guinea pig tricked me". - "Help bender you've gotta spring me, I won't survive in here IM TOO PRETTY"
Haven't seen a simpson episode in years, and i don't know anyone of my friends to have watched any either. Family Guy has pretty much made that show a moot point. (whether or not FG is better is a whole other issue)
Futurama is the only show on the list i wholeheartedly agree with. Best damn animated comedy series! Must have watched each episode of season 1-3 6+ times on Adult Swim! Its unfortunate that CN gave it up to Comedy Central But hey at least its still on TV
Futurama is the only show on the list i wholeheartedly agree with. Best damn animated comedy series! Must have watched each episode of season 1-3 6+ times on Adult Swim! Its unfortunate that CN gave it up to Comedy Central
But hey at least its still on TV 
Well spoken, sir.
I saw the way down was starting in season 6. Season 7 is the last that I found worth looking (though note: I'm not sure of what season is what, so it may be 5-7, 6-8 or some other).
They start to go "let's deliver most political correction messages" and less "we're comedy, we have to look to make people laugh". It stopped being about funny and more about "Ooooooooh! we've drawn the Queen of England! Aaaaaah! We've got this rockstar to put his voice". And they pay newspaper to publish that as news. Next Simpson will feature the garbage bin of Obama's father in law's step-ex-cousin.
I will only watch the episode that features "The Simpsons' die a painful but funny death".
I saw the way down was starting in season 6. Season 7 is the last that I found worth looking (though note: I'm not sure of what season is what, so it may be 5-7, 6-8 or some other).
They start to go "let's deliver most political correction messages" and less "we're comedy, we have to look to make people laugh". It stopped being about funny and more about "Ooooooooh! we've drawn the Queen of England! Aaaaaah! We've got this rockstar to put his voice". And they pay newspaper to publish that as news. Next Simpson will feature the garbage bin of Obama's father in law's step-ex-cousin.
I will only watch the episode that features "The Simpsons' die a painful but funny death".
Wouldn't be adding much to the conversation but the Simpsons was a show of the 90s, and there it shall remain. I own Season 1 to 10 on DVD and I'd rather the remaining seasons were erased from human memory than exist for the few good bits since then.
My brother and I grew up with the Simpsons, waiting every Sunday for the new ones. I can still watch seasons 4-8 and be in genuine tears of laughter, now when I accidentally see it on Channel 4 the new episode bring an entirely different set of tears.
Homer: Oh my God!
Lisa: What is it?
Homer: Tramapoline! Trampopoline! [runs out]
Bart: He said what now?
Marge: Please, don't bring home any more old crutches!
My brother and I grew up with the Simpsons, waiting every Sunday for the new ones. I can still watch seasons 4-8 and be in genuine tears of laughter, now when I accidentally see it on Channel 4 the new episode bring an entirely different set of tears.
Homer: Oh my God!
Lisa: What is it?
Homer: Tramapoline! Trampopoline! [runs out]
Bart: He said what now?
Marge: Please, don't bring home any more old crutches!
The Simpsons probably has gone on a bit long. Firefly definitely shouldn't have been cancelled. That show was probably the best sci-fi series I have ever watched. As for Arrested Development, the few episodes I have seen were so boring I switched channels.
I love the simpsons and while the show has dropped in quality in the last few has dropped with only a few notable exceptions, i still enjoy watching it. I mean the 21st and so far 22nd seasons have been quite good, no where near as bad as seasons 18, 19 and 20. But really I love this show too much to let it be dragged on forever. Please fox let the 23rd season be the last, let the show go out on a high. And Matt Greoning & co, come on it been over 20 amazing years time to move on, Futurama is back, time to past on the torch
Ah yes, Brimstone. A show that was near and dear to my heart. It was pretty taxing if you were a fan. Sci-Fi actually was going to pick this one up. They even started showing the episodes in their prime-line up nights and hosted a live webchat for the premiere of them with some of the show's stars, producers and writers. But at the last minute sci-fi instead opted to continue the USA canceled, G vs E. Which I assume didn't work out for them. Hopes lifted, then dashed, in short order. I'd still love a return for this show, but after all these years that seems unlikely. The tragedy of it to me will always be how close it came to salvation.Dexter111 said:You forgot John Doe, Drive, Defying Gravity, Brimstone and a few others that were great... it's what FOX does xD
There was a joke about it in the American Dad episode "White Rice" where Francine gets a show and its cancelled after one joke and I had seen that joke from miles away cause it's just so true
I'm happy for you that you like the show, it carries a lot of nostalgia for me so for that reason I don't exactly want to see it canceled. But it has become monstrously unfunny. So I don't watch it. It's not a boycott, and it has nothing to do with my "world view", (I don't think we could do with less privatization and therefore, less Simpsons) it's just a matter of personal taste. Every time I do watch an episode I am quickly reminded of why I've stopped. If you asked me academically, I'd say the show is long over due for cancellation. That wouldn't stop fox from trying out new shows, all networks must. And that wouldn't mean the reality TV dinosaur would come roaring back, it went extinct for a reason.electric discordian said: