Pokemon Bank US Release Officially Delayed

loa

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Yopaz said:
You seem to mistake your opinion for fact but I regard the ability to preserve my progress while still having access to all the games content as important, vital even -be it through multiple save files or by simply not overwriting the progress that matters.

Sure, some people may "get by just fine" if for example photoshop irreversably deleted your previous picture when starting a new one and you may only have 1 picture at the same time for each photoshop license, some people may "get by just fine" if wow only had 1 character slot you have to overwrite which also deletes all your items but that doesn't excuse or justify it nor does it mean people had a choice to begin with and if you're wondering why oh why I went "off topic", the pokebank adds this basic feature but for a fee which is pretty gross seeing how nintendo rolls in money thanks to this franchise and no, I do not care if it's only this and this much per month, there is just no reason for it and it can only get worse from here because I can promise you, gamefreak are the last people on earth who will do anything useful or meaningful like an official simulator in which you can use your in-game team or trading pokemon through a website and not the game with this judged by what they're already doing with the global link service.
 

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BooTsPs3 said:
There is no point arguing with you. You are so far up nintendo's butthole that you can only taste the sweet luxuries they ingest.
Arguing? And what have you brought to the table outside of insults that would make places like IGN proud.

You have an excuse for even the most objective of problems and it's pointless for me to continue this.
So anything that isn't agreeing with you is excuse making?

But as a closing statement i'd like to add that this whole fiasco could easily have been avoided with a local app using temporary data saves to prevent cloning. And i doubt even you can argue with that much.
How does that prevent cloning (especially when it can be done in game anyway and wasn't even really the top concern for Pokebank) you can't make a statement, not even go into it, and claim it's irrefutable.
 

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loa said:
Yopaz said:
You seem to mistake your opinion for fact but I regard the ability to preserve my progress while still having access to all the games content as important, vital even -be it through multiple save files or by simply not overwriting the progress that matters.

Sure, some people may "get by just fine" if for example photoshop irreversably deleted your previous picture when starting a new one and you may only have 1 picture at the same time for each photoshop license, some people may "get by just fine" if wow only had 1 character slot you have to overwrite which also deletes all your items but that doesn't excuse or justify it nor does it mean people had a choice to begin with and if you're wondering why oh why I went "off topic", the pokebank adds this basic feature but for a fee which is pretty gross seeing how nintendo rolls in money thanks to this franchise and no, I do not care if it's only this and this much per month, there is just no reason for it and it can only get worse from here because I can promise you, gamefreak are the last people on earth who will do anything useful or meaningful like an official simulator in which you can use your in-game team or trading pokemon through a website and not the game with this judged by what they're already doing with the global link service.
The heart is a vital organ. Not my opinion. -the appendix is not a vital organ. Again not my opinion.

Vital means it's absolutely needed. You have failed to give a definition of vital that fits your use of it. As I said in my last post since you aren't able to give me a definition that suits your needs I will accept that you are simply overreacting and ignore you. Thank you for proving my point though.


Also don't you think it's hypocritical to dismiss my opinion because "it's just an opinion" when you have offered nothing but opinions yourself despite that I asked you to find facts to back you up? Also if it is a matter of opinions then it's hardly a vital feature.

BooTsPs3 said:
Pokebank does change that. Upload pokemon to bank. Reset save file, download them back to game. No need for a second game and hours of time trading.
I don't see how this contradicts anything I have ever said, but sure it does change things in that regard.

It is a vital feature for anyone at all interested in the competitive scene of pokemon. And that's no small number. The game is extremely limited now due to not having a ton of pokemon, and more importantly, nobody wants to go through weeks of breeding and training pokes they already have in gen V, so even those you can still get in gen VI are less usable.
If it's "vital" for just a few then it hardly fits the definition of vital. It's a great feature, but it's not a requirement to play the game.

$5 is $5 more than it should cost. It's been free every other gen. Not to mention the game already has a RRP that's ?5 (possibly more in other regions) higher than standard 3ds games. And while you could argue that there is a free trial, what about when i play through black or diamond or ruby again? I don't get my pokemon to current gen without paying.
It's been free, but also according to you it's been a process that has taken hours. Now it's a feature that saves people form a lot of time and work compared to the free options that were available. Also it saves me the money it costs to buy a new 3DS. So basically if I pay 5 dollars or (gasp!) possibly 10 in my country in order to not get a new 3DS which is currently priced 180 dollars over here.

Look you can put this any way you want. But this feature is massively important to a huge number of players. It is "vital" to their enjoyment of this game. And it was fucked up. Hugely. There shouldn't have been a wait to begin with. There shouldn't have been a cost to begin with. Now here we are, 27th of december, with no pokebank due to a problem that a fucking 12 year old would have seen coming.
Have I said this feature isn't important? Have I said I don't want this? Have I said Nintendo isn't to blame for being unable to plan the release properly? No I have not, I have even stated myself that this feature SHOULD be avaiable at this point and that it should have been so for a while now. I am not arguing that it's not important, I am not defending Nintendo either.

Now if you can explain to me why this feature is VITAL not just important but why you can't possibly play this game without Pokemon Bank then I will ignore your next point completely and assume you're overreacting. If you are willing to agree that this is simply a nice feature which is important to a lot of people then I will agree with you and retract my accusation that you are overreacting. It's up to you.
 

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loa said:
gamefreak are the last people on earth who will do anything useful or meaningful like an official simulator in which you can use your in-game team or trading pokemon through a website and not the game with this judged by what they're already doing with the global link service.
And why would they even bother doing this?

There are multiple websites that already have this accomplished, and have been doing this for years, and Gamefreak knows and does not care for it.

What is the point of that feature when you can go online and battle with that same team in game team? Global Link is just the name given to said online feature. The website itself is just some random hub with news and item trades.

Gamefreak has done many useful things for the Pokemon community.

For one, they made EV training so easy that a complete noob can do it. Which is praised around the Pokemon community.

Secondly, they made IV training something that's realistically obtainable with a couple hours of dedicated time. Something that again was only done by the most insane trainers in the community.

Third, they brought back the Pokeradar. Allowing folks to chain catch shiny Pokemon and exchange them all over the place.

Wonder trade is a great place to get started on competitive teams since those in the competitive field are nice enough to send their extras off to Wonder Trade as opposed to deleting them off the game.

Battling online has been much easier. You don't even have to go to a Pokemon Center anymore. Just connect to the internet and go.

You overlook all of these things just so you can complain and rant for basically asinine reasons. You are just being spiteful for the sake of being spiteful, and if you hated it so much then why do you continue to buy Pokemon games?
 

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Oh, wow. It's nice to see gamers going for the console that seems least abhorrent. So, yeah. I guess that's cool.
 

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Just more evidence of why you shouldn't buy a game expecting developers to keep their promise about feature updates in the future. Games should be content complete at launch or else problems such as the pokebank occur.
 

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I do want to have a better system for getting my Pokemon into one place than my current plan of "Funnel them down the line of 3rd gen to 4th gen to 5th gen". The Pokemon Bank thing could definitely help me when I get that urge to restart games...

Probably only compatible with X and Y anyway though... Black 2 being my most recent title...

Hmm, will need to read into this more when it is launched.
 

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GAunderrated said:
Just more evidence of why you shouldn't buy a game expecting developers to keep their promise about feature updates in the future. Games should be content complete at launch or else problems such as the pokebank occur.
Except for the fact that Pokemon don't go back on their promises, and it was up and running for a short time before being taken down if the Swamperts, and Zekroms flooding the game are anything to go by.

This is also excluding the fact that X and Y itself is a pretty full game, the Pokebank itself worked great when it wasn't bogged down by an overworked holiday server and the reason why they took it down was to fix the holes where illegal Pokemon were still getting through, and relieve strain on Nintendo's stressed servers.