Pokemon Dev on DLC: "I've Always Said 'No' To Paid Pokemon"

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I don't mind them adding paid, post-launch customization options or even just extra features like the bank. Paying for Pokemon, however, is just dumb. What's stopping someone from breeding it like crazy and spreading it all over? They should just do region expansions. Go to one of the old regions for another single player campaign and tons more mons to catch in the wild.
 

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Lizardon said:
I agree that adding buyable Pokemon while they have the giveaways and online trading doesn't seem like a good idea.

The only thing I wish they'd change is the length of some of the Wi-Fi and in store downloads. Some only go for a couple of weeks which I imagine would make it hard for a lot of people. Especially anyone who doesn't buy the games till later.

Whatislove said:
I don't think it's such a bad idea, to a degree, making every pokemon available to buy is a massive no-no BUT

Making the legendary/event pokemon buyable is a good idea, making these event pokemon more accessible to other regions would be welcomed.

Finding events in Japan is easy, but Australia? We had 1 eb games store doing the meloetta event per state, 6 stores for the whole country (excluding ACT), If I wanted meloetta I would have had to drive 6 hours there and 6 hours back and even this is a rare occurance because half the time we don't get event pokemon at all.
They've actually gotten a lot better with the event distribution here. We get a lot more than we use to and since 4th gen all the event legendaries have been available in one way or another.

And you're a bit off about how many stores did the Meloetta event

http://www.nintendo.com.au/files/get-meloetta-location-list.pdf

Here is the 9 page list from Nintendo for all the stores that participated in Australia and New Zealand.

I would bet most of them are metropolitan and anyone in a rural area probably missed out, but it's definitely a step in the right direction.

However looking at the pdf I linked, New Zealand only had three stores across the whole country...
My mistake, There was an event that was only in 1 store per state, I just can't remember which, it might have been the pokemon movie one actually, now that I think of it.

Meloetta was still a pain in the ass though.

I live in Newcastle, NSW - It's about 2-2.5 hours from Sydney, it's not like we are a small, rural town or anything. World class stadium, LA galaxy played our local soccer team, there's about 10 or so EB games stores and just as many JB HiFi stores (both of the stores that were doing the Meloetta event) but not 1 of them got access to the meloetta event.

The closest was a 2 hour drive away to Sydney, and the craziest part about it is, I work at JB HiFi and I talked to the EB games guys downstairs at the time, the manager said he had the equipment needed for the event but wasn't given the authority/the software to actually do the event.
 

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I wouldn't spend a dollar on a Pokémon, but I might spend money on some other sort of DLC for the game. Maybe access to an extra dungeon or something with its own entire set of additional Pokémon to catch, some puzzles to solve, and a cool extra-tough boss at the end. Heck, I'd even spend $3-$5 on that. But never on individual creatures.

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If this would lead to going back to Kanto without deleting my friend's old save of Yello- I mean Fire Red... Bring on them DLC re-visits, yo!

Otherwise, I'll be agreeing with Jim about DLC in general... which it seems they want to avoid that path into DLC territory, so at least I support their decision so far...
 

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good -.- making Pokemon buyable would only cheapen the experience, not to mention voids the point of the game entirely
 

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For years I have been playing Pokemon, and for years still I have not cared about completing my Pokedex, so even if I was offered a Jirachi or Celebi for $5 or so, I'd still turn it down. There's no way I'm going to pay money for something like that, especially since there are events that offer these Pokemon for free. Maybe I'd pay a $1... maybe.

I'm sure there are a lot of players out there that would be willing to pony up a little cash for some exclusive Pokemon outside of scheduled events, which is why paid DLC in Pokemon is such a slippery slope. It's one thing if the DLC added a new island or region or something, but just a single Pokemon is a strange idea to me.
 

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Whatislove said:
My mistake, There was an event that was only in 1 store per state, I just can't remember which, it might have been the pokemon movie one actually, now that I think of it.

Meloetta was still a pain in the ass though.

I live in Newcastle, NSW - It's about 2-2.5 hours from Sydney, it's not like we are a small, rural town or anything. World class stadium, LA galaxy played our local soccer team, there's about 10 or so EB games stores and just as many JB HiFi stores (both of the stores that were doing the Meloetta event) but not 1 of them got access to the meloetta event.

The closest was a 2 hour drive away to Sydney, and the craziest part about it is, I work at JB HiFi and I talked to the EB games guys downstairs at the time, the manager said he had the equipment needed for the event but wasn't given the authority/the software to actually do the event.
The only reason I knew that there was a fair few stores for Meloetta is because I had to look it up when it happened because the EB Games nearest to me wasn't doing it =D

Yeah I had another look at the list and it seems most of the stores are in the capital cities. Which I guess makes sense from a business perspective but sure sucks for those who can't make it. I'm really surprised that it missed Newcastle completely.

I've only moved to Perth recently from a country town, so I missed out on a lot of those events. I really have to wonder what is involved with setting up an event distribution, surely it can't be that expensive. And if it's that hard I wish they would just switch to all Wi-Fi events, give everyone a chance to get it.
 

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I wouldn't mind a trainer tower DLC. Something along the lines of emerald or crystal.

More singleplayer end game content would be awesome. I liked second gen because the game wasn't over after the elite four. I really liked that and high level trainers are fun.
 

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If nintendo did something like offered special event pokemon package deal stuff (like old event pokemon or ones that the west cant get or had a hard time getting cause tehy're through real world pokecenters) I'd probably spring for them. Hell even if each is only a dollar I'd pick and chooise and still spend a good chunk of change if they were really interesting. not while they're in store, but maybe like months later or something they say "hey, missed this event, one dollar and it can be yours". I wouldnt be opposed to that.
 

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Lizardon said:
Whatislove said:
My mistake, There was an event that was only in 1 store per state, I just can't remember which, it might have been the pokemon movie one actually, now that I think of it.

Meloetta was still a pain in the ass though.

I live in Newcastle, NSW - It's about 2-2.5 hours from Sydney, it's not like we are a small, rural town or anything. World class stadium, LA galaxy played our local soccer team, there's about 10 or so EB games stores and just as many JB HiFi stores (both of the stores that were doing the Meloetta event) but not 1 of them got access to the meloetta event.

The closest was a 2 hour drive away to Sydney, and the craziest part about it is, I work at JB HiFi and I talked to the EB games guys downstairs at the time, the manager said he had the equipment needed for the event but wasn't given the authority/the software to actually do the event.
The only reason I knew that there was a fair few stores for Meloetta is because I had to look it up when it happened because the EB Games nearest to me wasn't doing it =D

Yeah I had another look at the list and it seems most of the stores are in the capital cities. Which I guess makes sense from a business perspective but sure sucks for those who can't make it. I'm really surprised that it missed Newcastle completely.

I've only moved to Perth recently from a country town, so I missed out on a lot of those events. I really have to wonder what is involved with setting up an event distribution, surely it can't be that expensive. And if it's that hard I wish they would just switch to all Wi-Fi events, give everyone a chance to get it.
From what I understand on how Gamestop does things is that they have a weird wireless adapter thing that transfers those pokemon to your game. I'm not sure if they have uses for other games or not, but if a store doesn't have one (or never bothered to acquire one) than they can't do it. It seems though that once they have it, they don't really have to do much effort on their part. I think the lady said they just need to update it to register any new event.
 

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Many people have said this but i would be okay with them making event pokemon ok to purchase, or atleast the item to summon them, aslong as it is linked to them system or game as a whole so if i restarted for what ever reason i wouldnt have to buy again.
 

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The problem with this is that no matter how you slice it, this could easily become "buying power." No matter how well DLC pokemon are balanced, in this game it is all about team composition. Having DLC pokemon with unique typing (say, a ghost normal type, which is immune to what normally is unresisted "ghost/fighting" moves) or unique move sets could leave "vanilla" players with fewer if any options to deal with the DLCmons.

Certain event mons, like Magic Bounce Espeon, have completely reshaped the metagame, giving certain players objective advantages to others (Espeon's normal ability, Syncornize, only gives the enemy the same status condition Espeon gets, Magic bounce throws back any status move, plus all other kinds of non-damaging moves). I can't even begin to grasp what would happen if people could pay for these advantages.
 

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VanQ said:
In Pokemon X and Y they gave us the ability to personalize our trainer like an avatar. Just add a bunch of cool clothing and hairstyles to the store for 100yen each. I'd shell out for that. The day Pokemon are 100 yen each is the day I stop playing Pokemon.
Or at least the option for more hair colors. Seriously blue hair is practically a staple of the series but I can't pick it? Blasphemy.

Kidding aside I would love if they released older regions as paid dlc. I can experience a setting I love, and maybe not have to pay full game price for it again. I mean, Emerald is still going for 35 bucks a pop, that thing hasn't depreciated at all so a Hoenn DLC pack for 25 would be a steal. If there was one area I felt X and Y were a little lacking in, it would be post game content. I'd pay five bucks for that.
 

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I'm not in a position to get most event Pokémon. I probably would pay a buck or two (but no more) for them.

My Gamestop doesn't even have the wireless deal for event Pokémon, nor do the nearest 3.
 

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Expansion Pack.

Sell those! Let us go back to Unova, Kanto, Jhoto etc. New leaders, new pokemon, a bit of story. Id pay more than the average dlc for that, since it would be a true expansion pack. What did expansion packs used go for? $25-30? Id pay that.
 

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So having pokemon be available in the form of DLC is bad but making 2 slightly different versions of the same game is standard practice?

What the fuck, Nintendo?
 

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frobalt said:
So having pokemon be available in the form of DLC is bad but making 2 slightly different versions of the same game is standard practice?

What the fuck, Nintendo?
The choice of making 2 slightly different versions of the same game is to promote its trading system. Without that, what would be the point of having the trade feature?
 

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Mr Dizazta said:
frobalt said:
So having pokemon be available in the form of DLC is bad but making 2 slightly different versions of the same game is standard practice?

What the fuck, Nintendo?
The choice of making 2 slightly different versions of the same game is to promote its trading system. Without that, what would be the point of having the trade feature?
The trade feature would still make it easier to get all pokémon.

If you have a single player game, you shouldn't force the players to use a multi-player feature in order to complete the game.

It just seems to me like a cheap way to make more money.
 

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I don't know about Pokémans themselves, but I would pay $5 for the ability to have multiple saves and/or backups. I bought digital because I wanted to be able to have more than one save and a backup of my precious Pokémans in case anything went wrong and I was more than a bit annoyed to discover that not only did they disable the 3DS's built in save backup tech for X & Y, they also went to the trouble of implementing a system that prevents backup saves of any sort.

Really Nintendo? $40 for a game you're going to intentionally limit? THIS is why people pirate.

Aside from that aggravation: The other DLC I'd want is the ability to visit other regions and run the other gyms. Pokémon has always had an issue with lacking true high level content, with the highest level wild Pokés at level 60ish with nothing to do but grind the Elite 4 (Which are level 60-68 in this gen) all the way to 100.
That's something I could get behind, being able to pay for backing up a save file with boxes and items in case something happens. Pokemon bank is kinda fixing that problem, but it would be nice to send an actual save file to cloud, instead of just the Pokemon.

OT: I would be willing to pay for old event Pokemon, if they came in sets of say three for like 2 dollars, and if you want one by itself, it would be a dollar. I just want to be able to complete the Pokedex legitimately, and while I completed it in Black, I had a few Pokemon hacked by others because there was no other way to get them.