Pokemon games, Was it better during the first few generations of pokemon?

[Axle_Bullitt_19]

While game play wise they are inferior the pokemon themselves have really become rather weird and unappealing, but I have played black for a little bit and have been enjoying it so far.

 

[Reincarnatedwolfgod]

i played any of the 4th of 5th generation

the rally big issue with pokemon is the new ones it there way to many pokrmon to if you plan "catch em all". i personally abandoned this goal a long time ago; so its not a problem to me

I don't know what your problem with the designs is. The one you picked seems fine to me.

But in terms of features and basically everything about the games that aren't the Pokémon themselves, hell no it wasn't "better" during the first few generations.

Event Pokémon you can never get because Nintendo holds no events.
Inventory space limited to 20 items.
Having to manually change your PC box at a Pokémon Center and being unable to catch anything if your party and current box are both full.
Having to go to the menu every time I want to cut down a tree or surf.
Only being able to trade and battle via link cable.

Those are just a few of the inconveniences that I do not miss when playing the newer Pokémon games.

i agreed with you about the features thing.
i have played pokemon recently yellow and the managing the inventory is a pain in the ass. in a way it requires some level of strategy to manage the inventory but they didn't do that on purpose; it was just limited by technology and/or bad design

i also found a rare(not moltres some other one) pokemon while wondering victory road around but my box was full so i had kill it. i don't think ever seen anther one since then.

the game play may be stale and the new pokemon may look stupid(this one is more opinions then fact) but just about every thing else has vastly improved.

This post needs a poll.
OT: Agreed most definatley

I Agree... But of course I don't think you can add one once the thread is made... Or can I?

actually you can. just edit your post and click on the check mark box to add a poll. although only person who made the thread can do this

 

[LikeDustInTheWind]

The game and gameplay either stay the same or get better, the Pokemon designs get worse. I know there were a few strange or badly designed Pokemon in the original generations but at least 80 percent of the new ones are just completely idiotic.

 

[Coldster]

I feel that each Pokemon game gets slightly better with each copy. They just add a few pokemon, make a new region, and fix some problems from the older game. So no, the oldest ones are technically the worst. (But that doesn't mean they're bad)

 

[Strife17O7]

Er...I honestly don't know...Never actually played past Silver...
Not for lack of approval of the franchise in general...
...just migration of enthusiasm or somesuch. /:

 

[GotMalkAvian]

I think the series has gotten simultaneously deeper in a good way and unnecessarily complex. The designs for the original 150+ were fairly simple, and I have noticed the designs getting more complex since then; I still think I prefer the original red and blue group to all the others. However, with new pokemon comes greatly increased catching time and a lot of the mechanics have been refined and fine-tuned over the years.

 

[Leemaster777]

No. In my opinion, from a pure gameplay perspective, each game is better than the last.

In terms of the actual Pokémon designs? Lets just say that if the generations had come out in reverse order I fully believe people would be complaining about how stupid Ditto, Jynx and Mewtwo look whilst praising the awesome designs of Throh, Bouffalant and Scraggy.

Nostalgia is a dirty, dirty thing.

Word for word, this is my opinion.

In EVERY generation, there are designs that are great, and in every generation, there are designs that are either goofy or just plain stupid.

While I'm not intimately familiar with the newest generation yet, I did briefly look at a list of all of them, and none that I saw caused my eyeballs to bleed.

 

[Theron Julius]

There have always been bad pokemon. You can take some from every generation. Here's a good list of lame pokemon I found: http://www.1up.com/features/top-5-lamest-pokemon.

 

[hilarius117]

Playing White and I love it. At time a cringe at designs, but I guess I would do the same if Porygon was a new pokemon, or Hitmonchan. A lot of them are really cool and some such, the the sarcofigus guy. D/P was only bad to me because the balance felt off. Not really because of the pokemon. Most of the new ones in D/P were cool, but they were too few and far between. I lake being able to play through 2-4 times with varying team combos, and D/P lacked that. B/W doesnt seem to have that problem, but ill find out after a few playthroughs.

 

[DarthFennec]

151 Pokemon is just the right amount for me. Gen 2 was also great, but I would be just as happy without it. Anything beyond that isn't worth my time. Even the remakes of gen 1 (firered and leafgreen) were pretty bad, I hated the graphics and they didn't really do anything else with it so it got dull really fast. It just gets worse every time they add new stuff, I just haven't bothered.

No no no no. Each generation has polished the mechanics of the generation before as well as adding new facets (eg. Breeding, Abilities). The first generation was horribly broken and had a bad habit of not telling you things. For example, first generation told you nothing about the moves until you learned them, and even then you didn't know it's power or accuracy. It wasn't until 3rd generation that this was fully improved.

It's for precisely these reasons that I loved the first generation so much. There wasn't breeding or berries or weird types or anything, it was a nice, simple, well-organized game without all the extra bullshit stuffed in there like in the new ones. I like the fact that the first generation doesn't lead you by the hand and tell you what everything is, because it forces you to get more involved and do some research, which always drew me in more. Also, the glitches. Oh so many wonderful glitches <3

 

[Internet Kraken]

Spoiler: Dragonite

What so bad about dragonite? it's a freakin' dragon. Adorable and friendly as well.
I understand the rest you've listed.

I like dragonite to, but really, let's look at it's past two evolutions;

Spoiler: Dratini

Spoiler: Dragonair

Does it look anything like them at all? No, it doesn't. They completley changed the design of the Pokemon in the third form for no reason, which isn't indicative of good design. My point was that the old designs had a lot of flaws just live the new one, inconsistency between forms being one of them.

 

[natster43]

No the older ones are not better. People complain about all of the Pokemon looking absurd, but look at the older ones also, like Mr. Mime and Jynx and Eggxecutor. They are terrible and stupid looking, while there are also horrible ones in the new one, like the ice cream cone, Timburr and it's evolutions, and The vulture, they also have as many cool ones as the older stuff. Every game has Pokemon people do not like, and there never will be a perfect Pokemon game that everyone thinks it has the best Pokemon ever. Also Black and White definitely have the best story out of all of them.

 

[Vohn_exel]

I used to play Pokemon Red back in the day, and got all the way to the Elite Four when I got tired of it. I picked up Pearl a few years ago and I haven't stopped playing the games since. I've got Soul Silver and I plan on getting Black whenever I actually have enough money. The designs are a little different but really I believe the games have just become more and more awesome over time.

The only complaint I have about the new games going into them is that your pokemon doesn't follow you around anymore. Seriously, other then that, I have no real complaints. I got to preview it at the Mall tour (which I have short videos of on youtube, (cough hint)) and I can't wait till I can afford the game. I think the series can only go forward and up from here!

 

[Quiet Stranger]

In terms of originality yes it was better, in Pokemon Black and White there are pokemon that actually look JUSt like real animals we have now, like that one dog pokemon and that zebra one

 

[hopeneverdies]

-snip-

I want you to pretend for a moment that is 1998. You're five, six, maybe seven years old. Most people didn't have computers back then, and Gamefaqs had very few guides to go off of. The only research you could do was discussing the game with your friends or shelling out money for a guide which wouldn't come out for another year.

And how about this, you get your HM05, Flash, and you stick it on one of your 'mons. Was there a Move Deleter back in Gen 1 so that you could get rid of it? Was Flash at all helpful to you after Rock Tunnel? No and no. Cut, while used much more often, was still as weak as Tackle. It ended up sitting there in your move list forever and you couldn't do anything about it.

What if it turned out you were under-leveled? Oh dear, looks like you'll be stuck grinding for hours against wild Pokemon who aren't worth very much experience. Guess what Gen 2 added? A phone that you could register numbers so that trainers can call you for rematches. And trainers were worth far more experience.

And glitches? Most people didn't even know about the glitches until a few years later.

All the extra "bullshit" that was added? It was added because there was a lot of bullshitty things happening in Gen 1.

 

[quantumsoul]

I always assumed each new pokemon was just meant for a new generation of kids, rather than please old fans. I think that's one reason the games have changed so little and feel stale. At least to me.

I would like to be able to explore regions of the older games like gold and silver did. I never really like combat system that much but loved exploring and finding new critters. I also would like to see pokemon walking around rather than random battles. It'll never happen though.

 

[Ike Jager]

Spoiler: Dragonite

What so bad about dragonite? it's a freakin' dragon. Adorable and friendly as well.
I understand the rest you've listed.

I like dragonite to, but really, let's look at it's past two evolutions;

Spoiler: Dratini

Spoiler: Dragonair

Does it look anything like them at all? No, it doesn't. They completley changed the design of the Pokemon in the third form for no reason, which isn't indicative of good design. My point was that the old designs had a lot of flaws just live the new one, inconsistency between forms being one of them.

Aye, I see your point. Completely transforming a long, thin and mystic pokemon into a chubby, big and lovable one with a completely different scale color I may add.

 

[TerranReaper]

You must've been high or incredibly stupid if you honestly believe Gen 1's designs were the best and didn't have its flaws. So many people criticize the "Klink" evolution line (AKA the gears) as being crap when Gen 1 has god damn the Magnemite line. The trend for Gen 1 is typically either add a horn to it or add an extra unit of whatever and stick them together (EG: Magnemite, Dugtrio). Also, Cyndaquil is either the worst or the second worst fire type out of all the generations in terms of efficiency.

 

[Reincarnatedwolfgod]

Spoiler: Dragonite

What so bad about dragonite? it's a freakin' dragon. Adorable and friendly as well.
I understand the rest you've listed.

I like dragonite to, but really, let's look at it's past two evolutions;

Spoiler: Dratini

Spoiler: Dragonair

Does it look anything like them at all? No, it doesn't. They completley changed the design of the Pokemon in the third form for no reason, which isn't indicative of good design. My point was that the old designs had a lot of flaws just live the new one, inconsistency between forms being one of them.

i see you point. kinda didn't look at from that stand point
in a way i don't want evolve Dragonair when i have one. but in the end it has better stats if i allow it(also it becomes a flying gain a new weakness). your point add one more reason why not to evolve one