Pokemon is dead

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Ih8pkmn

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Christ, for someone with a name like mine, I sure like to blab about this subject alot.

Anyway, Pokemon, as a whole, is staler than a loaf of bread discovered yesterday at George Washington's House. It's more stagnant than piss left in a urinal back in ancient Rome and not discovered until the 25 century. It's TOXIC.

Now, I'm going to let you all in on a little secret:
Don't tell anyone, k?
I used to fucking LOVE these games. That was before Ruby and Sapphire came out and made me realize all of the magical little animals were just being repainted and given new nametags.



Anyway, Nintendo needs to ax this franchise, or at least stop leaving the clone brush in the hands of a retard. I mean, Fire Pigs? Sea Otters? Grass Snakes with arms? What the fuck, Nintendo? Are you even trying? I think that these guys just gave up after they came up with something that is the equivelant of GOD in animal form.

Also, why do all of the places have the SAME FUCKING SETUP? Seriously, they either mirror it, flip it on it's side, or turn it upside-down and call it New .


Then again, Originality ain't really Nintendo's strong point. They just take what makes money and run it into the ground so hard, it comes out of the other side of the Earth and crashes through fucking Pluto before it stops!

In short, Pokemon needs to be given the same brand of love as a sick animal: Take it to the vet and euthanize it.
 

Marter

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I disagree. More Pokemon games would be fine, it doesn't need to be killed off. I will agree with your point of un-originality, and that some innovation would be nice. I think that more games like XD: Gale of Darkness and Colosseum is the direction that Pokemon should head in.

I do like the gameplay innovations that each generation has brought though.

Generation 2: Breeding
Generation 3: Abilities/Natures
Generation 4: Physical & Special Split

I'm wondering if the 5th generation will be able to bring us anything like these, but I guess we'll find out.
 
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Ih8pkmn said:
Christ, for someone with a name like mine, I sure like to blab about this subject alot.

Anyway, Pokemon, as a whole, is staler than a loaf of bread discovered yesterday at George Washington's House. It's more stagnant than piss left in a urinal back in ancient Rome and not discovered until the 25 century. It's TOXIC.

Now, I'm going to let you all in on a little secret:
Don't tell anyone, k?
I used to fucking LOVE these games. That was before Ruby and Sapphire came out and made me realize all of the magical little animals were just being repainted and given new nametags.



Anyway, Nintendo needs to ax this franchise, or at least stop leaving the clone brush in the hands of a retard. I mean, Fire Pigs? Sea Otters? Grass Snakes with arms? What the fuck, Nintendo? Are you even trying? I think that these guys just gave up after they came up with something that is the equivelant of GOD in animal form.

Also, why do all of the places have the SAME FUCKING SETUP? Seriously, they either mirror it, flip it on it's side, or turn it upside-down and call it New .


Then again, Originality ain't really Nintendo's strong point. They just take what makes money and run it into the ground so hard, it comes out of the other side of the Earth and crashes through fucking Pluto before it stops!

In short, Pokemon needs to be given the same brand of love as a sick animal: Take it to the vet and euthanize it.
Em you don't like it don't play it. There are plenty of people who feel that it is not stale and if they want to play it let them simple as that.
 

AboveUp

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I've never seen anyone try to copy Yahtzee's ranting style in a single post quite as hard as you have just done. Well done in derailing yourself mid-sentence to create a pseudo-intelligent longer post.

On topic however, I have to disagree. Pokemon is far from dead. The games are still fun to play, and as long as they are, I don't see a problem with them "releasing the same thing over and over". There's a reason they keep doing that. I'll let you in on it, okay? It'll be our secret.

Because it works.

If it didn't work, do you think so many people would still be playing it to this day? I think not.
 

Amnestic

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Fire Pigs? Sea Otters? Grass Snakes with arms?
Red bipedal fire lizards? Blue bipedal water turtles? Whatever the fuck Bulbasaur is (seriously it's just a 'thing' with a plant bulb on it's back. What is it meant to even be)?

Get over your nostalgia. The starts in every generation are either a) fucking weird or b) uninspired.

Also, why do all of the places have the SAME FUCKING SETUP?
How do you mean? Gyms? Pokédex? Starters? What?

Your points are barely there, mostly just bleating "Whaah! Nintendo! Whaah! Nostalgia! Whaah!"

Some things in pokémon should recieve criticism (Hello HMs, please place yourself on the end of this pitchfork). A common misconception by those wearing rose-tinted glasses is that pokémon designs somehow turned stupid at some point past Gen 1 (though it differs from person to person). They didn't. They've always had some cool, some adorable, some uninspired and some fucking stupid ones. No matter what generation you're talking about.
 

CK76

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The latest edition (Heart Gold/Soul Silver) has sold 7.4 million copies and counting worldwide.

There is no way Nintendo is going to stop making these games.
 

The Hairminator

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Pokémon died a while a go, sure. But it's still very much alive in my heart! *Goes to watch the original anime while crying tears of nostalgia*
 

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I still enjoy Pokemon. Sure it hasen't changed, but change isn't always a good thing. Look at Sonic, it certainly has changed right? It hasen't changed for the better, but it certainly changed.

Also, Pokemon is done countless times, but so are a lot of the "Greatest" hits.

Mario games are normally the same as their predesscors with the exception of a few works, yet people eat them up like candy. Staying the same isn't a bad thing.

Zelda is usally in the same format. A couple dungeons, usally one boss is a dragon of some kind and the game ends with you killing Ganondorf and rescuing Zelda.

That is my opinon on most of the Nintendo franchises. A more practical reason for keeping Pokemon around is that the Franchise is almost as big as the Madden games and are EXTREMELY heavy sellers.

The Day nintendo axes off one of it's biggest Franchises because a couple of people believe they are being "Unorginal" is the day Hell freezes over.
 

Amnestic

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The Hairminator said:
Pokémon died a while a go, sure. But it's still very much alive in my heart! *Goes to watch the original anime while crying tears of nostalgia*

Just for you ;)
 

OutcastBOS

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Amnestic said:
The Hairminator said:
Pokémon died a while a go, sure. But it's still very much alive in my heart! *Goes to watch the original anime while crying tears of nostalgia*

Just for you ;)
Although I liked the 2nd Johto theme better, I still miss the original anime :'( WHY DID THEY HAVE TO CHANGE THE VOICES?!
 

Zenron

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This is pretty much what Nintendo has always done. They bring out a new franchise and they do the same thing until people get sick of it. But that's the thing, people don't get sick of it, they keep eating that up like a fat kid in a bakery(I can copy yahtzee's style as well D:). So Nintendo bring out pretty much the same game over and over again, because they can. It makes them money with a minimal amount of production time.

So whether these games are stale or not is out of the question. They're going to keep making these games whether you like it or not.

Although needless to say, they need to be a least a bit innotive at some stage. People can't possibly buy that forever.
 

Ickorus

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Whilst i don't really understand the fascination with Pokemon i'll give you one of my favourite lines:

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Every time they release a new game it sells well so they keep with the same formula and make ungodly amounts of money doing so.
 

Goremocker

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Hell...because this thread means so little to me I just skimmed through.Look this thread has been done before,and my answer is always:"Pokemon Silver was the best,after that it started to suck." Donno why,that's just how I think.Now good day to you.

Edit:One more thing,the show died when the voices changed.
 

KeyMaster45

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You know, I lost interest in the Pokemon franchise right after Yellow came out...my interest was once again piqued when I found out you could get a starter pokemon that was essentially a monkey with its butt on fire...I mean come on....that's just freaking awesome. Launch flaming poo at your adversaries, cause we all know that's probably what it would really do.

Granted I haven't bought any of the newer games that have come, same game different setting. I agree with Marter; it could advance its self in many ways to bring back those of us from the starter generation but Nintendo just moves a bit slow on that aspect. (Yet for some reason they can build an entire theme park dedicated to Pokemon *vomits*)
 

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Fanboyism vs nostalgia...
Epic.

OT: The first starters were the most boring of all. Dragons suck. They have been done in every way, shape, and form. They have even been done ironically(probably). There is no reason for them to be used anymore.

And to further my fanboy rant, the new ones aren't repeats of the old ones(except Minun and Plusis, but that's all). Some of them got new evolutions, but otherwise nothing else.

And saying that the games don't add anything new shows how much you've been paying attention.
 

Dragonforce525

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My solution is to just not buy the games, I bought Fire Red simply to see the original with better gameplay/graphics, but besides that I refuse to buy another crappy handheld pokemon game, unless they decide to stop being lazy and release an actual 3D version of Pokemon Fire Red for the Wii, I'm just gonna boycott it, but I'm pretty confident my wait will be a long one as making games the fans ask for doesn't seem to be Nintendo's main focus, not so long as their crazy fanbase continue eating their shit and calling it chocolate.
 
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Those starting metaphors were God-damn awful Mr. OP, have you no shame?

Eukaryote said:
I disagree entirely, all sorts of new battle mechanics have been introduced that make it much more competitive in PvP. Also, some of the new Pokemon are really cool, I'll bet you didn't like ALL of the original 151 either(I'm looking at you Mr. Mime and Jynx).
I don't think anyone really likes mimes.
 

Kukakkau

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Someone likes Yahtzee a little too much...

Pokemon is not dead - MILLIONS of it's fans are still curious about the new games that come out and what they'll bring. Hell I bought a DS JUST for soul silver since it was a remake of my favourite generation and I wanted to see what they'd done with it.

Yes the pokemon design is going too far and looking ridiculous but every new gen makes you look for a new team. And you have to try and get pokemon you actually like + have good types for your team.

New game = new experimentation
 

V8 Ninja

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A few things that you got wrong;

#1. Nintendo doesn't make the games. GameFreak does.

#2. You neglect to mention that there are already over 500 different Pokemon designs that already exist. You think that you could create something original and not stupid after creating 500 other designs? You, my good friend, are what can only be described as "Unthoughtful", or "Stupid" if you can't comprehend intellectual dialog.

#3. You thinking that you can somehow stop Nintendo's money-train by ranting on a internet forum.

While I agree with the whole "Pokemon is [insert word here that has the prefix 'un']" argument, there's no point in trying to convince people that the games need an extreme revamp when we all know that the next game will already sell millions, even if said game doesn't exist yet.