Police pepper spray 8 year old

[Brandon237]

Damn, that kid is VIOLENT! And admits, he knows what he did was wrong and JUSTIFIES what the police did. The mother just couldn't accept it. And the third time? Police. Force. Justified.

Anyone is armed, you are allowed to incapacitate them.

 

[TilMorrow]

If the police were to believed, the kid was a potential threat. I've seen people go into rages like this and they can be pretty dangerous and hurt people badly. However, if he had dropped the stick by then, then the police were in the wrong and shouldn't have done that. Plus now that I think about it, spraying the already dangerous and ticked off kid with something that would annoy him even more was a really stupid course of action.

Captcha: rtively Quinones.

 

[XxSummonerxX]

The kid said he deserved it.
The principal, or superintendant or whatever said he deserved it.
The head of police (whatever his rank was) said he deserved it.
The interviewer seems to think he deserved it.
The police have no doubt what they were doing was unjustified.
He has a history of violent behaviour.
He was swinging a weapon, it might have just been a blunt stick, but it was still a deadly weapon, a baseball bat is a deadly weapon.
He was threatening to kill someone.

Where is the "IT WASN'T JUSTIFIED! HE WAS ONLY 8!" coming from?

 

[MikeOfThunder]

I think that falls under excessive force. It's an 8 year old, he may not be fully aware of his actions and what he could do... but he's 8! He's probably not even strong enough to hurt someone with that stick he had.

The important word in this being "probably".

The thing is, he COULD have hurt someone. A person, no matter what age, threatening to kill someone and wielding a weapon is a threat to those around them. The police simply stopped him.

"he may not be fully aware of his actions" - Doesn't make the situation any less violent or dangerous.

The chances are that he just went into a wild rage and he wouldn't have done much harm to anyone, but he did need to be stopped and the police did that. He wasn't hurt, but he was disarmed.

 

[Aphex Demon]

Little shit deserved it. Smack the *****.

 

[jackpipsam]

if this keeps on going on then maybe more drastic things need to be put into place

 

[googleback]

in that instance i think they were justified. its not like a normal tantrum is it.

 

[Random berk]

If the police were to believed, the kid was a potential threat. I've seen people go into rages like this and they can be pretty dangerous and hurt people badly. However, if he had dropped the stick by then, then the police were in the wrong and shouldn't have done that. Plus now that I think about it, spraying the already dangerous and ticked off kid with something that would annoy him even more was a really stupid course of action.

Captcha: rtively Quinones.

Spraying the kid with pepper spray would do a hell of a lot more than just annoy him. There's a reason the police use that stuff to subdue aggressive suspects.

 

[Zac Smith]

"I wanted to get something sharp if they come out" Thats enough to spray the kid

 

[Gottesstrafe]

My first reaction when reading the article was to laugh out loud. Does that make me a bad person?

As an outsider I harbor no ill will to the officers. The kid has a record, admits to having anger issues, and was threatening his teachers' lives. Pepper spray is non lethal and designed to subdue quickly while minimizing potential damage inflicted to both parties in an extended physical confrontation, and more preferable to, say, a baton or taser. What really makes me wonder, though, is what set the kid off and how two teachers failed to subdue an 8 year old (alright, so he's a little big for his age). Smells to me like cowardice in the face of a potential lawlsuit "Oh no, he restrained my child from tearing up the classroom by grabbing his arms too tightly! Child abuse!" I'd like to see the kid try that in an old fashioned Catholic school, under a particularly old and cantankerous nun brandishing a ruler like a riding crop.

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By the time police arrived, young Aidan was in a full-blown meltdown. He had ripped molding from the wall and tossed chairs and a TV cart around the classroom. He had grabbed a stick and chased his teachers into the office, where they locked themselves in. ?I wanted to make something sharp,? he told NBC News. ?I was so mad at them.? At one point, police allege, he warned his teachers, ?If you come out, you?re gonna die!?

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[Exia91]

It's pepper spray, it's not like they shot him, he'll get over it and learn a valuable lesson, murder people in an alley where no on can see you, Location Location Location.

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Justified, If the boy was wielding a weapon, whether it be sharp or blunt, I would not get anywhere near him for the sake of my own health. I'd pepperspray him, indeed.
The mom looks like she needs some parenting classes or something. Seriously, I big dislike by me against those new laws that are against spanking your kid (The Netherlands). It is the best way to raise kids. Doing wrong? Feel pain. You'll stop doing it soon enough. Human beings don't like being hurt.

 

[MindBullets]

Sounds like he needed to be stopped before he hurt someone. Better this than something causing permanent damage.

 

[Angry_squirrel]

The kid is 8. It's not exactly difficult for grown men to restrain an 8 year old, it's not like he had a knife or anything. And he's got anger issues yes, but consider where those anger issues might come from? I'd say school is a pretty safe bet. Although a terrible mother would be another likely reason.

The police used unnecessary force.

 

[vikeif]

I think that falls under excessive force. It's an 8 year old, he may not be fully aware of his actions and what he could do... but he's 8! He's probably not even strong enough to hurt someone with that stick he had.

oh for fuck sake, his ass will be fine. Children are a lot more resilient then our old asses. By nature, they're bones are harder to beak, the body haven't begun the cycle of breaking down like adults, and it's just pepper spray! shit is just painful, getting sand in you eyes is more damaging... Excessive force my ass... I got my ass beat for saying shit monkey when I was five, little shit got off easy.

 

[vikeif]

The kid is 8. It's not exactly difficult for grown men to restrain an 8 year old, it's not like he had a knife or anything. And he's got anger issues yes, but consider where those anger issues might come from? I'd say school is a pretty safe bet. Although a terrible mother would be another likely reason.

The police used unnecessary force.

HA! unnecessary!? If I'd had done that, my own mother would have beat me blind, and way I see it, that mace is gonna wear off far sooner than the ass beating from his parent and the mental scaring of the therapy that they are gonna force him into till he thinks he is a murder beast that should never see light of day.

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[Queen Michael]

I think it was justified. If you attack people with a stick and say you're going to kill them, then you have to take the consequences. I'm sure people can find things to complain about with the police's behaviour, but remember that hindsight is 20/20. Let's not forget that the kid was the one who started it.

 

[Angry_squirrel]

The kid is 8. It's not exactly difficult for grown men to restrain an 8 year old, it's not like he had a knife or anything. And he's got anger issues yes, but consider where those anger issues might come from? I'd say school is a pretty safe bet. Although a terrible mother would be another likely reason.

The police used unnecessary force.

HA! unnecessary!? If I'd had done that, my own mother would have beat me blind, and way I see it, that mace is gonna wear off far sooner than the ass beating from his parent and the mental scaring of the therapy that they are gonna force him into till he thinks he is a murder beast that should never see light of day.

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"mental scaring of the therapy"? Really? I think therapy would be a good thing, kid obviously has a lot of pent up anger and therapy might help him deal with that.
All I'm saying is that pepper spray was really unnecessary, any police officer who isn't capable of restraining an 8 year old needs to find a new line of work.

 

[Amarok]

Kids shouldn't get a free ride on anything. Little moppets hiding behind their cuteness (though having said that the kid in this video isn't making any excuses)

I say spray 'em, spray 'em hard.

 

[Kinguendo]

"Hes got a white flag!" - South Park

Its a freaking stick people, being used by a child. Do you know what you do? Take the stick away from him, just grab it. Whats he going to do? Pull out his well hidden shotgun? Or make his satellite shoot a lazer at you because he is clearly a criminal mastermind and you can never know what 8 YEAR OLDS are capable of?!

Seriously, how scared are you guys that an 8 year old poses a threat. No more little league baseball... cant just GIVE children bats, they might violently hit a ball with it or something! No more ice creams, those cones are pointy! Have you gone to restuarants lately? They are just arming children with knives and forks... what are they trying to do? Start a child army to take over the world?!

My advice to all police officers out there... if you are so cowardly that children register as threats to you then quit, its likely that you will come face to face with bigger things than children in your line of work.

 

[vikeif]

The kid is 8. It's not exactly difficult for grown men to restrain an 8 year old, it's not like he had a knife or anything. And he's got anger issues yes, but consider where those anger issues might come from? I'd say school is a pretty safe bet. Although a terrible mother would be another likely reason.

The police used unnecessary force.

HA! unnecessary!? If I'd had done that, my own mother would have beat me blind, and way I see it, that mace is gonna wear off far sooner than the ass beating from his parent and the mental scaring of the therapy that they are gonna force him into till he thinks he is a murder beast that should never see light of day.

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"mental scaring of the therapy"? Really? I think therapy would be a good thing, kid obviously has a lot of pent up anger and therapy might help him deal with that.
All I'm saying is that pepper spray was really unnecessary, any police officer who isn't capable of restraining an 8 year old needs to find a new line of work.

well ok it's not really the therapy but how people will treat him after this mostly, I would know they stuck me in it for punch some jerk at the lunch table for pouring milk on my pb&j

"All I'm saying is that pepper spray was really unnecessary, any police officer who isn't capable of restraining an 8 year old needs to find a new line of work."

So you want a 250lbs man to pin an 8 year old kid with police standard take down methods? Did you miss the news report where a cop tackled a running man and almost kill em? Mace DOESN'T DO PHYSICAL HARM, IT JUST HURTS!(sand in your eye is more damaging.) Maybe you want to see a grown man attack a hyper active brat with a stick, I rather see some efficiency