Political correctness is just useless. All it really does is jump around the problem (i.e insulting people). Plus, interestingly, American Indians hate the term "Native American".
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This was my first though. I mean... wont this teach you to (EDIT: hate was too strong a word) separate gays?Bobic said:
Also... I can kinda see why you want Native Americans to be called that, cause both NAs and Indians get pissed if you call them one of the other. At least... I get pissed when somoene calls me Indian after I explain the difference and that I prefer Native American descent.
Though... I think the worst thing I ever heard I was supposed to call someone was you cant call small people (midgets, short people, dwarves) those words, and you're supposed to refer to them as "Vertically-Challenged".
So the first time I did that, I said it to a friend and he looked at me and it was basically like calling a black (why yes, I will say that, what do you want me to call them, overly pigmented?) the N word.
Wait a minute
Does this mean if you call someone the black sheep of the family, we're suppposed to call them the rainbow sheep of the family?FamoFunk said:
It's simply the blindly bullshitting-in-ths-sandpit refusing to accept that certain terms are offensive that is annoying to me.
The suffix "-man" is largely responsible for removing women from formal history. Various other terms are used as terms of abuse in short order by a large percentage of the population.
I'm afraid that I believe far more in being polite and being respectful to people than being concerned for my own linguistic static state. People adopt new items of vocabulary all the time, and if it's for the sake of respect to someone's dignity then it's for a much more explicable reason than great swathes of linguistic change in present-day English.
The suffix "-man" is largely responsible for removing women from formal history. Various other terms are used as terms of abuse in short order by a large percentage of the population.
I'm afraid that I believe far more in being polite and being respectful to people than being concerned for my own linguistic static state. People adopt new items of vocabulary all the time, and if it's for the sake of respect to someone's dignity then it's for a much more explicable reason than great swathes of linguistic change in present-day English.
No one has said they hate it because they cannot be racist etc. to someone. I would never dream of just going up to a Black person and going "you ******" or someone in a wheelchair "you retard"Kortney said:
But when it comes to the point, here in the UK, I feel too awkward or scared to call a Black person Black or Asian person Asian in fear of being called racist or someone throwing the racist card at me. We have a problem, thanks to PC.
I'm largely against political correctness, just because I don't think it actually DOES anything. It's more there to make it appear like we're taking great steps in combatting racism, sexism, etc. If someone truly has an issue with a group, they still believe it despite political correctness, they're just not vocal about it. So which would you like, vocal racists/sexists/whatever that we can clearly see are idiots, or quiet ones that could very well end up in positions of power where they could actually act against the group they dislike?
Here's a bit of a metaphor for you. Let's say you murder someone in your house, and the blood gets all over the walls. Painting over it doesn't change the fact that the blood is still there.
Here's a bit of a metaphor for you. Let's say you murder someone in your house, and the blood gets all over the walls. Painting over it doesn't change the fact that the blood is still there.
Someone who is visually impaired is ugly, not blind. Anyway the term "vision impaired" is used because there are people who are "legally blind" but can still see stuff so it is more accurate to say "vision impaired" rather than the somewhat misleading "blind". Anyway again, vision impaired is someone who can't see too good or at all, visually impaired is an ugly person.
This is exactly my problem. You seem to fail to realise that before that, minorities in England had to put up with people coming up to them and calling them "Niggers" or "retards" or in my case: "sand niggers". It happened on the television, in politics and in schools. Political correctness has (for a very large part) stopped most of this. And if a consequence of that is now you feel a bit awkward when dealing with minorities, then so be it. It's certainly a better trade off.FamoFunk said:
It really winds me up.
Well, I dunno what the Escapist thinks about it, but I know alot of people, self included, say this:
Fuck political correctness.
Fuck political correctness.
I agree with TC. But the one that gets me is "African-American". So, if you're a black Englishman, and you move to America, wouldn't you be offended by someone calling you "African-American" since you're not American? Just one example that I can come up with of how stupid some political correctness terms are.
It's acceptable, to a degree. It's like drinking alcohol - sure, you can have a few drinks, but you go overboard and you just look like an ass.
Hey... That actually worked...
Anyways, I think it's starting to become a little bit redundant. Yes, it's bad to call a mentally handicapped person a retard, because they can, and probably will take offense to it. You can call your friend, or yourself a retard, as long as present company doesn't exactly bathe in holy water (OH HO). I was in english last semester, and we went over PC.
My reaction?
HOLY SHIT.
It was Little Red Riding Hood, re-written for political correctness. It wouldn't even bother me so much if this shit DIDN'T ACTUALLY EXIST, but it does. Suddenly Grandma was a sporting sixty year old that only ate healthy foods - and nothing non-nutritional because she was a woman and women don't do anything wrong, including eat sweets. Irrevocably, I found myself dumbfounded by the utter idiocy involved in writing this trash.
Me: Little Red shouldn't go into the forest alone because the wolf represents danger and that's bad for children!
Editor: No! She's a young girl and can handle herself because women are competent and men don't have the right to push them around!
Me: What the fuck are you talking about? This is a dangerous animal! It doesn't matter what gender she is!
Editor: THE WOLF IS MALE, AND LITTLE RED IS A GIRL! HE SAYS THAT SHE SHOULDN'T BE ALONE IN THE FOREST, THAT'S SEXIST!!!!!!!!
Me: ...
And that's about when the rifle comes out.
I dunno, I can't stand any of this non-sensical bullshit, but people seem to find every reason to get pissed off.
Take the chick that made Santa say, "Ha, ha, ha," instead of, "Ho, ho, ho."
Why? She claimed he was talking about the cavernous nature of her interior components.
... He probably was, but for god's sake, what the hell?
Hey... That actually worked...
Anyways, I think it's starting to become a little bit redundant. Yes, it's bad to call a mentally handicapped person a retard, because they can, and probably will take offense to it. You can call your friend, or yourself a retard, as long as present company doesn't exactly bathe in holy water (OH HO). I was in english last semester, and we went over PC.
My reaction?
HOLY SHIT.
It was Little Red Riding Hood, re-written for political correctness. It wouldn't even bother me so much if this shit DIDN'T ACTUALLY EXIST, but it does. Suddenly Grandma was a sporting sixty year old that only ate healthy foods - and nothing non-nutritional because she was a woman and women don't do anything wrong, including eat sweets. Irrevocably, I found myself dumbfounded by the utter idiocy involved in writing this trash.
Me: Little Red shouldn't go into the forest alone because the wolf represents danger and that's bad for children!
Editor: No! She's a young girl and can handle herself because women are competent and men don't have the right to push them around!
Me: What the fuck are you talking about? This is a dangerous animal! It doesn't matter what gender she is!
Editor: THE WOLF IS MALE, AND LITTLE RED IS A GIRL! HE SAYS THAT SHE SHOULDN'T BE ALONE IN THE FOREST, THAT'S SEXIST!!!!!!!!
Me: ...
And that's about when the rifle comes out.
I dunno, I can't stand any of this non-sensical bullshit, but people seem to find every reason to get pissed off.
Take the chick that made Santa say, "Ha, ha, ha," instead of, "Ho, ho, ho."
Why? She claimed he was talking about the cavernous nature of her interior components.
... He probably was, but for god's sake, what the hell?
I find it odd that no one seems to care if I'm offended. I can be called white or a cracker, and no one will lift a finger. Calling someone a cracker is essentially calling someone a slave driver, while calling someone a ****** is essentially calling them one who is oppressed into slavery unfairly. What sounds more offensive?
I call Indians Natives, Black people African American, don't use gay or retarded as an insult, and to be on the safe side, I'll use the term "little person". Anything beyond that is asinine. PC is just a way for white people to feel less guilty.
When I say white people, I mean people who act white. You know, those smug assclowns who sip wine and watch Dr. Phil in their snuggies. To be honest, I hate white people more than any nationality or country. Does anyone care? Nope.
I call Indians Natives, Black people African American, don't use gay or retarded as an insult, and to be on the safe side, I'll use the term "little person". Anything beyond that is asinine. PC is just a way for white people to feel less guilty.
When I say white people, I mean people who act white. You know, those smug assclowns who sip wine and watch Dr. Phil in their snuggies. To be honest, I hate white people more than any nationality or country. Does anyone care? Nope.
That don't fly with me, sorry.
Like this teacher in high school told me that using the work Mankind sets women back thousands of years and makes them seem like a common pet...not sure how that makes sense, silly Feminazi.
I'm all for equal rights believe me, but theres no shelters for men, men can pretty much never claim rape on a woman, we just get told to suck it up.