So, is this about Poland and LGBT rights, or religion?
Or, is it both? I mean, shock of all shocks, religion makes otherwise rational people behave irrationally.
ObsidianJones said:
So why hate Religion for that reason? Hate the people who are twisting it.
Not naming names here, but when one's religion gives you instructions on how to treat certain people certain ways, and those ways aren't pleasant, one can ask how they're "twisting" it as opposed to following a fundamentalist interpretation.
If the 'fundamentals' of one's religion leads you to acting like monsters, then it strikes me as there being some pretty fucked up things with said religion.
Satinavian said:
I don't know how that's worse than 'be good and you'll receive riches in heaven' from Christianity and Islam.
Both far better than
"poor people are poor because they get punished for their bad character and rich people are rich because they get rewarded in this life already and certainly must have earned it somehow"[/quote]
Really?
The predication of Christianity (and I assume Islam and Judaism to some extent) is "believe in God/Jesus, or otherwise, you're going to Hell." Doesn't matter if you're a good samaritan if you don't follow that faith, you're screwed. I guess everyone who lived and died before the missionaries reached them just had the misfortune of growing up in the wrong part of the world.
I'd take the system of karma over that frankly. Or "good thoughts, good deeds" from Zoroastrianism.
Dreiko said:
This to me reeks of religion. In fact, the odd thing is how you can have churches which aren't similarly anti gay if they're Catholics. This is why I don't malign all those muslim countries, at leas they're not hypocticial with their bronze age ideas and don't try to pretend they're living with modern sensibilities like some western churches try to.
Not gay, so maybe I can't comment, but even if Christian/Catholic churches are being hypocritical, I'd still call that preferable to being able to act on one's prejudice with impunity.