[politics] Sharpie Man - How does it feel to be an American under an insecure president?

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For all Americans on this board, how does it feel to have a guy this insecure as a president?

It seems that no week goes by without some sort of incident or thing to report on that puts the current president or members of his administration in bad light.
 

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After 3+ years of listening to idiotic, occasionally racist garbage spew from the man's cake hole, I can't be bothered to even read more then the quotes much anymore. I'm honestly more shocked when I hear he said something halfway decent and intelligent, which granted, doesn't happen very often.

It's sad to say we've reached a point where I've had to set my standards to "Drunk Homeless guy screaming on the bus" for the president, but that's the world we live in now(Before it was just "Politician Cynicism").

I do occasionally chuckle because I grew up in the 1990's and I remember how the GOP constantly criticized Clinton because of his dishonesty(as opposed to every other presidents dishonesty) and pledged to restore integrity to the White House. How's that going for you, Republicans?

I look forward to someday having a leader who, well, tries to at least pretend to be a decent human being and that they care about the country, rather then just enternally pandering to the cult that adores the ground he walks on and obligingly snaps up his merchandise. Being halfway competent would also be nice.
 
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I'm legitimately trying to become a Canadian.

I've never joked about that. I talk to my family and my friends in efforts to convince them to come with me. I was originally leaving because this country is literally not safe for me before with the police brutality. It was a minor safety precaution.

Now I'm bombarded with people telling me that they 'didn't have a problem before, but since a few people started to kneel at a football game, they started to listen to Alt-right news more because it was so infuriating to have to deal with those politics'.

A country full of people that embraces potentially bigoted ideals because a few stars use their limited power to bring attention to police misuse of power is a country that is damned.

A country full of people that will praise a man poisoning their drinking water [https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/12/climate/trump-administration-rolls-back-clean-water-protections.html], heat up the earth quicker by rolling back emissions regulations [https://www.nytimes. com/2019/08/20/climate/trump-auto-emissions-rollback-disarray.html], limiting the rights of LGBTQ citizens [https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-war-on-lgbtq-americans-is-ramping-up_n_5d5d77aee4b0701d280ca532], minorities [https://www.npr.org/2019/07/31/747006108/a-new-trump-rule-could-weaken-a-civil-rights-era-housing-discrimination-law], and women's rights [https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/08/trump-administration-rule-religious-belief-discrimination-lgbtq-unmarried-pregnant/]... just to stick it to 'em liberals and to be able to keep your AR-15s is sickening.

Unequivocally sickening.

I was completely disillusioned with a country that thinks it's ok for police to treat citizens like they do. But now, this is a country full of people that gleefully claps their hands like babes as their man-child-in-cheif burns the world just as long as they can say they were on the side with the Torch.

A country full of people that denying of science, reasoning, and proof because it doesn't sit well with their feelings.

Full of people who think nothing of their elected officials stripping their fellow Americans of the representations and freedoms by clever redistrcting and gerrymandering. They will be fine denying fellow citizens of those very freedoms and representations they claim to hold dear as long as it positively effects the original people to which I referred.

People who will have to answer to their grandchildren one day, the mess that they bestowed upon them, and have to justify themselves.

And they won't. They'll say they couldn't have known. That the other side was so untrustworthy they couldn't believe them. Or that it was necessary to make sure that other side didn't win. Or... more likely than not... tell them to stop complaining because they didn't want to hear it.

This country has made me question the efficacy of democracy. We don't just hold ideals in our elections, we hold the fate of the world. And a good deal of us will hoot and holler in absolute triumph when a man sets forth actions to bring the very Earth down around our ears because he says "This will make those whiny babies sad".

And that's justification enough.
 

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We survived George W, we'll survive this. It'll hurt. It'll be embarrassing, but we will and I'm losing fucks by the year for anything, really. I'm already considered an illegal immigrant, a communist, a racist, a neo-nazi, and an SJW by my own country, so my bucket of fucks is just about empty.
 

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ObsidianJones said:
And a good deal of us will hoot and holler in absolute triumph when a man sets forth actions to bring the very Earth down around our ears because he says "This will make those whiny babies sad".
There's a reason for that sad state, however. Those "whiny babies" worked day and night to slag on people for their "microaggressions", called for death to "cis white scum", and shut down discourse left and right with even regular unpolitical people because they were 'racist' for whatever that means anymore. When you call people scum just for the sin of being born white or not being upper class urban elite, or not the correct minority, PEOPLE TEND TO GET PRETTY IRRATIONAL ABOUT IT, and they got irrational enough to put the first blowhard who came along and said they weren't guilty of the original sin of being white and 'privledged'. Trump just happened to be the one who won the pony.

Liberals fucked up. WE shit the bed and Trump's lunacy is the harvest we've sewn. It shouldn't have been this way, but it'll keep being this way until our optics and the establishment get it's fucking head out of it's ass!
 

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Smithnikov said:
ObsidianJones said:
And a good deal of us will hoot and holler in absolute triumph when a man sets forth actions to bring the very Earth down around our ears because he says "This will make those whiny babies sad".
There's a reason for that sad state, however. Those "whiny babies" worked day and night to slag on people for their "microaggressions", called for death to "cis white scum", and shut down discourse left and right with even regular unpolitical people because they were 'racist' for whatever that means anymore. When you call people scum just for the sin of being born white or not being upper class urban elite, or not the correct minority, PEOPLE TEND TO GET PRETTY IRRATIONAL ABOUT IT, and they got irrational enough to put the first blowhard who came along and said they weren't guilty of the original sin of being white and 'privledged'. Trump just happened to be the one who won the pony.

Liberals fucked up. WE shit the bed and Trump's lunacy is the harvest we've sewn. It shouldn't have been this way, but it'll keep being this way until our optics and the establishment get it's fucking head out of it's ass!
You talk like if the establishment wasn't conservative...
 
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Smithnikov said:
There's a reason for that sad state, however. Those "whiny babies" worked day and night to slag on people for their "microaggressions", called for death to "cis white scum", and shut down discourse left and right with even regular unpolitical people because they were 'racist' for whatever that means anymore. When you call people scum just for the sin of being born white or not being upper class urban elite, or not the correct minority, PEOPLE TEND TO GET PRETTY IRRATIONAL ABOUT IT, and they got irrational enough to put the first blowhard who came along and said they weren't guilty of the original sin of being white and 'privledged'. Trump just happened to be the one who won the pony.

Liberals fucked up. WE shit the bed and Trump's lunacy is the harvest we've sewn. It shouldn't have been this way, but it'll keep being this way until our optics and the establishment get it's fucking head out of it's ass!
Two reasons why that doesn't work.

1.) I didn't say those things. The vast majority of people on this forum didn't say those things. The vast majority of people in the United States didn't say those things. I will not say it didn't happen. We all know it did. But the volume of people who are saying that who are liberal compared to the liberals who are minding their business and living their lives like everyone else? It's not even close. There is a small fraction of democrats and liberals who are doing that vs the vast majority of Social Democrats (like I call the Fiscal Republicans) who are thinking about the Nation instead of their street.

So the response to a widely-spoke about (but over-exaggerated misrepresentation of a whole) overreaction of a few lead to an overcorrection that literally will have devasating consequences to the World Entire. They've actually chose to be the cartoon-ish villain the overreaction of the few painted them as. That's like me going "You know what? Everyone just sees my color and thinks all these dangerous things about me... Fine, I will become a street thug and I will go rob and loot people."

No one would buy that. Which actually leads me to my second point.

2.) There's a laundry list of things that are still being done to everyone. To everyone. If black people said "Fuck it, if my nation and fellow citizens don't think we're worth protecting via same and balanced rules, let's completely exist out of the law"... will the rest of the nation look at themselves and say "You know what? This was our fault. If we just listen to them and not accuse them of things and just gave them the equal protection under the law, this wouldn't have happened"?

Fuck no. The rest of the nation wouldn't care. They would call it an excuse and say Black People are just trying to get away with shit.

If Women had enough of people telling them what they can or can't do with their bodies, 80 percent of them move to the Southwestern states and forced men out the state via elections and the like... would Male America take a step back and think "God. They were just asking for rights about what to do with their own body, better pay, and not have to plead for anyone to listen to them over sexual assault. And of COURSE it's irritating to constantly being ignored, being summed up by their body and the pleasing-ness of it, and living in fear that any person who walks next to them could over power them with little recourse. I understand the New Nation of Womyoning (I was going for 'Women' and 'Wyoming', Did that read?) and hope for a thousand years of proper rule".

Again, hell no. That wouldn't fly.. but I kind want to see it done.

I'm told that it's egregious that the Holiest of all things, Football, was tainted with politics for matters that actually affect around 70 percent of players. Yet none of the so-called fans of these people seem to care because 'they didn't do it so they shouldn't have to be subjected to it'.

Interesting idea. However, simultaneously, I have to suffer a giant orange man-child who lies so much that in August, it's past 12,000 [https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-washington-post-fact-checker-figure_n_5d526ff0e4b0c63bcbecbbea] statements for something I haven't done? Who wrecks the environment and lowers protections for workers [https://prospect.org/article/workers-friend-heres-how-trump-has-waged-his-war-on-workers]?

Nope. Sorry. That doesn't compute. At worst, for a few years, These Cis-White 'Scum' as you mentioned felt like what it feels to be a woman, LGBTQ, or a minority. And their response was to burn it all down while putting their fingers in their ears so they don't have to listen to anyone's issues but their own. I can have sympathy for many people. That's... a little hard.

That's not to say I don't have sympathy for Cis-white people as a whole. Because yet again, the vast majority DIDN'T seek to overturn everything because a few of their number was subjected to that. And there are some of those who were and didn't react the same way. But those who were subjected and decided everything must be destroyed because they were slighted? Yeah, very hard to sympathize with that.
 

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You talk like if the establishment wasn't conservative...
At the time, the establishment was Democrat.
Debatable. Besides that Democrat is different to Liberal; the Democrat government was a minority one, the Houses were controlled by Republicans and blocked the former's actions whenever they had the chance. Not to mention, the private sector lobbied more from the conservative side than the liberal one.
 

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Always remember this:

Any man who is so utterly pathetic that he'd do this over a basically insignificant comment is a man who lives in a permanent state of unhappiness. He might be president, he might have all that money and all that power, but inside is a huge, gaping, black hole of need that nothing will ever be enough to fill, and it will haunt him to his death.
 

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Agema said:
Always remember this:

Any man who is so utterly pathetic that he'd do this over a basically insignificant comment is a man who lives in a permanent state of unhappiness. He might be president, he might have all that money and all that power, but inside is a huge, gaping, black hole of need that nothing will ever be enough to fill, and it will haunt him to his death.
Doesn't really make up for the damage he does to the world and the planet around him due to the inexplicable power he's been given by the masses of human garbage cheering him on.
 

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Smithnikov said:
We survived George W, we'll survive this. It'll hurt. It'll be embarrassing, but we will and I'm losing fucks by the year for anything, really. I'm already considered an illegal immigrant, a communist, a racist, a neo-nazi, and an SJW by my own country, so my bucket of fucks is just about empty.
Will we survive this? I kinda feel like he has knocked the US into a decline with we wont really be able to come back from.
 

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bluegate said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nfiyLQwXHE

For all Americans on this board, how does it feel to have a guy this insecure as a president?

It seems that no week goes by without some sort of incident or thing to report on that puts the current president or members of his administration in bad light.
He's a played out reality show cartoon. It seems a good chunk of his voters are just going to vote democrat to kick him out of office.
 

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Smithnikov said:
ObsidianJones said:
And a good deal of us will hoot and holler in absolute triumph when a man sets forth actions to bring the very Earth down around our ears because he says "This will make those whiny babies sad".
There's a reason for that sad state, however. Those "whiny babies" worked day and night to slag on people for their "microaggressions", called for death to "cis white scum", and shut down discourse left and right with even regular unpolitical people because they were 'racist' for whatever that means anymore. When you call people scum just for the sin of being born white or not being upper class urban elite, or not the correct minority, PEOPLE TEND TO GET PRETTY IRRATIONAL ABOUT IT, and they got irrational enough to put the first blowhard who came along and said they weren't guilty of the original sin of being white and 'privledged'. Trump just happened to be the one who won the pony.

Liberals fucked up. WE shit the bed and Trump's lunacy is the harvest we've sewn. It shouldn't have been this way, but it'll keep being this way until our optics and the establishment get it's fucking head out of it's ass!
Gonna have to stop you right there. Here's the funny thing about Trump. His ideas aren't new to the Republican body. He has not introduced any new concepts. Fuck immigrants, fuck women, fuck the LGBT community, fuck Muslims, the works? Standard policy for the GOP.

He's just not subtle about it and is bringing along with a cult of personality. And the people who voted for Trump were the same people who always went out and voted Republican. He got less votes than Romney.

Basically, people are responsible for their own actions. And I'm highly unsympathetic towards people who react to being called racist by opening for the most openly racist president that's been in the oval office in my life. Assuming that's what happened, and I doubt it. A Republican voter might tell me that's what happened, but they have a tendency to do everything possible to avoid taking responsibility, so the whole concept feels like a fairy tale to me. One called "The White cis-het-male Persecution complex, feeling like the victim for no real reason." These people have enough self-serving victim narratives carved out of pure fantasy on how everything wrong in their lives was someone else's fault, we don't need to add to it. Trump is supposed to be our own hubris because people were just that pissed about Tumblr? Do you plan on selling me a bridge in Brooklyn next?

If we're talking about the real reason Trump most likely happened. The GOP reeks of desperation to me. In a decade or so, their primary voting block is going to start dying of old age. Gen Z is the most racially diverse, openly LGBT, un-religious group in American history, and therefore represents moving away from GOP values. They're desperate to hold onto power, which is why establishment GOPers went from decrying Trump to bootlickers when he got elected.
 

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Smithnikov said:
We survived George W, we'll survive this. It'll hurt. It'll be embarrassing, but we will and I'm losing fucks by the year for anything, really. I'm already considered an illegal immigrant, a communist, a racist, a neo-nazi, and an SJW by my own country, so my bucket of fucks is just about empty.
Pretty much this. People are pretty quick to forget that the country was already a joke back when George W Bush was chosen to lead it. Trump seems to be just a reminder of what happens when you combine majority rules with such a rubbish education system
 

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Smithnikov said:
We survived George W, we'll survive this. It'll hurt. It'll be embarrassing, but we will and I'm losing fucks by the year for anything, really. I'm already considered an illegal immigrant, a communist, a racist, a neo-nazi, and an SJW by my own country, so my bucket of fucks is just about empty.
Pretty much this. People are pretty quick to forget that the country was already a joke back when George W Bush was chosen to lead it. Trump seems to be just a reminder of what happens when you combine majority rules with such a rubbish education system
Actually, Trump is an example of the abuse of minority rule. Less than half of half of American voters voted for Trump. More people voted for Hillary, but because a secret cabal of elites get to actually decide who is President, they picked the guy who appeals to White Supremacists.
 

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Smithnikov said:
We survived George W, we'll survive this. It'll hurt. It'll be embarrassing, but we will and I'm losing fucks by the year for anything, really. I'm already considered an illegal immigrant, a communist, a racist, a neo-nazi, and an SJW by my own country, so my bucket of fucks is just about empty.
A closer analogy would be comparing Trump to Reagan. Despite all that Trump has done, he has locked people up for the crime of wanting more pay. Reagan deliberately went around antagonising everyone and won. So... Trump thinks he's on a winner
 

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Less than half of half of American voters voted for Trump. More people voted for Hillary, but because a secret cabal of elites get to actually decide who is President, they picked the guy who appeals to White Supremacists.
And only about half of eligible voters actually voted. So less than a quarter of eligible American voters wanted that man to be president. And I'm not sure how many actually wanted Trump as president opposed to those who simply did not want a Democrat/Woman/Hillary as president.
 

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Doesn't really make up for the damage he does to the world and the planet around him due to the inexplicable power he's been given by the masses of human garbage cheering him on.
In many ways no, but I'm vindictive enough to take satisfaction that the squalid little prick is living a life of constant insecurity and dissatisfaction.

Of course, I'm also aware of the fact that if he weren't such a damaged human being, he wouldn't be inflicting this shit on the rest of us, but it's a bit late for him to get therapy.
 

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Agema said:
Always remember this:

Any man who is so utterly pathetic that he'd do this over a basically insignificant comment is a man who lives in a permanent state of unhappiness. He might be president, he might have all that money and all that power, but inside is a huge, gaping, black hole of need that nothing will ever be enough to fill, and it will haunt him to his death.
Which will probably be in a few years from now.

As much as that idiot loves to blather on about deserving a 3rd term(and we haven't even reached the election for a possible 2nd one yet), I doubt he'd live long enough to serve one out if somehow he did get one. He's probably a decade out from a stroke or fatal heart attack, based on how unhealthy his lifestyle is and his age. I wouldn't be surprised if the man hasn't already had a stroke and kept it out of the news.

And when that day comes when the fucker kicks off, I'll only say "Good".

Sadly, I'm sure the GOP will immediately want to sanctify him the way they did Reagan.