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Simalacrum said:
7/10 is mediocre? Is that a 10-point scale which is actually just a five-point scale because numbers 1-5 are unused?

Anyway, you can't go wrong with BioShock 2. Russ Pitts implied so in his review.
 

WiccaVamp

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Jaranja said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Jaranja said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Heavy Rain. It's going to be the most original game of the year.
Originality doesn't make a good game.

Mass Effect 2, now!
Umm...Have you seen Heavy Rain?
*Watches trailer*

Christ, that was awful. She better not be in the game with that awful voice. Maybe there's one that isn't mind-crunchingly boring.

*watches another trailer*

No, it's still not doing it for me. That music was plain awful, especially for that trailer, and serious uncanny valley issues. Maybe it was just an awful trailer. Good graphics though. It looks like I would like it as much as Indigo Prophecy, even though it wasn't that good anyway. In fact, it looks like Indigo Prophecy. Why don't they try another idea?
if you actually go see the gameplay reviews you'd know it is a new concept, the way in which you play the game is through constant and diverse choices not seen before in this context, flaws are relevent and tested,and death is always a possibility....don't base your opinion on just trailers, it doesnt work for movies i dont get why it should for games.
 

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Jaranja said:
Composer said:
Jaranja said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Jaranja said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Heavy Rain. It's going to be the most original game of the year.
Originality doesn't make a good game.

Mass Effect 2, now!
Umm...Have you seen Heavy Rain?
*Watches trailer*

Christ, that was awful. She better not be in the game with that awful voice. Maybe there's one that isn't mind-crunchingly boring.

*watches another trailer*

No, it's still not doing it for me. That music was plain awful, especially for that trailer, and serious uncanny valley issues. Maybe it was just an awful trailer. Good graphics though. It looks like I would like it as much as Indigo Prophecy, even though it wasn't that good anyway. In fact, it looks like Indigo Prophecy. Why don't they try another idea?
ahhhh i love these fights. they make me feel better about myself.
OT: id go with a game ABOUT pie.
you shouldnt skip bioshock1 because if u play 2 then decide to go play 1 ull find it lacking and that wil be no fun.oh ya, i suggest bioshock,in the dark, alone. it adds to the effect
How is me giving my opinion a fight? Think before you say something stupid.
well its not really a fight. its more like people trying to force each others games down eachothers throat.
 

Jaranja

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Composer said:
Jaranja said:
Composer said:
Jaranja said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Jaranja said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Heavy Rain. It's going to be the most original game of the year.
Originality doesn't make a good game.

Mass Effect 2, now!
Umm...Have you seen Heavy Rain?
*Watches trailer*

Christ, that was awful. She better not be in the game with that awful voice. Maybe there's one that isn't mind-crunchingly boring.

*watches another trailer*

No, it's still not doing it for me. That music was plain awful, especially for that trailer, and serious uncanny valley issues. Maybe it was just an awful trailer. Good graphics though. It looks like I would like it as much as Indigo Prophecy, even though it wasn't that good anyway. In fact, it looks like Indigo Prophecy. Why don't they try another idea?
ahhhh i love these fights. they make me feel better about myself.
OT: id go with a game ABOUT pie.
you shouldnt skip bioshock1 because if u play 2 then decide to go play 1 ull find it lacking and that wil be no fun.oh ya, i suggest bioshock,in the dark, alone. it adds to the effect
How is me giving my opinion a fight? Think before you say something stupid.
well its not really a fight. its more like people trying to force each others games down eachothers throat.
No, this is 4 people trying to force their game down my throat and me giving my opinion on a two trailers I watched. Seriously, leave me alone.
 

andrat

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Twad said:
How about not buying any, trying them out as rentals or something, and THEN deciding if they are worth buying?

Just my two cents.
I've thought of doing this, but I usually beat the game by the time I have to return the rental, so no point really.
 

Jaranja

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WiccaVamp said:
Jaranja said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Jaranja said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Heavy Rain. It's going to be the most original game of the year.
Originality doesn't make a good game.

Mass Effect 2, now!
Umm...Have you seen Heavy Rain?
*Watches trailer*

Christ, that was awful. She better not be in the game with that awful voice. Maybe there's one that isn't mind-crunchingly boring.

*watches another trailer*

No, it's still not doing it for me. That music was plain awful, especially for that trailer, and serious uncanny valley issues. Maybe it was just an awful trailer. Good graphics though. It looks like I would like it as much as Indigo Prophecy, even though it wasn't that good anyway. In fact, it looks like Indigo Prophecy. Why don't they try another idea?
if you actually go see the gameplay reviews you'd know it is a new concept, the way in which you play the game is through constant and diverse choices not seen before in this context, flaws are relevent and tested,and death is always a possibility....don't base your opinion on just trailers, it doesnt work for movies i dont get why it should for games.
Alright fine! I'll try the bloody demo. You'll be receiving PM's from me in the future.
 

Composer

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Jaranja said:
Composer said:
Jaranja said:
Composer said:
Jaranja said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Jaranja said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Heavy Rain. It's going to be the most original game of the year.
Originality doesn't make a good game.

Mass Effect 2, now!
Umm...Have you seen Heavy Rain?
*Watches trailer*

Christ, that was awful. She better not be in the game with that awful voice. Maybe there's one that isn't mind-crunchingly boring.

*watches another trailer*

No, it's still not doing it for me. That music was plain awful, especially for that trailer, and serious uncanny valley issues. Maybe it was just an awful trailer. Good graphics though. It looks like I would like it as much as Indigo Prophecy, even though it wasn't that good anyway. In fact, it looks like Indigo Prophecy. Why don't they try another idea?
ahhhh i love these fights. they make me feel better about myself.
OT: id go with a game ABOUT pie.
you shouldnt skip bioshock1 because if u play 2 then decide to go play 1 ull find it lacking and that wil be no fun.oh ya, i suggest bioshock,in the dark, alone. it adds to the effect
How is me giving my opinion a fight? Think before you say something stupid.
well its not really a fight. its more like people trying to force each others games down eachothers throat.
No, this is 4 people trying to force their game down my throat and me giving my opinion on a two trailers I watched. Seriously, leave me alone.
im not trying to get on ur nerves man, if bioshock wasnt an actual option i would have prolly said mass effect2, the only issue i have with that game is i end up with no ammo for my heavy pistol :(
 

Jaranja

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Composer said:
Jaranja said:
Composer said:
Jaranja said:
Composer said:
Jaranja said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Jaranja said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Heavy Rain. It's going to be the most original game of the year.
Originality doesn't make a good game.

Mass Effect 2, now!
Umm...Have you seen Heavy Rain?
*Watches trailer*

Christ, that was awful. She better not be in the game with that awful voice. Maybe there's one that isn't mind-crunchingly boring.

*watches another trailer*

No, it's still not doing it for me. That music was plain awful, especially for that trailer, and serious uncanny valley issues. Maybe it was just an awful trailer. Good graphics though. It looks like I would like it as much as Indigo Prophecy, even though it wasn't that good anyway. In fact, it looks like Indigo Prophecy. Why don't they try another idea?
ahhhh i love these fights. they make me feel better about myself.
OT: id go with a game ABOUT pie.
you shouldnt skip bioshock1 because if u play 2 then decide to go play 1 ull find it lacking and that wil be no fun.oh ya, i suggest bioshock,in the dark, alone. it adds to the effect
How is me giving my opinion a fight? Think before you say something stupid.
well its not really a fight. its more like people trying to force each others games down eachothers throat.
No, this is 4 people trying to force their game down my throat and me giving my opinion on a two trailers I watched. Seriously, leave me alone.
im not trying to get on ur nerves man, if bioshock wasnt an actual option i would have prolly said mass effect2, the only issue i have with that game is i end up with no ammo for my heavy pistol :(
You have other guns/powers.
 

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Jaranja said:
Composer said:
Jaranja said:
Composer said:
Jaranja said:
Composer said:
Jaranja said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Jaranja said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Heavy Rain. It's going to be the most original game of the year.
Originality doesn't make a good game.

Mass Effect 2, now!
Umm...Have you seen Heavy Rain?
*Watches trailer*

Christ, that was awful. She better not be in the game with that awful voice. Maybe there's one that isn't mind-crunchingly boring.

*watches another trailer*

No, it's still not doing it for me. That music was plain awful, especially for that trailer, and serious uncanny valley issues. Maybe it was just an awful trailer. Good graphics though. It looks like I would like it as much as Indigo Prophecy, even though it wasn't that good anyway. In fact, it looks like Indigo Prophecy. Why don't they try another idea?
ahhhh i love these fights. they make me feel better about myself.
OT: id go with a game ABOUT pie.
you shouldnt skip bioshock1 because if u play 2 then decide to go play 1 ull find it lacking and that wil be no fun.oh ya, i suggest bioshock,in the dark, alone. it adds to the effect
How is me giving my opinion a fight? Think before you say something stupid.
well its not really a fight. its more like people trying to force each others games down eachothers throat.
No, this is 4 people trying to force their game down my throat and me giving my opinion on a two trailers I watched. Seriously, leave me alone.
im not trying to get on ur nerves man, if bioshock wasnt an actual option i would have prolly said mass effect2, the only issue i have with that game is i end up with no ammo for my heavy pistol :(
You have other guns/powers.
favoritism my good man favoritism
 

Jaranja

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Composer said:
Jaranja said:
Composer said:
Jaranja said:
Composer said:
Jaranja said:
Composer said:
Jaranja said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Jaranja said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Heavy Rain. It's going to be the most original game of the year.
Originality doesn't make a good game.

Mass Effect 2, now!
Umm...Have you seen Heavy Rain?
*Watches trailer*

Christ, that was awful. She better not be in the game with that awful voice. Maybe there's one that isn't mind-crunchingly boring.

*watches another trailer*

No, it's still not doing it for me. That music was plain awful, especially for that trailer, and serious uncanny valley issues. Maybe it was just an awful trailer. Good graphics though. It looks like I would like it as much as Indigo Prophecy, even though it wasn't that good anyway. In fact, it looks like Indigo Prophecy. Why don't they try another idea?
ahhhh i love these fights. they make me feel better about myself.
OT: id go with a game ABOUT pie.
you shouldnt skip bioshock1 because if u play 2 then decide to go play 1 ull find it lacking and that wil be no fun.oh ya, i suggest bioshock,in the dark, alone. it adds to the effect
How is me giving my opinion a fight? Think before you say something stupid.
well its not really a fight. its more like people trying to force each others games down eachothers throat.
No, this is 4 people trying to force their game down my throat and me giving my opinion on a two trailers I watched. Seriously, leave me alone.
im not trying to get on ur nerves man, if bioshock wasnt an actual option i would have prolly said mass effect2, the only issue i have with that game is i end up with no ammo for my heavy pistol :(
You have other guns/powers.
favoritism my good man favoritism
I loved the powers above the guns. I'd use those powers to hell. I rarely ran out of ammo. When I did, it was with Assault Rifles (when I got them on my evil person) or Sniper Rifles (on my Neutral Infiltrator).
 

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Jaranja said:
Composer said:
Jaranja said:
Composer said:
Jaranja said:
Composer said:
Jaranja said:
Composer said:
Jaranja said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Jaranja said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
Heavy Rain. It's going to be the most original game of the year.
Originality doesn't make a good game.

Mass Effect 2, now!
Umm...Have you seen Heavy Rain?
*Watches trailer*

Christ, that was awful. She better not be in the game with that awful voice. Maybe there's one that isn't mind-crunchingly boring.

*watches another trailer*

No, it's still not doing it for me. That music was plain awful, especially for that trailer, and serious uncanny valley issues. Maybe it was just an awful trailer. Good graphics though. It looks like I would like it as much as Indigo Prophecy, even though it wasn't that good anyway. In fact, it looks like Indigo Prophecy. Why don't they try another idea?
ahhhh i love these fights. they make me feel better about myself.
OT: id go with a game ABOUT pie.
you shouldnt skip bioshock1 because if u play 2 then decide to go play 1 ull find it lacking and that wil be no fun.oh ya, i suggest bioshock,in the dark, alone. it adds to the effect
How is me giving my opinion a fight? Think before you say something stupid.
well its not really a fight. its more like people trying to force each others games down eachothers throat.
No, this is 4 people trying to force their game down my throat and me giving my opinion on a two trailers I watched. Seriously, leave me alone.
im not trying to get on ur nerves man, if bioshock wasnt an actual option i would have prolly said mass effect2, the only issue i have with that game is i end up with no ammo for my heavy pistol :(
You have other guns/powers.
favoritism my good man favoritism
I loved the powers above the guns. I'd use those powers to hell. I rarely ran out of ammo. When I did, it was with Assault Rifles (when I got them on my evil person) or Sniper Rifles (on my Neutral Infiltrator).
guess i just havent found a happy balance between guns and powers
 

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Plurralbles said:
*snip*
But that's what I mean, why put up a ton of money on a gamble?
Because if you win, you win big. Bioshock isn't exactly what I call "A unique experience", while Heavy Rain seems to be just that. The risk is greater for Heavy Rain, but so is the potential reward.

Jaranja said:
Pingieking said:
Jaranja said:
It's actually significantly different from Indigo Prophecy.
I hesitate to call the mechanics of Heavy Rain "a series of QTEs", because you have the choice of not doing them (and apparently sometimes it's better not to do them).
Oh, OK. There aren't any button-matching sequences. The games are not the same at all. I was told to watch a trailer and both were horrible, in my opinion.
There are button matching sequences, but they're mostly optional. The button matching will come up, and you make the decision whether you want to match it or not. If you do then that action occurs, if you don't the game moves on to the next button matching. In this way, you choose the direction of the game, since sometimes matching the button is actually bad.
For example, imagine a chase scene of you chasing down a criminal. A bunch of QTEs come up, and if you match it, then you catch the criminal. If you miss one, then you stumble/bump-into-something and fall behind a bit. If you miss too many, then the criminal gets away. The difference is that depending on WHEN and IF you catch the criminal, the story will differ. Maybe catching the criminal will result in your character getting killed (so it might be better to fail the QTEs). Perhaps by letting the criminal run a bit farther, you meet another person and the story becomes different from the plot you would've got if you caught him earlier.

It's this semi-QTE system that has me very interested.
 

Jaranja

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Pingieking said:
Plurralbles said:
*snip*
But that's what I mean, why put up a ton of money on a gamble?
Because if you win, you win big.

Jaranja said:
Pingieking said:
Jaranja said:
It's actually significantly different from Indigo Prophecy.
I hesitate to call the mechanics of Heavy Rain "a series of QTEs", because you have the choice of not doing them (and apparently sometimes it's better not to do them).
Oh, OK. There aren't any button-matching sequences. The games are not the same at all. I was told to watch a trailer and both were horrible, in my opinion.
There are button matching sequences, but they're mostly optional. The button matching will come up, and you make the decision whether you want to match it or not. If you do then that action occurs, if you don't the game moves on to the next button matching. In this way, you choose the direction of the game, since sometimes matching the button is actually bad.
For example, imagine a chase scene of you chasing down a criminal. A bunch of QTEs come up, and if you match it, then you catch the criminal. If you miss one, then you stumble/bump-into-something and fall behind a bit. If you miss too many, then the criminal gets away. The difference is that depending on WHEN and IF you catch the criminal, the story will differ. Maybe catching the criminal will result in your character getting killed (so it might be better to fail the QTEs). Perhaps by letting the criminal run a bit farther, you meet another person and the story becomes different from the plot you would've got if you caught him earlier.

It's this semi-QTE system that has me very interested.
That all sounds very... bland, to me. I guess we just find different things interesting. I saw a gameplay clip and it looked okay.
 

Plurralbles

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Pingieking said:
Plurralbles said:
*snip*
But that's what I mean, why put up a ton of money on a gamble?
Because if you win, you win big. Bioshock isn't exactly what I call "A unique experience", while Heavy Rain seems to be just that. The risk is greater for Heavy Rain, but so is the potential reward.

Jaranja said:
Pingieking said:
Jaranja said:
Oh, OK. There aren't any button-matching sequences. The games are not the same at all. I was told to watch a trailer and both were horrible, in my opinion.
There are button matching sequences, but they're mostly optional. The button matching will come up, and you make the decision whether you want to match it or not. If you do then that action occurs, if you don't the game moves on to the next button matching. In this way, you choose the direction of the game, since sometimes matching the button is actually bad.
For example, imagine a chase scene of you chasing down a criminal. A bunch of QTEs come up, and if you match it, then you catch the criminal. If you miss one, then you stumble/bump-into-something and fall behind a bit. If you miss too many, then the criminal gets away. The difference is that depending on WHEN and IF you catch the criminal, the story will differ. Maybe catching the criminal will result in your character getting killed (so it might be better to fail the QTEs). Perhaps by letting the criminal run a bit farther, you meet another person and the story becomes different from the plot you would've got if you caught him earlier.

It's this semi-QTE system that has me very interested.
That is an interesting mechanic, but all you get for buying it now is that you can be in the gaming discussion of today when it's a hot topic, but you're still out $40 you could have kept if you just get Bioshock 1.